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opinion on entry level cdj's
Posted on: 01.12.2011 by Chandra Lean
im looking at a pair of stanton c.324, or numark ndx 400's

any opinions on these?

i dont have pioneer money
Aron Gausin
22.12.2011
Originally Posted by no_rex4u
so... since im the OP and havent posted in awhile lol.

i found a pair of Denon s3000's at a store by my house.

they never sold them so they have had them since they shipped out. in atleast '08.

they asked if i would be interested in both for $400. any opinions on this?
I've been using Denon DN-S1200's for the past 3 years now and have loved using them. They are very well built in my opinion and feel like they will last a very long time. From my experience, I would say a lot of the gear from Denon will be reliable and exactly what you're looking for in terms of entry level gear.
Betsy Orsillo
18.12.2011
Originally Posted by no_rex4u

what is a decent price i can expect for a used set of Denon s3700's or s1200's

hmm .. for 3700s, maybe $1300 for a used set? ...
Aron Gausin
22.12.2011
Originally Posted by no_rex4u
so... since im the OP and havent posted in awhile lol.

i found a pair of Denon s3000's at a store by my house.

they never sold them so they have had them since they shipped out. in atleast '08.

they asked if i would be interested in both for $400. any opinions on this?
I've been using Denon DN-S1200's for the past 3 years now and have loved using them. They are very well built in my opinion and feel like they will last a very long time. From my experience, I would say a lot of the gear from Denon will be reliable and exactly what you're looking for in terms of entry level gear.
Chandra Lean
22.12.2011
so... since im the OP and havent posted in awhile lol.

i found a pair of Denon s3000's at a store by my house.

they never sold them so they have had them since they shipped out. in atleast '08.

they asked if i would be interested in both for $400. any opinions on this?
Alla Bluemke
22.12.2011
yes i have. I used 900s and 2000s at the clubs I DJ at. The rest all have 1000s. That being said, for my own set up I don't need all the bells and whistle. I can mix a set perfectly fine with my 400s. No issues whatsoever. I didn't want to spend 4000 dollars on just cdjs when buying it for myself. I left that to the clubs. That being said I'll eventually upgrade, but cdj 400s are excellent transition decks to wait for better decks. Everyone who has used mine love them.

2000s are great they really are, but I don't NEED 2000s to djs with all formats. where as 400s really do everything at an economical price.

The only grip I have is the screen size really besides that I don't have any issues at all. Besides gear at every club is so screwed up you have to know how to play with whatever.
Dorie Scelzo
20.12.2011
have any of you guys recommending the CDJ-400 used anything better when you weren't focused on the price difference?
Alla Bluemke
19.12.2011
I have 400s. And for the most part they are great. With that being said the most annoying thing on them is the screen being so small. It takes forever to read a track off an USB and you might get portions cut off.

Besides that I love them. They work easily as good as any other cdjs. I mean it has all the functions of any other cdjs, cd playback, mp3 playback, HID capabilities, loops, effects, etc. For mixing they really really work great. I believe people compare the jogwheels and this and that all the time, but really i'm not touching the jogs all that often when mixing, just nudging here and there to beat match, its no different then any other cdj.

That being said eventually I'd like to upgrade to 900s or 2000s cause its like have a BMW, Audi, Mercedes. 350, 400, 800, 1000s are like like mid cost cars to me, they work great do everything I need, but just not as nice as 900/2000.

Besides if I was going to spend my money on anything i'd spend it on a dope mixer. Way more important.
Jody Goman
19.12.2011
I just got a cdj-350 and a cdj-400 both for very good prices....the 400's jog wheel is noticeably better and has effects. But i really like the 300 as well...if it had effects built in and i could get them for $100-150 less than a 400 id say no question it is the move...but i will be getting another 400 shortly.
Johnetta Olewine
18.12.2011
just use your vsm like a pair of cdjs? surely it wont be much different to those shitty low end pioneers.
Janyce Henningson
18.12.2011
Whereabouts are ya

I got some Denon DNS1200's you can have cheap
Dana Ordinario
18.12.2011
I picked up a pair of Denon DN-S700 they are limited compared to the 1200/3700 but they are tough and work great. I paid less than 400$ for the pair.
Lynell Piechocinski
18.12.2011
My entry was with CDJ-200, i was way to happy with them, only reason that i sold them was that i needed money and i was moving to other country. And all I wanted was to change mixer or get effector, i had DJM-300, wanted more FX.
Betsy Orsillo
18.12.2011
Originally Posted by no_rex4u

what is a decent price i can expect for a used set of Denon s3700's or s1200's

hmm .. for 3700s, maybe $1300 for a used set? ...
Betsy Orsillo
18.12.2011
i got a pair denon 3500s back in 2008 as my first setup. they work great. you can get a used pair for $500-600.
Chandra Lean
05.12.2011
hmm.. im liking all of the input. im not Dj'ing clubs anytime soon. but i feel that just dj'ing with traktor, seems like a huge crutch. either i get Cdj's or i get a nicer controller that acts more like Cdj's but this store by my house has pretty much every current pioneer cdj, Denon Cdj's, and American Audio Radius 3000.

what is a decent price i can expect for a used set of Denon s3700's or s1200's
Denyse Waterland
05.12.2011
well when i started with cdjs i bought 2 american audio radius 1000's, both lasers broke within 4 months, got them repaired, broke less than a year later

bought 2 cdj 800 mk2 second hand about a yeah ago and they havent even skipped a beat.

its worth the money to go pioneer
Dorie Scelzo
05.12.2011
Originally Posted by Calum
it'l be worth waiting and saving.
trust me, it'll end up cheaper in the long run
What'll end up cheaper? CDJs? 'cuz I lost more on my CDJ-200s (when I eventually managed to sell them after they collected dust for about 2 years) than I did on the rest of my gear combined.
Denyse Waterland
05.12.2011
it'l be worth waiting and saving.
trust me, it'll end up cheaper in the long run
Audrey Pinda
05.12.2011
It really comes down to what you can afford. And also holding yourself to a level of quality, and not letting yourself getting lured in by something "cheap and now".

Patience will save you a lot of money in the long run.

I believe the CDJ-400's are hands down the best deal for the money, if you can find them. As they aren't sold new anymore (unless you find a supplier with them still), they are getting harder to find.

CDJ's are the expensive bitch at the party. We've just all have to come to terms with it. I'd love to own a pair, but the cost relative to other forms of control is just so damned high. :P

If you were making a full switch to CDJ's, and are not planning on using them with software, then the CDJ-800 MK2 is also another solid option. It's about the same price on the market as the CDJ-400, but doesn't have the USB/HID support that you would use with DVS or whatever.

(Generally I've seen CDJ-400's and CDJ-800 MK2's going for about $400 each around here. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less, but that seems the market value IMO)

I know some people swear by the Denon's. But honestly to me, they are always going to be second best. I look at what people are using in the clubs, and go from there accordingly. I've never seen a Denon install in a club/bar. They might be solid decks, but there really is something to be said for learning on what you hope to play on (using other's gear ) in the future.

I wouldn't spend my money on anything less than those decks. I want to get a pair of CDJ's in the future myself (few years down the line honestly) and I really believe if you go the CDJ route, you might as well go that way fully. Get rid of the laptop in your set (only use it for burning CD's from Mp3 files) and just go like that.

If you're just going to be using software anyhow, and already have a controller, I just don't see that investing in a low-end pair of CDJ's is going to be a worthwhile endeavor.

"If you're going to do something, do it right the first time"
Odis Stirewalt
05.12.2011
i would suggest cdj100, cdj400 or some denons.

DON'T BUY AN CDJ200 (i have done this because i thought the 0.02% pitch range and the ability to show track titles will be good) but the jogwheels are SO BAD that i enjoy the usage of the cdj100 more even their pitchfader has only a resolution of 0.1%

if i were in charge of buying a gear for a newcomer, i would buy him two cdj400 or cdj350 and an xone22 with a pair of sennheiser hd25 ^^
Sherman Rauh
05.12.2011
+1 for used cdj400/800mk2 or an S4.
Hipolito Scionti
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by no_rex4u
i own a VMS4, im just trying to get in the CDJ dj'ing environment.
Hmmm ok... not sure why you'd want to get into entry level cdj though. platters than control digital files... not a lot in it

Pioneer gear i sort of understand but cheap cdjs will add nothing to your life imo
Chandra Lean
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Any reason not to look at controllers btw?

Like an s2/s4?
i own a VMS4, im just trying to get in the CDJ dj'ing environment.
Dorie Scelzo
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Steeevo
and also you are going off the subject he hasnt got pioneer money??? so you suggest go look at a pioneer 2000 haha.
I didn't suggest he look at it, I brought it up as an example of what CDJs could be and the reason why I don't own any.
Hipolito Scionti
03.12.2011
Any reason not to look at controllers btw?

Like an s2/s4?
Keli Muennink
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by mostapha
All cheap CDJs suck.
I'd say that it's worth sacrificing features for quality
thats is true thats why i got an xone 22 its only 2 channel and i could have got a 4 channel with effects and kills but the xone is solid and sounds amazing.

and also you are going off the subject he hasnt got pioneer money??? so you suggest go look at a pioneer 2000 haha.
Raelene Paltz
02.12.2011
Rein it in people. The OP asked for opinions on CDJ's on a budget. I thought I might have been pushing it by recommending the CDJ 100/200.
Then recommendations for 400's and even CDJ2000's-the most expensive deck Pioneer sell, a pair of which will probably set you back
Dorie Scelzo
01.12.2011
All cheap CDJs suck. There's no question in my mind about that. The problem with me giving recommendations is that I believe "cheap" encompasses everything except the CDJ-2000.

The reason I don't own CDJ-2000s is because there's nothing out there that isn't so cheap it's annoying or really expensive.

It's about price, IMHO. If you can find a pair that isn't overpriced, they'll be fine.

My CDJ-200s were the biggest gear mistake I've made, hands down. They were not worth $400 each new, especially when you consider that they were basically worthless when I sold them. Unfortunately, I feel that way about most CDJs.

Those stantons are $300/each on amazon. I thin that's a little high for them, but it's not too terrible. Just be aware that it'll be a sunk cost. The fact that Guitar Center is selling used ones for $250ish does not mean that you'll get anywhere near that when you're ready to sell. Whatever you're going to spend, if it's not a high-end Pioneer deck, expect to throw them away when up upgrade unless you just get lucky.

My recommendation is to go to a Guitar Center (or something like it) and at least feel whatever they have, starting with the CDJ-2000. Then go to one of the cheapest ones they have. You should feel a difference, but you may not. If you don't, that's cool
Julietta Mistretta
01.12.2011
+1 for 400s as starter gear. Added bonus of running USB connect to your computer for proper Traktor control / midi keybinds.
Marguerite Truka
01.12.2011
I used to have the stanton c324s and they where pretty good small screen so less feedback however are realiable and load cds pretty quickly
Chandra Lean
02.12.2011
right now im using my VMS4, and i keep debating if i want to go to CDj's or not
Romelia Stankard
02.12.2011
I wouldn't even go with CDJ-100s or 200s, they are annoying. Look on craigslist for deals on 800s, 400s, or some of the denon stuff.
Raelene Paltz
02.12.2011
I'd have to agree with Xonetacular, I did the same thing with turntables and ended up frustrated and spent more money by buying two sets of decks before I went for 1200's.

I see pairs of CDJ100's on the bay going for about
Romelia Stankard
01.12.2011
Originally Posted by no_rex4u
im looking at a pair of stanton c.324, or numark ndx 400's

any opinions on these?

i dont have pioneer money
Don't waste your money IMO. Cheap CDJs are pretty worthless in my experience. I would look around for some used deals on pioneer 400s, 800s or denon CDJs. Anything other than pioneer or denon is a waste of money and will just be a source of frustration.
Brunilda Kora
01.12.2011
For entry level DJ's, entry level gear is FINE.

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