FX Units

FX Units
Posted on: 18.02.2012 by Carlotta Fabick
Hey guys,

I've got a Xone 92 and CDJ 900s and I've been looking for an effects unit to add to my set up without having to add a laptop + traktor. I found the Pioneer EFX-1000 but I'm not a fan of how Pioneer's effects sound. I prefer the effects to sound more subtle, like in the Xone DB2/4. Is there anything else other the the EFX-500/1000 that could be used as an effects unit? Haven't had luck finding anything. Would be nice if Allen & Heath would make something like a revised Xone 2D that used their iLive studio effects just like their new mixers....

Thanks
Lindy Jonker
28.02.2012
Originally Posted by oneapemob
For the price of two of these plus the case/power supply you could buy a xone db4
Except I prefer a plain analog mixer, versus a digital mixer that's had gummy bears vomitted all over it.



Originally Posted by dskreet
Dear Wife...
Yes, I do believe mine would consider filing for divorce, too.



Originally Posted by dskreet
I have a Rane Empath Rotary
Yah dude. Had seen it on DJF. Very classy.

I actually bought the Empath as well, for a bit of variety (no satisfaction mixing droning techno, hip-hop or drum'n'bass on a rotary).

Once I move I might start a setup thread. In the meantime:





Originally Posted by photojojo
I believe the quad is your best bet though.
But for the fact that it's only got a single input - I'm looking for independant control on each channel (and no, FlexFX won't achieve what I'm after) - and I'd be paying for junk I wouldn't use (all my sound work is done in-the-box).

Cheers for the suggestion, though.
Sherry Nyblom
25.02.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
get a windows 7 pad running ableton, get a 2 in 2 out soundcard and make yourself an effect bus. a small faderfox or similar and the djtt ableton knob mapper thing

I have a viewsonic viewpad, never run ableton off it but vst's work fine through vdj so it shouldnt be too much of an issue. you could also try to find a smaller 7 inch netbook close the lid and hide it, but not sure that would handle a lot of vst's or if 1.66ghz 2gb ram ones exist.
After buying Denon DN-X1100 I got this, what seems to be solid fx loop, and would like to put it in use if possible but without buying some expensive external fx unit.

Is there a way for me to use some software effect into mixer, if so woudl I need another laptop or I can use same one I use for serato ?

Also what else I need, another sound card I suppose to feed it into fx loop ?
Roxie Seldal
25.02.2012
Originally Posted by Cybertrash
Smexy! How do you like it? Does it scratch well, and how does the VU meter work?
I love it, Great Sound, Solid Mixer. VU has the Main out put, Or your cue track.
The Fader is smooth, smother than my TTM 56. Excellent mixer these Empaths
Evelyn Navarijo
24.02.2012
Originally Posted by dskreet
^ I have a Rane Empath Rotary, btw
Smexy! How do you like it? Does it scratch well, and how does the VU meter work?
Roxie Seldal
24.02.2012
Originally Posted by RobotNinja
I had a KP3, don't get it. Most of the effects sound pretty terrible, I only used a couple of em and after a few months decided to just sell it.

The EXF1000 is definitely the best unless your gonna go the ableton/traktor route.
Had a KP1(?) hated it, had a EFX 1000 and loved it!!!!!! Easy, to use, great sounds... sold it :eek: for 1 3rd Technic 1200 and to help on the Rane Rotary
Roxie Seldal
24.02.2012
Originally Posted by Johbremat
Looking at one of these for each channel of my Empath:

http://moogmusic.com/products/500-se...-ladder-filter

What!!!!!! I soooo want!!!

Dear Wife,

I Love You, and have so since day one.
When you met me you knew...., no, not drugs, no I'm not a womanizer, I have never cheated.... You knew.... I love Vinyl Records and have a Knob Fetish.
The Debit Card has a $2700 Moog Charge,you knew this from the beginning, "through good times and bad", This is a good time for me, but my gut tells me this might be a Bad time for you.

Loving you always,
-Dskreet
Glennis Bischoff
22.02.2012
Originally Posted by Johbremat
my thoughts exactly.
Roxie Seldal
29.02.2012
^ Sick Setup
Lindy Jonker
28.02.2012
Originally Posted by oneapemob
For the price of two of these plus the case/power supply you could buy a xone db4
Except I prefer a plain analog mixer, versus a digital mixer that's had gummy bears vomitted all over it.



Originally Posted by dskreet
Dear Wife...
Yes, I do believe mine would consider filing for divorce, too.



Originally Posted by dskreet
I have a Rane Empath Rotary
Yah dude. Had seen it on DJF. Very classy.

I actually bought the Empath as well, for a bit of variety (no satisfaction mixing droning techno, hip-hop or drum'n'bass on a rotary).

Once I move I might start a setup thread. In the meantime:





Originally Posted by photojojo
I believe the quad is your best bet though.
But for the fact that it's only got a single input - I'm looking for independant control on each channel (and no, FlexFX won't achieve what I'm after) - and I'd be paying for junk I wouldn't use (all my sound work is done in-the-box).

Cheers for the suggestion, though.
Armando Chrystal
27.02.2012
BOSS DD-7 (Delay Pedal) you see many big DJs using this bad boy
Leeanna Ayla
27.02.2012


http://www.moogmusic.com/products/ph...atty#specs-tab

I believe the quad is your best bet though. There's some decent youtube videos of it working.
Sherry Nyblom
25.02.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
get a windows 7 pad running ableton, get a 2 in 2 out soundcard and make yourself an effect bus. a small faderfox or similar and the djtt ableton knob mapper thing

I have a viewsonic viewpad, never run ableton off it but vst's work fine through vdj so it shouldnt be too much of an issue. you could also try to find a smaller 7 inch netbook close the lid and hide it, but not sure that would handle a lot of vst's or if 1.66ghz 2gb ram ones exist.
After buying Denon DN-X1100 I got this, what seems to be solid fx loop, and would like to put it in use if possible but without buying some expensive external fx unit.

Is there a way for me to use some software effect into mixer, if so woudl I need another laptop or I can use same one I use for serato ?

Also what else I need, another sound card I suppose to feed it into fx loop ?
Roxie Seldal
25.02.2012
Originally Posted by Cybertrash
Smexy! How do you like it? Does it scratch well, and how does the VU meter work?
I love it, Great Sound, Solid Mixer. VU has the Main out put, Or your cue track.
The Fader is smooth, smother than my TTM 56. Excellent mixer these Empaths
Evelyn Navarijo
24.02.2012
Originally Posted by dskreet
^ I have a Rane Empath Rotary, btw
Smexy! How do you like it? Does it scratch well, and how does the VU meter work?
Roxie Seldal
24.02.2012
Originally Posted by RobotNinja
I had a KP3, don't get it. Most of the effects sound pretty terrible, I only used a couple of em and after a few months decided to just sell it.

The EXF1000 is definitely the best unless your gonna go the ableton/traktor route.
Had a KP1(?) hated it, had a EFX 1000 and loved it!!!!!! Easy, to use, great sounds... sold it :eek: for 1 3rd Technic 1200 and to help on the Rane Rotary
Larraine Hannum
24.02.2012
I had a KP3, don't get it. Most of the effects sound pretty terrible, I only used a couple of em and after a few months decided to just sell it.

The EXF1000 is definitely the best unless your gonna go the ableton/traktor route.
Roxie Seldal
24.02.2012
^ I have a Rane Empath Rotary, btw

Roxie Seldal
24.02.2012
Originally Posted by Johbremat
Looking at one of these for each channel of my Empath:

http://moogmusic.com/products/500-se...-ladder-filter

What!!!!!! I soooo want!!!

Dear Wife,

I Love You, and have so since day one.
When you met me you knew...., no, not drugs, no I'm not a womanizer, I have never cheated.... You knew.... I love Vinyl Records and have a Knob Fetish.
The Debit Card has a $2700 Moog Charge,you knew this from the beginning, "through good times and bad", This is a good time for me, but my gut tells me this might be a Bad time for you.

Loving you always,
-Dskreet
Glennis Bischoff
22.02.2012
Originally Posted by Johbremat
my thoughts exactly.
Carlotta Fabick
19.02.2012
Ya, netbooks like that are still being made. I'll check it out at work in the next few days and see if I can get them to handle vsts
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
19.02.2012
get a windows 7 pad running ableton, get a 2 in 2 out soundcard and make yourself an effect bus. a small faderfox or similar and the djtt ableton knob mapper thing

I have a viewsonic viewpad, never run ableton off it but vst's work fine through vdj so it shouldnt be too much of an issue. you could also try to find a smaller 7 inch netbook close the lid and hide it, but not sure that would handle a lot of vst's or if 1.66ghz 2gb ram ones exist.
Carlotta Fabick
20.02.2012
Originally Posted by ryansupak
In my opinion the EFX-1000 is hands-down the best live effects processor ever made. But, like you, I don't want the effects to stand out. I control the triggering of my effects by using the Wet/Dry knob instead of switches, etc... This allows me to make them as subtle as I want. Also, the effects are surprisingly deep and nuanced even though they have very few parameters.
Don't know if I could justify spending that much on an effects unit that's so old. You'd believe that the price would've dropped after being on the market since '05

Originally Posted by Johbremat
Not a fan of how it sounds but I've stumbled upon the Kaoss Pad Quad. Anyone have experience with it?
Bertie Metro
19.02.2012
Well it certainly looks good, and it must certainly sounds good, but this is a "500" modular serie type of processor, that means you would have to buy much more than just one of these to get it to work, you need a power section and usually a case for it. For the price of two of these plus the case/power supply you could buy a xone db4
Evelyn Navarijo
19.02.2012
Originally Posted by Johbremat
Looking at one of these for each channel of my Empath:

http://moogmusic.com/products/500-se...-ladder-filter
I like the look of that, a bit pricey though.
Lindy Jonker
19.02.2012
Looking at one of these for each channel of my Empath:

http://moogmusic.com/products/500-se...-ladder-filter

Lindy Jonker
19.02.2012
http://www.korg.com/KP3

Romelia Stankard
19.02.2012
^that's cool didn't know about that
Dorie Scelzo
19.02.2012
A&H made a filter unit:



I don't know if they still sell it, and it's expensive. But it seems like the world kind of ignored effects like that. Kaoss pads and the EFX-1000 are about the limit at this point, AFAIK.

When Electrix were still around, they made some rack stuff that was supposed to be pretty good. And there are studio-oriented reverb and delay units. Plus, some guitar effects come in stereo packages
Evelyn Navarijo
18.02.2012
I've been believeing about this as well, I'd love to have a couple of analog filters in a box beside my mixer.
Joy Ringer
18.02.2012
I've tried pretty much all effects units, from vintage stuff like a Space Echo and an Eventide Harmonizer to all the newest stuff, including a dedicated laptop running Ableton.

In my opinion the EFX-1000 is hands-down the best live effects processor ever made. But, like you, I don't want the effects to stand out. I control the triggering of my effects by using the Wet/Dry knob instead of switches, etc... This allows me to make them as subtle as I want. Also, the effects are surprisingly deep and nuanced even though they have very few parameters.

hth,
rs

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