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Let's talk about replacing Technics RCAs, which cables to use? monoprice are no good Posted on: 03.01.2012 by Romelia Stankard I used to buy all of my cables from monoprice and while a lot of their stuff is good I am not satisfied with their premium RCA cables. They are just too stiff and the wires are too thick that it makes them difficult attach to technics and zip tie to the board and you have to abandon the plastic clamping plate which usually secures the wires to the tone arm housing (anyone who has replaced cables on 1200s knows what I'm talking about). The connectors are also too bulky like monster cables and don't fit properly on soundcards like the Audio 8 with recessed RCA jacks.So I am looking for quality RCA cables that are relatively cheap and have flexible wire that isn't overly huge with some nice connectors. I'm probably looking for 8'-12' to chop in half and have two cables for each turntable (I have 7 total I need to do now and plan on doing more in the future so I want to stock up). I know i can't beat $4 from monoprice but under $10 would be nice for something a lot better. I also don't feel like making cables, not worth the hassle here. The key is finding cables with wires that aren't too thick so they can be clamped with the technics plate. | |
| Dj LsEx 14.01.2012 | Bought a used deck (1210 mk2) a couple of years ago. At the time I was in a huge rush to change the stepped-on cable out (don't remember why) and grabbed a 6' Radio Shack piece for it. It's the newer style with the fat, eye-shaped barrels. They fit NI hardware just fine, but the insulation is on the stiff side. They coil up nice once you give them a memory for the shape, but I hardly take that particular turntable anywhere anymore. They're sturdy enough for me to be confident in them, but if I could do it again I'd have slapped on Neutrik connectors. Neutrik is a habit I picked up while trying to be as cool as my pro sound friends at the local university theatre. Good stuff. |
| Lilliana Perris 12.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
They almost destroyed my Audio 4's ports. Its the split pin thing....take a look at em. The ones I had, had these lil things on the side to keep them in place. Load of shit. Its for LARGE AMPS and shit. Not soundcards. I cut them off and put Amphenols on. The Amphenol and Neutrik are the exact same size in the front. They work a TREAT! I have not tried them personally, but this is what my research showed. |
| Osvaldo Newhall 11.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 10.01.2012 | I can't tell if you're just assuming that or you have tried them. These definitely don't fit and I don't see the neutriks being much better but who knows... |
| Lilliana Perris 10.01.2012 | I recon they should fit perfectly. |
| Romelia Stankard 10.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
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| Lilliana Perris 10.01.2012 | Yes they do! if you can't get hold of em, try the Amphenol. |
| Romelia Stankard 10.01.2012 | Anyone know if those neutrik connectors fit the NI soundcards? |
| Romelia Stankard 10.01.2012 | Probably because they are the exact replacement I am eyeing those heft ebay ones they look perfect but way expensive and I could only use them for my personal decks |
| Brendan Kerkvliet 10.01.2012 | Let me know what you end up with. I believe my right channel is out. I'm going to end up having to replace it. Here's a question though, aren't these just regular rca cables? http://www.turntablelab.com/dj_equip...187/83687.html Why so much? Because they're official Technics parts? |
| Romelia Stankard 09.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Flash101uk
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| Romelia Stankard 09.01.2012 | Hmm I still need to order cables. I believe really almost all aftermarket cables will be too thick so I'm probably going to buy a big long RCA cable similar to stock technics to chop up and put decent connectors on. Even Hosa cables look way too thick. A few of the 1200s I grabbed have ghetto rca replacement jobs and they ditched the clamp plate and it feels like you could just rip the cables off the board. i'm going to have to order some of those clamps. |
| Corrin Penney 04.01.2012 | Excellent thread, ive been meaning to do this for a while. But like the rest of you, its difficult to find decent quality components that you know will do the job right. I have spied this guy on ebay selling some nice cabling: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1604686954...84.m1423.l2649 Still a bit dear in my eyes, but they look the business! |
| Tashia Mcdunn 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by jimbrowski00
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| Tashia Mcdunn 03.01.2012 | Xone, wouldnt a single xlr style cable fit under the bracket though? Or is it tighter than that? |
| Yong Aptekar 03.01.2012 | Those Belkin ones will work, I had similar cables in my audio 6, but I ended up making shorter ones to cut down on the mess. I put up a thread about making cables, check it out, you may as well make some if you are going to chop a chord anyways. The connectors that I used are the same as those ones on amazon ^. www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=41354 |
| Romelia Stankard 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by jimbrowski00
I believe the issue with most wires is getting them to fit in this piece of plastic: |
| Tashia Mcdunn 03.01.2012 | Guys, Is there a reason not to use a 4 conductor cable like the one below: http://www.fullcompass.com/product/317395.html that should fit under the clamp no problem. Then splice in two short lengths of cable for your final plugs. Look at the cables this guy made up for his custom cases: [ame]http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w234/Soulsonica/TT_case_mod_4.jpg[/ame] He goes from XLR to a pair of RCA's... why not do something like this but soldered straight to the turntable? |
| Osvaldo Newhall 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by deevey
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| Rolanda Clodfelder 03.01.2012 | Yeah the Mk3's never made it to the Euro market for years. PM'd you with my number, I'm in Eastwood, gimme a tinkle |
| Osvaldo Newhall 04.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by deevey
The MK3D another "Japanese market only" was released in 1997 and the US counterpart, M3D was released in 1999. By the way, where in Manila are you residing? I'm from Manila. Send me your local mobile number via PM. Let's catch up. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 03.01.2012 | Huh ? the 1200 mk4 was released in 96' in Japan well after Vestax or Kam or virtually every other DJ turntable manufacturer (Numark didn't do turntables yet or Denon). It only took them 19 years and 3 revisions to finally get it right though :P I was selling Vestax's PDT-5000's back in '95 at the height of the turntable boom. Mk3 was never even available until around '99 and even then really limited with the Mk2 being the regular sellers. Back OT ... I just noticed the cables I'd talked about may not fit in a NI box :-S |
| Osvaldo Newhall 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by deevey
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| Rolanda Clodfelder 03.01.2012 | I have 2 sets of the shorted version of these for my setup (but got them for about $3 per pair for 1.5m) they are designed for car audio, but tick all the boxes nicely. 1. Flexible - kinda translucent / clear rubbery plastic and round really 2x2 pair except the ends where they split. 2. Tight connection to mixer. 3. durable. 4. Comes with grounding cable (I can't find the one with the ground on amazon, I picked them up locally). 5. Well shielded (always a good thing). 6. Don't cost an arm and a leg. 8. can be soldered easily. 9. lots of lengths (I got the 1.5m). [ame="http://www.amazon.com/LINK-CL6Z-DOUBLE-SHIELDED-COMPETITION/dp/B000QHBIAS/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325602128&s r=1-12"]Amazon.com: DB LINK CL6Z DOUBLE SHIELDED COMPETITION SERIES RCA (6 FT): Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31Tyt-79rAL.@@AMEPARAM@@31Tyt-79rAL[/ame] I used to put Neutrik's on everything, but wouldn't bother doing it until the original's were almost broken / fell off / ripped out / stood on etc ... Its a shame technics didn't take a leaf from Vestax's book and add an RCA faceplate to the damn things. |
| Romelia Stankard 03.01.2012 | Any suggestions on similar thickness wires that have the pair of strands joined together like normal RCAs? |
| Osvaldo Newhall 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJKeyWee
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| Jacque Divinity 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Lisa Lochotzki 03.01.2012 | We also use Neutrik connector as replacement one. Like someone says Hosa do decent and fairly priced cables. Check out your local Pro-Audio store, they have it for sure. Unless you're going to make a fixed installation, stay away of those aluminum foil alike shielded cable like posted above, use braided type instead. they last forever. |
| Osvaldo Newhall 03.01.2012 | You can buy online. Check this. http://www.audiogear.com/Neutrik-RCA-Plugs.html http://www.csedistributors.com/acata...ata-Cable.html Here's where I get mine locally: http://philippines.rs-online.com/web/ You can also order from them and items will be shipped to you. |
| Romelia Stankard 03.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by Nicadraus
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| Osvaldo Newhall 03.01.2012 | Here's what I use: Neutrik RCA connector plugs: and a pair of 1.5m Belden data cables (2nd row): You don't need to use those fancy monster cables. Waste of money. |
| Tillie Sliman 03.01.2012 | I was wondering this myself, I'll add anything to the thread that I believe may work. I'm planning on doing a massive overall to my tables with new leds grounded cables and new pitch faders, possibly powdercoating them as well. |
| Romelia Stankard 02.01.2012 | http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...ource=googleps similar cables as above but $1.98 a piece so I could just use one per table. Only difference is these don't have the red and black on the connector it looks like it is a sheath on the wire. They still look coax and thick though- I'm going to keep looking. |
| Romelia Stankard 02.01.2012 | Hmm these look perfect and look a lot like the old style radioshack ones: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N7HT4K/ref=sc_pgp__m_A318KZKAVS7VOQ_4?ie=UTF8&m=A318KZKAV S7VOQ&n=&s=&v=glance"]Amazon.com: RCA AG44 Deluxe Gold Plated Stereo Audio Cable (6 Feet): Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GChZRgcXL.@@AMEPARAM@@51GChZRgcXL[/ame] Now I just wish I could find the same ones longer than 6' so I can cut one in half and use it for two TTs. |
| Wei Lebeaux 02.01.2012 | Also try Hosa rcas. I have them on one of My 12s and they fit the audio 4 well. Plus they arent coax style... |
| Romelia Stankard 02.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by jsa83
Hmm, the connector look to be too bulky and chunky like the monoprice ones. See those don't work on the native instruments soundcards that have recessed jacks in the soundcard housing since it can only grip the end. |
| Romelia Stankard 02.01.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmwnutfrombirth
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| Wei Lebeaux 02.01.2012 | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Radio-Shack-...item1c21263e00 They make this in a 6ft version. It is exactly what you want. The cable is stiff but movable, and the connectors are ARTWORK; perfectly sized for my audio 4 while being of the highest quality. I believe they'd make a great replacement cable.... |
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