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what are you going to buy the S4 or VMS4? Posted on: 11.09.2010 by Jesusa Winders I want to know what are you guys are going to buy and why to make a more solid decision
Charleen Duesenberg 14.09.2010	Originally Posted by BentoSan Err, thats way off topic but, no you dont need to compress it - in fact thats a bad idea. Yes when it goes over the 0db mark Ableton starts applying gain to the track. Thank you..very much makes me clear.....How dump of me I always put a limiter + Compressor in front of every Track ...
Xavier Emanuels 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by canon1nd mr.Bento Just want to ask you one question When I put a song(std song,full track,original track) in Live Clipslot session view Do I need to put a Compressor device in that Track..... and Volume fader in track(eg. 1-audio,2-audio) the fader level that over 0 db (0.1-6db) Do Live gain up that audio clip signal..... Thank you... Err, thats way off topic but, no you dont need to compress it - in fact thats a bad idea. Yes when it goes over the 0db mark Ableton starts applying gain to the track.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by BentoSan S4 will eat the AH 4 deck midi mixer for breckfast Originally Posted by BentoSan are you talking to me ? if so your confusing me :\ All the details(well 95% of anwyay) on the AH xone 4, VMS4 and S4 are already out.. Erm... yeah... you mention the "AH 4 Deck Midi Mixer"... is that what you believe the A&H DB4 is, a midi mixer? Or do you mean something else by A&H..? I havent seen any info on the DB4 other than whats been discussed on here. Ive seen all there is on S4 and VMS4.
Leeanna Ayla 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by shomili whats this? is it a custom build? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Dn1LR9LRY http://djranking s.com/community /showthr...ight=4midiloop
Terresa Ranganathan 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by dj Ovation It looks that this winter is going to be the battle of controllers and now appear a new contender the Denon 6000 i hope they have the demo units in guitar center so i can play with all of them first. Yes, you will find the Denon MC6000 in GC's for a test run, thanks.
Leeanna Ayla 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos i believe its the A&H version of the X1600 or Rane 68 etc Me to, they already have a four deck midi controller.
Xavier Emanuels 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos is that what you reckon it is mate. 4 deck midi mixer, do you have the low-down. Thats what i believe it is. I dont believe its a controller. i believe its the A&H version of the X1600 or Rane 68 etc are you talking to me ? if so your confusing me :\ All the details(well 95% of anwyay) on the AH xone 4, VMS4 and S4 are already out..
Jacquiline Dua 12.09.2010	Originally Posted by JesterNZDJ Its mains powered yeah, as you can use it as a normal mixer. But regarding the power type... like for example Pioneer is fixed to the country it is sold in. You have to have a transformer to convert the power. Most allen and heath all you need is the lead switched and its good to go(same with laptop power supplies) Im moving to australia begining of next year for work.. and would like to possibly get one before coming over...Alot depends on if the DB4 is a controller or mixer... then I need to decide between the xone dx or the S4. I do like to scratch samples into fx and so forth.. so the S4 is a bit closer to what I want atleast with 4 decks.
Charleen Duesenberg 14.09.2010	Originally Posted by BentoSan Err, thats way off topic but, no you dont need to compress it - in fact thats a bad idea. Yes when it goes over the 0db mark Ableton starts applying gain to the track. Thank you..very much makes me clear.....How dump of me I always put a limiter + Compressor in front of every Track ...
Xavier Emanuels 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by canon1nd mr.Bento Just want to ask you one question When I put a song(std song,full track,original track) in Live Clipslot session view Do I need to put a Compressor device in that Track..... and Volume fader in track(eg. 1-audio,2-audio) the fader level that over 0 db (0.1-6db) Do Live gain up that audio clip signal..... Thank you... Err, thats way off topic but, no you dont need to compress it - in fact thats a bad idea. Yes when it goes over the 0db mark Ableton starts applying gain to the track.
Xavier Emanuels 13.09.2010	I thought the guy was getting confused and talking about the Xone DX I have no idea what the DB4 is all about personally
nayit ruiz jaramillo 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by BentoSan S4 will eat the AH 4 deck midi mixer for breckfast Originally Posted by BentoSan are you talking to me ? if so your confusing me :\ All the details(well 95% of anwyay) on the AH xone 4, VMS4 and S4 are already out.. Erm... yeah... you mention the "AH 4 Deck Midi Mixer"... is that what you believe the A&H DB4 is, a midi mixer? Or do you mean something else by A&H..? I havent seen any info on the DB4 other than whats been discussed on here. Ive seen all there is on S4 and VMS4.
Leeanna Ayla 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by shomili whats this? is it a custom build? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Dn1LR9LRY http://djranking s.com/community /showthr...ight=4midiloop
Freeman Ciezki 13.09.2010	whats this? is it a custom build? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Dn1LR9LRY
Terresa Ranganathan 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by dj Ovation It looks that this winter is going to be the battle of controllers and now appear a new contender the Denon 6000 i hope they have the demo units in guitar center so i can play with all of them first. Yes, you will find the Denon MC6000 in GC's for a test run, thanks.
Charleen Duesenberg 13.09.2010	mr.Bento Just want to ask you one question When I put a song(std song,full track,original track) in Live Clipslot session view Do I need to put a Compressor device in that Track..... and Volume fader in track(eg. 1-audio,2-audio) the fader level that over 0 db (0.1-6db) Do Live gain up that audio clip signal..... Thank you...
Charleen Duesenberg 13.09.2010	How can I get pre-order of S4 USD is got Depreciation right now may I have pre-Order links plsz.. Thank you I don't visit this community bout 1 week and I saw a bad new at first click...A&H will release new device WTF!!! Did they care about customer feeling .... ??????
Xavier Emanuels 13.09.2010	Oh the db4 lolz, i thought that guy was talking about the one they already have out
Leeanna Ayla 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos i believe its the A&H version of the X1600 or Rane 68 etc Me to, they already have a four deck midi controller.
Xavier Emanuels 13.09.2010	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos is that what you reckon it is mate. 4 deck midi mixer, do you have the low-down. Thats what i believe it is. I dont believe its a controller. i believe its the A&H version of the X1600 or Rane 68 etc are you talking to me ? if so your confusing me :\ All the details(well 95% of anwyay) on the AH xone 4, VMS4 and S4 are already out..
nayit ruiz jaramillo 13.09.2010	is that what you reckon it is mate. 4 deck midi mixer, do you have the low-down. Thats what i believe it is. I dont believe its a controller. i believe its the A&H version of the X1600 or Rane 68 etc
Xavier Emanuels 13.09.2010	S4 will eat the AH 4 deck midi mixer for breckfast
Jacqulyn Shoemo 13.09.2010	S4, but I'd like to get hands on with it first. I've almost pre-ordered it 2x, but until I can touch it I don't want to commit.
Jacquiline Dua 12.09.2010	Originally Posted by JesterNZDJ Its mains powered yeah, as you can use it as a normal mixer. But regarding the power type... like for example Pioneer is fixed to the country it is sold in. You have to have a transformer to convert the power. Most allen and heath all you need is the lead switched and its good to go(same with laptop power supplies) Im moving to australia begining of next year for work.. and would like to possibly get one before coming over...Alot depends on if the DB4 is a controller or mixer... then I need to decide between the xone dx or the S4. I do like to scratch samples into fx and so forth.. so the S4 is a bit closer to what I want atleast with 4 decks.
Latoria Kavulich 12.09.2010	Its mains powered yeah, as you can use it as a normal mixer.
Jacquiline Dua 12.09.2010	One thing Im curious about... is the power for the S4. USB powered? or Will we need an adapter and if that is the case will it be mixed voltage for 120-240v? Says nothing on the website regarding this.
Jesusa Winders 12.09.2010	It looks that this winter is going to be the battle of controllers and now appear a new contender the Denon 6000 i hope they have the demo units in guitar center so i can play with all of them first.
gabriel ortiz 12.09.2010	Originally Posted by DJMilk3y s4 and two technics:P +1
nayit ruiz jaramillo 12.09.2010	Originally Posted by MartinK Guys, as someone who is dithering over which controller to buy, does this mean were all dicthing the Vestax? No never... I have used my VCI 100 for 2 years (came late to it) for 3 or 4 nites a week every week. Ill always use it. It may end up my back up controller but it has a special place in my heart Originally Posted by DJMilk3y s4 and two technics:P Yes Boss... thats what i am stoked about.
Omar Nila 12.09.2010	s4 and two technics:P
Ginny Fergson 12.09.2010	Guys, as someone who is dithering over which controller to buy, does this mean were all dicthing the Vestax?
Jacquiline Dua 11.09.2010	Then I hope the mixer is called something like Digital Bastard 4.. i could live with that
Leeanna Ayla 11.09.2010	Originally Posted by Karlos Santos If i was to guess at something other than a a controller id say a 4 Channel Digital Mixer. A kinda Denon X1600 mixer Doable..? That's what I'm believeing.
Eldora Longchamp 11.09.2010	Originally Posted by BigC Although I haven't seen it yet, what I'm personally hoping for is 3 decks, and one sampler deck function. I feel that's the strongest way I can mess about, but we'll see. I like Serato's waveforms better, but everything else about Traktor I like better. +1 .. stole them words out of my mouth.. And I have the S4 on preorder.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 11.09.2010	Originally Posted by djfrogstar The way its worded ...its safe to assume its a controller... I mean... mabey the db4 is brand new type of headphones for two people and 4 ears... l Yeah safe to assume its a controller but what confuses me is the BPM blurb says that A&H will "will also be able to get hands-on with the Xone DX pro MIDI controller and the acclaimed Xone:4D." which kinda differentiates there controllers from the other product. And so soon after the DX..? If i was to guess at something other than a a controller id say a 4 Channel Digital Mixer. A kinda Denon X1600 mixer Originally Posted by BigC what I'm personally hoping for is 3 decks, and one sampler deck function. I feel that's the strongest way I can mess about. Doable..?
Audrey Pinda 11.09.2010	As far as the current options out, I'm really looking at the S4 for the solution for me. Mostly because of the updated Traktor and the integrated setup with the controller. The HID controls are also a huge selling point, because otherwise I was looking at the NS7, V7, or VCI-300 which all utilize ITCH. I believe this controller really is going to be something else. I can't wait for it to come out. Hoping it comes out right around Tax Return season as well. Although I haven't seen it yet, what I'm personally hoping for is 3 decks, and one sampler deck function. I feel that's the strongest way I can mess about, but we'll see. I like Serato's waveforms better, but everything else about Traktor I like better. For me, it's at the top of my "beginner" budget as well. I suppose I could go with a VCI-100 and a Midi-Fighter for a similar pricepoint, but I like the idea of the full integration since I'd be carrying it around often.
Jacquiline Dua 11.09.2010	Originally Posted by photojojo Video un-eartherd, check the title of the video In actual news though it's on the BPM website that A&H will unveil the DB4, so I guess it really is real :eek: http://www.visitbpm.co.uk/exhibitors...e2291fec481f69 The way its worded ...its safe to assume its a controller... I mean... mabey the db4 is brand new type of headphones for two people and 4 ears... In this day and age... the rat race in controllers and the software running them.... gives you all the clear trends which will repeat on themselves. Xone Dx.. well.. yeah I guess made specifically for Itch was not Allen and heaths best move considering the power of traktor. Of course you can use it with traktor, but not optimized for it. The S4 looks like it will clearly be the tightest setup for traktor... but the cheapest feeling(first impression from seeing pictures and videos) Size and weight ultimately will one set of factors ... Mabey If I win the lotto I ll get em all
nayit ruiz jaramillo 11.09.2010	Originally Posted by Archies'bald shockerooni. :d Whatever Trevor... Originally Posted by photojojo Pics please, and lots of them. Definitely Originally Posted by photojojo Whatever.... Pfft...! Originally Posted by photojojo It would be nice if switching between the two options was just a simple layout switch that you could do while a track is playing, but I don't know if it'll be that way or not. Good question. Changing from 2 Decks/Sample Decks to 4 Deck mode is quite a feature change. Its much more than just a layout change say from 2 deck to 4 deck or 2 deck to 2 deck and sample decks. I believe it might be stretching it to have that. oh and Sample decks are exactly that. They are not full decks that can play full length tracks.
Leeanna Ayla 11.09.2010	Originally Posted by djfrogstar Im definitely going to get the new allen and heath 4 deck controller coming out later this year.. I dont even know a single thing about it.. Video un-eartherd, check the title of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvoBNoSVkEE In actual news though it's on the BPM website that A&H will unveil the DB4, so I guess it really is real :eek: http://www.visitbpm.co.uk/exhibitors...e2291fec481f69
Leeanna Ayla 11.09.2010	You can choose if you want decks c and d to be regular decks or if you want sample decks running, but not four decks and the sampler. So if yu wanted to play 3 or 4 minutes you would need to have decks c and d running. It would be nice if switching between the two options was just a simple layout switch that you could do while a track is playing, but I don't know if it'll be that way or not.

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