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About to purchase S4 - Monitor and Laptop Advice!
Posted on: 04.12.2010 by Izetta Affonso
After much thought and reading the reviews here on the community I have decided to take the plunge and purchase an S4.

I will need some speakers so have decided on purchasing some rokit krk5 monitors. They are not cheap at
Carlee Pickard
06.12.2010
Originally Posted by sweens
Don't let your mom use the Macbook?
Lol are you serious? Out of all that, thats what you take out of it? I was using that as an example of how helpful they are.

I'll let my mom use whatever I want (it was my brothers MacBook Pro), and frankly if that's all you can take out of it you're a moron. Your parents are people who took care of you, who raised you, who spent money on you, who took their time on you - there is not a chance in hell that i'd ever say "no" to any of my parents for anythign. And on a side note, she pays for all my cars (well over $120k) and what not. Money is not really an issue for my parents. I just pay for my hobbies and non motor related items. :P

My point for the people who are confused out of all these stupid fucking posts due to morons taking the dumbest things out of it is that Apple has great customer service.

Does that help you understand? Regardless I am no longer going to waste my time head banging over this thread (lol). I'm done posting on this thread. <3
Carlee Pickard
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
So.fucking.what.

My point is if - like every normal person on this community - you had a copy of your work somewhere else - when you upgrade the os it doesn't matter if 'windows mysteriously wipes your hard-drive.'

And how am I a fanboy when I've just bought a mac.

You talk about experience, well in my experience computers don't make mistakes, it's the dick's using them that do.
Well in my experience Windows is shit, I was giving him my two cents. He is asking peoples opinion, so I gave him mine. I really don't give a shit about what you personally believe of what my suggestion was to him.

My point is, that is my experience. Say whatever you want, do whatever you want. I really don't care.

For example something happened with my brothers MacBook Pro today when my mom was using it. She restarted the computer after it installed an update from Apple and then it would not boot up. A kernel overload occurred, I called in their customer service - they couldn't help too much but they set me up with my Genius Bar about 10 minutes away from my house. I went over there, 45 minutes I walked out of there with a laptop that worked perfectly again.

Take from it what you will.
Hailey Westen
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
well in my experience computers don't make mistakes, it's the dick's using them that do.
LMAO a bit harsh but very true
Janyce Henningson
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
My gripe is that when I was upgrading to Windows 7 is that WINDOWS TOLD ME TO RESTART MY COMPUTER. I restarted it, and it cleaned out my hard drive. Fact of the matter is that I have had way better luck with Apple in general, and it's nice to have a face to actually go and be able to talk to. Along with amazing in store support. That's all I was getting at. You can be a Windows fan boy all you want, it still wont change the way I view it or care to view it at all.

Experience with gear > What people on the internet tell you.

Its always how its going to be.
So.fucking.what.

My point is if - like every normal person on this community - you had a copy of your work somewhere else - when you upgrade the os it doesn't matter if 'windows mysteriously wipes your hard-drive.'

And how am I a fanboy when I've just bought a mac.

You talk about experience, well in my experience computers don't make mistakes, it's the dick's using them that do.
Tracy Speich
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
My gripe is that when I was upgrading to Windows 7 is that WINDOWS TOLD ME TO RESTART MY COMPUTER. I restarted it, and it cleaned out my hard drive. Fact of the matter is that I have had way better luck with Apple in general, and it's nice to have a face to actually go and be able to talk to. Along with amazing in store support. That's all I was getting at. You can be a Windows fan boy all you want, it still wont change the way I view it or care to view it at all.

Experience with gear > What people on the internet tell you.

Its always how its going to be.

damn thats odd, i just did a fresh install of win 7 on my asus laptop the other day. it clearly gave me an option to back up my data. what its suppose to do is create a disk image with ur said data, and restore them once the install is done. but i know how u feel bro, ive had my evening mares with windows too.
Carlee Pickard
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
No you lost it cos you didn't back it up.
As far as I'm aware Mac's use Fujitsu HD's so they aint nothing special and can fail like any other...
My gripe is that when I was upgrading to Windows 7 is that WINDOWS TOLD ME TO RESTART MY COMPUTER. I restarted it, and it cleaned out my hard drive. Fact of the matter is that I have had way better luck with Apple in general, and it's nice to have a face to actually go and be able to talk to. Along with amazing in store support. That's all I was getting at. You can be a Windows fan boy all you want, it still wont change the way I view it or care to view it at all.

Experience with gear > What people on the internet tell you.

Its always how its going to be.
Izetta Affonso
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
2008 Macbook Pro 4,1
15" Screen
2.5 GHz Core 2 Duo - 6Mb Level 2 Cache
4 Gb RAM

One Of These
thanks for that
Janyce Henningson
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
No, I actually lost it because Windows stuff is shit.
No you lost it cos you didn't back it up.
As far as I'm aware Mac's use Fujitsu HD's so they aint nothing special and can fail like any other...
Tracy Speich
07.12.2010		sega genesis? lol.
Janyce Jardon
07.12.2010		Sega megadrive ftw!!!
Tracy Speich
07.12.2010		yet another thread turned ugly over the mac vs pc feud.
Carlee Pickard
06.12.2010
Originally Posted by sweens
Don't let your mom use the Macbook?
Lol are you serious? Out of all that, thats what you take out of it? I was using that as an example of how helpful they are.

I'll let my mom use whatever I want (it was my brothers MacBook Pro), and frankly if that's all you can take out of it you're a moron. Your parents are people who took care of you, who raised you, who spent money on you, who took their time on you - there is not a chance in hell that i'd ever say "no" to any of my parents for anythign. And on a side note, she pays for all my cars (well over $120k) and what not. Money is not really an issue for my parents. I just pay for my hobbies and non motor related items. :P

My point for the people who are confused out of all these stupid fucking posts due to morons taking the dumbest things out of it is that Apple has great customer service.

Does that help you understand? Regardless I am no longer going to waste my time head banging over this thread (lol). I'm done posting on this thread. <3
Verdie Zabransky
06.12.2010		Don't let your mom use the Macbook?
Carlee Pickard
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
So.fucking.what.

My point is if - like every normal person on this community - you had a copy of your work somewhere else - when you upgrade the os it doesn't matter if 'windows mysteriously wipes your hard-drive.'

And how am I a fanboy when I've just bought a mac.

You talk about experience, well in my experience computers don't make mistakes, it's the dick's using them that do.
Well in my experience Windows is shit, I was giving him my two cents. He is asking peoples opinion, so I gave him mine. I really don't give a shit about what you personally believe of what my suggestion was to him.

My point is, that is my experience. Say whatever you want, do whatever you want. I really don't care.

For example something happened with my brothers MacBook Pro today when my mom was using it. She restarted the computer after it installed an update from Apple and then it would not boot up. A kernel overload occurred, I called in their customer service - they couldn't help too much but they set me up with my Genius Bar about 10 minutes away from my house. I went over there, 45 minutes I walked out of there with a laptop that worked perfectly again.

Take from it what you will.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
05.12.2010		Peback.
Hailey Westen
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
well in my experience computers don't make mistakes, it's the dick's using them that do.
LMAO a bit harsh but very true
Janyce Henningson
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
My gripe is that when I was upgrading to Windows 7 is that WINDOWS TOLD ME TO RESTART MY COMPUTER. I restarted it, and it cleaned out my hard drive. Fact of the matter is that I have had way better luck with Apple in general, and it's nice to have a face to actually go and be able to talk to. Along with amazing in store support. That's all I was getting at. You can be a Windows fan boy all you want, it still wont change the way I view it or care to view it at all.

Experience with gear > What people on the internet tell you.

Its always how its going to be.
So.fucking.what.

My point is if - like every normal person on this community - you had a copy of your work somewhere else - when you upgrade the os it doesn't matter if 'windows mysteriously wipes your hard-drive.'

And how am I a fanboy when I've just bought a mac.

You talk about experience, well in my experience computers don't make mistakes, it's the dick's using them that do.
Tracy Speich
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
My gripe is that when I was upgrading to Windows 7 is that WINDOWS TOLD ME TO RESTART MY COMPUTER. I restarted it, and it cleaned out my hard drive. Fact of the matter is that I have had way better luck with Apple in general, and it's nice to have a face to actually go and be able to talk to. Along with amazing in store support. That's all I was getting at. You can be a Windows fan boy all you want, it still wont change the way I view it or care to view it at all.

Experience with gear > What people on the internet tell you.

Its always how its going to be.

damn thats odd, i just did a fresh install of win 7 on my asus laptop the other day. it clearly gave me an option to back up my data. what its suppose to do is create a disk image with ur said data, and restore them once the install is done. but i know how u feel bro, ive had my evening mares with windows too.
Carlee Pickard
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
No you lost it cos you didn't back it up.
As far as I'm aware Mac's use Fujitsu HD's so they aint nothing special and can fail like any other...
My gripe is that when I was upgrading to Windows 7 is that WINDOWS TOLD ME TO RESTART MY COMPUTER. I restarted it, and it cleaned out my hard drive. Fact of the matter is that I have had way better luck with Apple in general, and it's nice to have a face to actually go and be able to talk to. Along with amazing in store support. That's all I was getting at. You can be a Windows fan boy all you want, it still wont change the way I view it or care to view it at all.

Experience with gear > What people on the internet tell you.

Its always how its going to be.
Tracy Speich
05.12.2010		whether on a mac or pc, always have an external hard drive on hand. they are relatively cheap now a days. 500gigs for under a 100 bux. and like everyone has said already, back up ur shit!, on the external hard drive. electronics DO FAIL at some point, its inevitable, to believe any less is moronic. so regardless of what u get, mac or pc, get an external hd too.
now back on topic, KRKs are awesome. i got 2 rp5s and a 8. love em for the crisp and accurate delivery. as for ur comp choice, my vote is a mac. right out the gate itll work. i have a pc too but if ur on a budget, get a used mac. i feel perfectly fine with buying a used mac and not having to worry so much about it crashing on me. can i say the same about a pc, no. its gotta be new with extended warranty and all...
Janyce Jardon
05.12.2010		Totally agree...even though macs are much more stable you should still do a backup every now and then... although macs have less tendancy to crash, therefore needing less backups... my mac has never crashed once but since i own a record label... id hate to lose all of the labels projects/sets/tracks/masters, so i still back everything up once a month... just in case...
Izetta Affonso
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
2008 Macbook Pro 4,1
15" Screen
2.5 GHz Core 2 Duo - 6Mb Level 2 Cache
4 Gb RAM

One Of These
thanks for that
Janyce Henningson
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
No, I actually lost it because Windows stuff is shit.
No you lost it cos you didn't back it up.
As far as I'm aware Mac's use Fujitsu HD's so they aint nothing special and can fail like any other...
Janyce Henningson
06.12.2010
Originally Posted by Mintaka
what spec was the mac you got?
2008 Macbook Pro 4,1
15" Screen
2.5 GHz Core 2 Duo - 6Mb Level 2 Cache
4 Gb RAM

One Of These
Hilary Grown
06.12.2010		Can you believe that a friend of mine who's a graphics designer lost 250 gb of his work? It was stored on his MACBOOK!!!!!!1111ONEONEONE

Computers (and harddrives) are not forever. Shit crashes sometimes. Back it up. Always.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
06.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
No, I actually lost it because Windows stuff is shit. You should not NEED to backup ANYTHING. You buy a computer with a large hard drive so it can store shit.
Dude welcome to the real world.
Shit happens, stuff breaks and especially, data is lost.

Learn the hard way if you want but you will lose some data and a backup is the only thing that helps.


Originally Posted by Kh3MiC4L
back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! First things we learn at my audio school !!!!!!
+The Universe.

Gospel Truth...
Izetta Affonso
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Filterkat
sure its possible... thats what boot camp is for...

on my second macbook pro i have windows XP loaded on, and OSX snow leapord... i use snow leoapard for all my mac stuff... and then windows to run 1 or 2 games which dont run on OSX, along with a few other things that need windows to run... like my tax return program and stuff...
Is snow leopard the OS for mac? Sorry I'm not too clued up on MACS.

Ever since my Iphone stopped working I kind of pledged never to have anything to with apple again, looks like I might be eating my own words soon lol.
Janyce Jardon
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Mintaka
Is this possible? does that not deify the point of owning a mac with its more stable os?
sure its possible... thats what boot camp is for...

on my second macbook pro i have windows XP loaded on, and OSX snow leapord... i use snow leoapard for all my mac stuff... and then windows to run 1 or 2 games which dont run on OSX, along with a few other things that need windows to run... like my tax return program and stuff...
Izetta Affonso
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Actually, you lost 200gb of stuff cos you didn't back it up.
Even then you would've been able to recover the stuff from the hd.

Mintaka I got a Windows machine and it runs S4 fine, but it's quite high spec.

I've just bought a mac though cos I wanted a seperate dj laptop and if you can afford one get a mac.
I got a 3 year old one from eBay for
Izetta Affonso
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Filterkat
whats stopping you from getting a mac, then loading windows on it... then youll have the best of both worlds... but trust me... once you start using mac... you never go back...
Is this possible? does that not deify the point of owning a mac with its more stable os?
Izetta Affonso
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
No, I actually lost it because Windows stuff is shit. You should not NEED to backup ANYTHING. You buy a computer with a large hard drive so it can store shit. Not so you need to get 3 more backups to backup the info since the fucking piece of shit you picked up first was a fucking waste of money.

Microsoft, Windows, PCs are not the way to go from my experience. I used to be a die-hard PC fan. My opinion is not biased, it is supported by experiences I have been through.
Thanks for your fruitful responses but to be honest all hardware can potentially crash so back up is very important. I'm a photographer by trade and have back up drives of back up drives along with CD backup storage for total piece of mind.

I have owned a PC HP Compaq for ten years and it is still working everytime (even though the spec is poor in comparison and it makes some funny noises lol).

I am however believeing of taking the plunge and now going for a MAC Book Pro. It will be my first ever mac and even though I would never make the move fully to mac for my occupation (too much software and hardware to replace) for my music / audio interest I believe it will be a good call.

I don't believe I can justify paying a
Eloy Snopkowski
05.12.2010		back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! back up ! First things we learn at my audio school !!!!!!
Carlee Pickard
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Actually, you lost 200gb of stuff cos you didn't back it up.
No, I actually lost it because Windows stuff is shit. You should not NEED to backup ANYTHING. You buy a computer with a large hard drive so it can store shit. Not so you need to get 3 more backups to backup the info since the fucking piece of shit you picked up first was a fucking waste of money.

Microsoft, Windows, PCs are not the way to go from my experience. I used to be a die-hard PC fan. My opinion is not biased, it is supported by experiences I have been through.
Janyce Jardon
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Coldfuzion
I was an avid PC user, built my own first PC at the age of 13, never turned back... UNTIL WINDOWS 7 AND FUCKING SHITTY ASS MOTHER FUCKING SERVICE FROM MICROSOFT ALONG WITH SHITTY ASS FUCKING PRODUCTS FUCK THEM ALL.

My brother had a MacBook and he had an issue, fucking Apple resolved it within 20 minutes.

Fuck mother fucking Windows. I'm NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER going back. PCs are SHIT, Windows is SHIT, Microsoft is SHIT, FUCK them all.

I don't care if I have to not eat for a month to get a Mac over any sort of PC, i'll fucking starve. But I am never again dealing with any sort of PC support, or issues. Fuck that shit.


Ugh sorry for ranting, I basically lost 200gbs+ of info cause Microsofts Windows 7 shit told me to restart the computer after the upgrade, I did it, *boom* shit crashed. After 9 hours on the phone with customer service from Microsoft I ended up beign transferred to other people, and at the end I was talking to the first person I fucking talked to at the beginning of the call.

Fuck that shit, and fuck Windows and Microsoft.

Excuse the language, I feel kind of strongly on the subject (if you couldn't tell).

I would vote Mac any day of the week.
Word...

i used to be a PC geek also... Used to build my own computers/overclock do all the geeky shit... until my PC laptop crapped out on me twice during one live gig... and one time i even got the BSOD... so i threw my laptop in the pool after the BSOD incident... and bought a mac... never looked back since... already onto my second macbook pro... but the first one is still running as smooth as the day i bought it... Still use it for doing some things, but its now my "fun" laptop and the laptop i do photo editing on, whereas the new one now serves as a pure audio laptop..
Janyce Henningson
05.12.2010		Actually, you lost 200gb of stuff cos you didn't back it up.
Even then you would've been able to recover the stuff from the hd.

Mintaka I got a Windows machine and it runs S4 fine, but it's quite high spec.

I've just bought a mac though cos I wanted a seperate dj laptop and if you can afford one get a mac.
I got a 3 year old one from eBay for
Carlee Pickard
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by Filterkat
whats stopping you from getting a mac, then loading windows on it... then youll have the best of both worlds... but trust me... once you start using mac... you never go back...
I was an avid PC user, built my own first PC at the age of 13, never turned back... UNTIL WINDOWS 7 AND FUCKING SHITTY ASS MOTHER FUCKING SERVICE FROM MICROSOFT ALONG WITH SHITTY ASS FUCKING PRODUCTS FUCK THEM ALL.

My brother had a MacBook and he had an issue, fucking Apple resolved it within 20 minutes.

Fuck mother fucking Windows. I'm NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER going back. PCs are SHIT, Windows is SHIT, Microsoft is SHIT, FUCK them all.

I don't care if I have to not eat for a month to get a Mac over any sort of PC, i'll fucking starve. But I am never again dealing with any sort of PC support, or issues. Fuck that shit.


Ugh sorry for ranting, I basically lost 200gbs+ of info cause Microsofts Windows 7 shit told me to restart the computer after the upgrade, I did it, *boom* shit crashed. After 9 hours on the phone with customer service from Microsoft I ended up beign transferred to other people, and at the end I was talking to the first person I fucking talked to at the beginning of the call.

Fuck that shit, and fuck Windows and Microsoft.

Excuse the language, I feel kind of strongly on the subject (if you couldn't tell).

I would vote Mac any day of the week.
Janyce Jardon
05.12.2010		whats stopping you from getting a mac, then loading windows on it... then youll have the best of both worlds... but trust me... once you start using mac... you never go back...
Izetta Affonso
05.12.2010
Originally Posted by NickGadget
I got an Asus with 17" screen - there are quite a lot of things going on in the S4 software so I'd never go for a smaller one. I had a lot of problems with dropouts, but after disabling all network adapters it works like a charm.

AMD Athlon II M340 2.2GHz
4GB DDR2 800MHz
ATI Radeon HD5145 512MB DDR2
Thanks, is the type of on board sound card relevant as the S4 will utilise the in built sound card if I am correct?
Hilary Grown
04.12.2010		I got an Asus with 17" screen - there are quite a lot of things going on in the S4 software so I'd never go for a smaller one. I had a lot of problems with dropouts, but after disabling all network adapters it works like a charm.

AMD Athlon II M340 2.2GHz
4GB DDR2 800MHz
ATI Radeon HD5145 512MB DDR2
Izetta Affonso
04.12.2010		Plus macs more expensive.

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