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Question about "crash" control with s4
Posted on: 18.05.2011 by Yee Bedilion
Hey everyone,

I'm using TSP2 with 2 channel mixer and my x1 and midi fighter.

The flying spaghetti monster is great, but I don't like him showing up to my gigs in the form of usb cables.

I also like jog wheels for beatmatching, but I dont really wanna lug my cdj800s with cds.

The cdj350's have usb which makes me want a pair of them.

At the end of the day, I really like mixiing with traktor because I have been using it for a year or so now. I like the idea of showing up with just music for a gig but my comfort zone is inside of traktor.

So I have been looking into the S4 and the MC6000.

ideally, I want to plug in the S4, plug in my laptop, connect them together and run the master out of the S4 to a XLR to the sound system without anything else in the way.

One local said he attempted to do this but it wouldn't work, but he has since sent it back to NI directly for a reissue or something so that was just probably a lemon.

The only thing that is stopping me from using the S4 is that I want to have back up incase the macbook explodes.

I have been using traktor pro 2 now for at least 20 hours of gigging and the keylock brings the cpu meter up but doesn't cause any real problems.

I've had more problems with hardware then software so far it seems.

So I been looking around the net and I just need to rephrase this in my own words and have someone clear it up for me.

If I use the s4 and its plugged in AC. I can run an ipod on channel D put it on "thru" and have an emergency mix ready for the crash. The computer crashs, I hit play and manipulate the master volume til its ok and start rebooting.

If I have traktor working ok, and I have the ipod setup like that, can I still use channel D for mixing as per usual or do I have to make the thru switch before I can get the ipod to work after the crash.

So this is what I believe the ordr of operations is:

playing>crash>hit play on ipod> adjust volume> troubleshoot

is it actually like this:

playing>crash>find back of controller and switch the little tiny thru switch>it play> trouble shoot

The lack of mess also increases my practice time because often the set up time is enough to stop me from practicing when I get a free 45 minutes.

This also leaves one usb slot free for an X1 if I wanted or a midi fighter.

What do you have to say?
Yee Bedilion
18.05.2011
Hey everyone,

I'm using TSP2 with 2 channel mixer and my x1 and midi fighter.

The flying spaghetti monster is great, but I don't like him showing up to my gigs in the form of usb cables.

I also like jog wheels for beatmatching, but I dont really wanna lug my cdj800s with cds.

The cdj350's have usb which makes me want a pair of them.

At the end of the day, I really like mixiing with traktor because I have been using it for a year or so now. I like the idea of showing up with just music for a gig but my comfort zone is inside of traktor.

So I have been looking into the S4 and the MC6000.

ideally, I want to plug in the S4, plug in my laptop, connect them together and run the master out of the S4 to a XLR to the sound system without anything else in the way.

One local said he attempted to do this but it wouldn't work, but he has since sent it back to NI directly for a reissue or something so that was just probably a lemon.

The only thing that is stopping me from using the S4 is that I want to have back up incase the macbook explodes.

I have been using traktor pro 2 now for at least 20 hours of gigging and the keylock brings the cpu meter up but doesn't cause any real problems.

I've had more problems with hardware then software so far it seems.

So I been looking around the net and I just need to rephrase this in my own words and have someone clear it up for me.

If I use the s4 and its plugged in AC. I can run an ipod on channel D put it on "thru" and have an emergency mix ready for the crash. The computer crashs, I hit play and manipulate the master volume til its ok and start rebooting.

If I have traktor working ok, and I have the ipod setup like that, can I still use channel D for mixing as per usual or do I have to make the thru switch before I can get the ipod to work after the crash.

So this is what I believe the ordr of operations is:

playing>crash>hit play on ipod> adjust volume> troubleshoot

is it actually like this:

playing>crash>find back of controller and switch the little tiny thru switch>it play> trouble shoot

The lack of mess also increases my practice time because often the set up time is enough to stop me from practicing when I get a free 45 minutes.

This also leaves one usb slot free for an X1 if I wanted or a midi fighter.

What do you have to say?
Bailey Fergurson
19.05.2011
I had the same ambition as you.

Just turn up with a laptop and an s4, plug right into the PA with no need for an external mixer or soundcard.

Its the most compact setup available I imagine

I play gigs with my own Pa system and Oh how I wish I never sold my xone 92 mixer and audio 4 soundcard in persuit of this ambition.

The s4, a great controller, but the soundcard just dosent cut the mustard.

The quality I feel just isnt there compared to other interfaces I have owned, couple this with the fact that in thru mode you cant have both the mic and line input working simultaneously and your basically screwed.

Best bet is to use an audio interface, I am currently looking at the
FOCUSRITE SAFFIRE 6
Yee Bedilion
18.05.2011
Bam Bam Bam. You sirs are to go, mannnn.

Well. Email is going off to get that shit on order.


I'd say a flight case as well.


That's it man, I was born in a digital age.
Leeanna Ayla
18.05.2011
With practice it's a pretty fast switch.
Nedra Fresneda
18.05.2011
Just leave D in USB and switch to Thru if something goes wrong. If you have trouble finding it, remember it's right between channels B and D gain encoders on the back, it's volume knob is in the same line as channel D. I'd recommend you to adjust it to match Traktor's output level once and leave it, then you don't have to compensate with the master knob and turn it back when Traktor gets back up.



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