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S2 has no Auxiliary jack, look for something else?

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S2 has no Auxiliary jack, look for something else? Posted on: 21.02.2012 by Aubrey Rollie Hey guys, So, I'm a total noob to this whole deal, so please be patient, and I'll try to learn quick. I recently DJed my first dance at my high school, and it went well except for the SNAFUs that come with the first DJ gig. Using Mixxx at first it was going ok, but then it crashed. God bless my friend for backing me up with his computer and eventually we just ran the dance off of ITunes. Not a prime choice, but it by the end, people were telling me that I did a great job! And now, I realize that if I want to make money through this, I need software and a controller, and since my friend has the sound system, I believe i'll be set with that. But I'm trying to find a board. Since I'm all digital, I was going to use Traktor Pro 2 as my software, on my 64 bit, HP Pavilion (DV6). The possibilities are more endless with Pro2 than with Serrato, IMO. I've used the demos of both, and Traktor is slightly less stable, but more versatile. So this brings me to the board/controller... I almost convinced my parents to let me get the Kontrol S2, but after my dad did some research I found out that the S2 doesn't have an auxiliary input jack. For me and my dad, this was a big red flag, considering that if my computer crashes, it'd be nice to be able to use my IPod to take over till my computer comes back. Researching around, I am having trouble finding quality alternatives that are as classy as the S2. When all is said and done, my main requirements are: 1) less than 600 Dollars 2) 2 deck control (Although this is standard, I thought I should mention it) 3) auxiliary input jack (preferably with a preamp but not required) 4) less than like 15 pounds, but I'd be ok with 20 if it's a really good board 5) easy to use, quick to learn, versatile and the least important: 6) classy as can be. (I'll manage if it looks ugly, don't worry haha) So, if anyone has any suggestions, or wants to recommend better products than what I'm looking at, feel free to go right ahead! Thank you everyone!
Chong Prestwich 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... I personally feed the S2 into a cheap mixer so other sources can just be plugged into that. but if you wanted something that was still cheap but a littl;e more professional than the above i'd even go as far as to try this for an even quicker turnaround... under
Chong Prestwich 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... I personally feed the S2 into a cheap mixer so other sources can just be plugged into that. but if you wanted something that was still cheap but a littl;e more professional than the above i'd even go as far as to try this for an even quicker turnaround... under
Tennie Dornburg 03.03.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one O_O i believe someone didn't read the posts thoroughly
Chong Prestwich 03.03.2012	Originally Posted by LmnLm3 I wonder if this could be used backwards.... Like, plug in a sound source on the single end, then have different output options (different speakers, headphone, etc) on the other ends - like a mixer where only one channel can be active at a time... I might have an odd use for that... yeah there's no physical/technical reason it wouldnt work. might wanna turn the source output volume down when switching though to avoid loud pops / speaker damage
Lizzie Hoesley 02.03.2012	Originally Posted by DJAdamDaniel I wonder if this could be used backwards.... Like, plug in a sound source on the single end, then have different output options (different speakers, headphone, etc) on the other ends - like a mixer where only one channel can be active at a time... I might have an odd use for that...
Chong Prestwich 28.02.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic i still don't get it, maybe i'm dumb. the way i see it is this... 1 ipod has 1 exit door. 1 s2 has 1 exit door. how is signal gonna go in w/o an entrance door? unless he meant, if your computer/s2 set up crash. then that set up is out of the equation. then the next OPTIONAL method is hooking ur ipod straight to your speaker using that adapter he showed. but the point I'm trying to pull is that you CAN'T have s2 and ipod in the same equation. Si? you'd only use that to get an rca output from the ipod (other mp3 players are available) to the mixer. the s2 wouldnt need this
Kandy Ahdoot 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one just wow
Joselyn Supina 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky remove rca output cable from main output of crashed s2. hold ipod in hand>plug in adapter>plug in rca cable recently removed from s2>press play on ipod>music comes out of speakers sure the output might be lower than the s2 soundcard but its a fix in an emergency situation. This! If your computer has crashed, your S2, like many other controllers, is useless until your computer comes back to life. A controller does just that, controls a program on your computer. With an S4 you can run line/phono in, but it's still not going to work if the computer has crashed. The adapter offers a quick fix on the cheap. Also, if you're playing out at most any respectable club, they would have a mixer you could plug the iPod into and raise the level.
Chong Prestwich 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... I personally feed the S2 into a cheap mixer so other sources can just be plugged into that. but if you wanted something that was still cheap but a littl;e more professional than the above i'd even go as far as to try this for an even quicker turnaround... under
Julian Ispas 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by sss18734 I believe they mean just switching out the outgoing RCA's to the iPod in case of a crash. Still not something I'd want to do. Not to mention you'd be disappointed with the low output of the iPod. i still don't get it, maybe i'm dumb. the way i see it is this... 1 ipod has 1 exit door. 1 s2 has 1 exit door. how is signal gonna go in w/o an entrance door? unless he meant, if your computer/s2 set up crash. then that set up is out of the equation. then the next OPTIONAL method is hooking ur ipod straight to your speaker using that adapter he showed. but the point I'm trying to pull is that you CAN'T have s2 and ipod in the same equation. Si?
Erica Charvet 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one I believe they mean just switching out the outgoing RCA's to the iPod in case of a crash. Still not something I'd want to do. Not to mention you'd be disappointed with the low output of the iPod.
Julian Ispas 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one
Portia Zagula 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... Brilliant!
Era Roka 03.03.2012	Just do what oliosky said, that's the simpelest solution, if you want a bit more advanced solution buy a cheap mixer and then you can switch to your ipod whenever you want.
Tennie Dornburg 03.03.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one O_O i believe someone didn't read the posts thoroughly
Chong Prestwich 03.03.2012	Originally Posted by LmnLm3 I wonder if this could be used backwards.... Like, plug in a sound source on the single end, then have different output options (different speakers, headphone, etc) on the other ends - like a mixer where only one channel can be active at a time... I might have an odd use for that... yeah there's no physical/technical reason it wouldnt work. might wanna turn the source output volume down when switching though to avoid loud pops / speaker damage
Lizzie Hoesley 02.03.2012	Originally Posted by DJAdamDaniel I wonder if this could be used backwards.... Like, plug in a sound source on the single end, then have different output options (different speakers, headphone, etc) on the other ends - like a mixer where only one channel can be active at a time... I might have an odd use for that...
Chong Prestwich 28.02.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic i still don't get it, maybe i'm dumb. the way i see it is this... 1 ipod has 1 exit door. 1 s2 has 1 exit door. how is signal gonna go in w/o an entrance door? unless he meant, if your computer/s2 set up crash. then that set up is out of the equation. then the next OPTIONAL method is hooking ur ipod straight to your speaker using that adapter he showed. but the point I'm trying to pull is that you CAN'T have s2 and ipod in the same equation. Si? you'd only use that to get an rca output from the ipod (other mp3 players are available) to the mixer. the s2 wouldnt need this
Kandy Ahdoot 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one just wow
Joselyn Supina 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky remove rca output cable from main output of crashed s2. hold ipod in hand>plug in adapter>plug in rca cable recently removed from s2>press play on ipod>music comes out of speakers sure the output might be lower than the s2 soundcard but its a fix in an emergency situation. This! If your computer has crashed, your S2, like many other controllers, is useless until your computer comes back to life. A controller does just that, controls a program on your computer. With an S4 you can run line/phono in, but it's still not going to work if the computer has crashed. The adapter offers a quick fix on the cheap. Also, if you're playing out at most any respectable club, they would have a mixer you could plug the iPod into and raise the level.
Chong Prestwich 27.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... I personally feed the S2 into a cheap mixer so other sources can just be plugged into that. but if you wanted something that was still cheap but a littl;e more professional than the above i'd even go as far as to try this for an even quicker turnaround... under
Johnetta Olewine 26.02.2012	remove rca output cable from main output of crashed s2. hold ipod in hand>plug in adapter>plug in rca cable recently removed from s2>press play on ipod>music comes out of speakers sure the output might be lower than the s2 soundcard but its a fix in an emergency situation.
Julian Ispas 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by sss18734 I believe they mean just switching out the outgoing RCA's to the iPod in case of a crash. Still not something I'd want to do. Not to mention you'd be disappointed with the low output of the iPod. i still don't get it, maybe i'm dumb. the way i see it is this... 1 ipod has 1 exit door. 1 s2 has 1 exit door. how is signal gonna go in w/o an entrance door? unless he meant, if your computer/s2 set up crash. then that set up is out of the equation. then the next OPTIONAL method is hooking ur ipod straight to your speaker using that adapter he showed. but the point I'm trying to pull is that you CAN'T have s2 and ipod in the same equation. Si?
Erica Charvet 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by Kensic WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one I believe they mean just switching out the outgoing RCA's to the iPod in case of a crash. Still not something I'd want to do. Not to mention you'd be disappointed with the low output of the iPod.
Julian Ispas 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... WRONG!!! how is that possible? An ipod headphone jack is an "OUTput".....S2 also only has "OUTput"....you cant connect them together like that and expect the S2 play the music from the Ipod. please correct me if im wrong on this one
Erica Charvet 26.02.2012	Aren't you running the S2 into an external mixer before sending the signal to your amps/speakers? Just use a dedicated channel for your backup source. If you don't have one, spend like $30 and get yourself a Behringer 502. It would let you plug in a microphone as well.
Myung Belski 26.02.2012	I always hook up a small mixing board into my setup for more control on sound. I have this one: Amazon.com: Behringer XENYX 1002B Premium 10-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Preamps, British Eqs And Optional Battery Operation: Musical Instruments@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sjjJ5XyUL.@@AMEPARAM@@51sjjJ5XyUL I like it because it's battery powered for portable recording.
Tashia Mcdunn 26.02.2012	plug your a s2 to a small live sound mixer then to your amp or powerd speakers. This way you have a small mixer that you can use to mix your s2 with a backup source. I would pick something like this up since its passive and would require less stuff to plug in: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ter_Mixer.html
Portia Zagula 26.02.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me.... Brilliant!
Joselyn Supina 22.02.2012	I have no experience with the other controllers, so I can't say much about them. I'm currently running an S4 which I love. I had a numark omni control for two days before I decided it wasn't for me and that I wanted more. One nice thing with the S4 and S2, they blend perfectly with the Traktor. You might want ask around the community to see if anyone can help you. I've never heard of the American Audio one. I believe they sell the Stanton one at Best Buy and I saw someone on here trash talk it a bit, but I can't remember the context.
Aubrey Rollie 22.02.2012	thanks guys, you've helped a lot. although looking around even more, i've seen some other really cool boards. what do people believe of the following? http://www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...FUFN4Aod_1UEQw http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SCS4DJ http://www.planetdj.com/i--VMS4TRAK&...ent=googlebase are these any good? or should i just stick with the S2?
Joselyn Supina 21.02.2012	The S4 doesnt have a stand alone built in either. And yeah, crashes are rare, but shit happens. Just make sure you keep your laptop clean and you should be good - install your updates, don't download a bunch of crap, turn off other programs when DJing...a lot of its just about having common sense.
Madelene Witek 21.02.2012	Does the S4 work this way? I can understand if you would want to mix without a laptop, but why is everyone so concerned about their computer crashing? It seems rather uncommon and if that's an issue you might want to look into a better computer, not a controller.
Johnetta Olewine 21.02.2012	Some have a seperate analog mixer section that runs independent of the computer and software. e.g Denon MC6000
Madelene Witek 21.02.2012	Well, don't all controllers need a computer to actually work ahha? Sorry, I'm rather new to all this.
Joselyn Supina 21.02.2012	It does, however, it can't be used a stand alone mixer. If the computer goes dead, so does the S2.
Madelene Witek 21.02.2012	Originally Posted by photojojo Used S4 or an S2 with a used Audio 4 your soundcard. I thought the S2 had a built in soundcard?
Joselyn Supina 21.02.2012	I get what you're saying here...but I'm pretty sure a $5 cable will cover your needs. You're going to be going RCA or TRS cables out of the S2. Get a cable that is either TRS or RCA female connections on one end and mini male on the other that will plug into your ipod. http://www.cablestogo.com/product.as...latedItem=true http://www.cablestogo.com/product.as...=118&sku=40645
Johnetta Olewine 21.02.2012	You know all you would have to do in the case that your computer crashed is unplug the rca leads from the back of the s2, and use this adaptor to plug in your Ipod and press play. Its really not that big a deal if you ask me....
Leeanna Ayla 21.02.2012	Used S4 or an S2 with a used Audio 4 your soundcard.

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