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Best 4 Channel Midi Mixer Posted on: 12.02.2013 by Wilton Keuning Hey everyone, So I am in need of a 4 channel midi mixer mappable to Traktor. I need a level fader, 3 EQ knobs, a filter knob, a crossfader and a headphone cue button (this isn't 100% needed). My current idea is a K2 and a Novation Nocturn which I have no issue with, but having it all on one controller would be nice. I am aiming for modular so small would be nice, but also no a necessity. Lastly, PLEASE don't recommend the MM-1 from Behringer, this can't wait that long. Cheers, Prof.
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Alphonso Deitchman 14.02.2013	The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	DB4 has 4 digital ins, 5 lines (4 of which can be used as phono's), and 4 USB Soundcard ins. So I fail to see how you only have 4 inputs? When you can actually have 13. You can also have any of the inputs switched to any of the mixer channels at any time you want. So you can have the same source on 4 different channels each with a different effect, or filter, or EQ or EQ filter etc... There are ways around the Traktor Scratch, but as the OP doesn't need that anyway, it's moot. As for price, the DB4 is
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Alphonso Deitchman 14.02.2013	The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	DB4 has 4 digital ins, 5 lines (4 of which can be used as phono's), and 4 USB Soundcard ins. So I fail to see how you only have 4 inputs? When you can actually have 13. You can also have any of the inputs switched to any of the mixer channels at any time you want. So you can have the same source on 4 different channels each with a different effect, or filter, or EQ or EQ filter etc... There are ways around the Traktor Scratch, but as the OP doesn't need that anyway, it's moot. As for price, the DB4 is
Leota Dolney 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman Doesn't that card only work for Traktor Scratch with Timecodes? No...it works without timecode as well as a regular sound card....it makes cabling much simpler: 1 USB cable vs. 4 RCA stereo cables.
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Yes, that's the benefit of having a modern mixer You can do the same with the DJM 850 and Xone DB2 if you don't want to stretch the budget too far. The Pioneers benefit from being Traktor Scratch certified so will work with timecode CDs+turntables too. Well hot damn. I am for sure going for a 900 over the 850, I've been feature comparing for weeks now and the 900 is my dream mixer. Thank for all of your help guys! </thread>
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Strange - yes you can route 4 stereo channels through USB to the 900 or the DB4 Well shit son. So I could have that basically be my audio card AND mixer, use my controllers of choice for each deck, and have XLR out of the mixer and I'm set?
Alphonso Deitchman 14.02.2013	The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	DB4 has 4 digital ins, 5 lines (4 of which can be used as phono's), and 4 USB Soundcard ins. So I fail to see how you only have 4 inputs? When you can actually have 13. You can also have any of the inputs switched to any of the mixer channels at any time you want. So you can have the same source on 4 different channels each with a different effect, or filter, or EQ or EQ filter etc... There are ways around the Traktor Scratch, but as the OP doesn't need that anyway, it's moot. As for price, the DB4 is
Leota Dolney 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman Doesn't that card only work for Traktor Scratch with Timecodes? No...it works without timecode as well as a regular sound card....it makes cabling much simpler: 1 USB cable vs. 4 RCA stereo cables.
Merideth Garnder 14.02.2013	That would've been my choice....go 900NXS and never look back!!
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Alright everyone! Thanks for all the help, I'm ditching MIDI for my mixer completely and just going straight for the DJM-900NXS. You all have given me a great deal of help in this and once everything is here I'll be sure to show you all in the "Show Your Setup" thread! Cheers friends.
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	Double post
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Yes, that's the benefit of having a modern mixer You can do the same with the DJM 850 and Xone DB2 if you don't want to stretch the budget too far. The Pioneers benefit from being Traktor Scratch certified so will work with timecode CDs+turntables too. Well hot damn. I am for sure going for a 900 over the 850, I've been feature comparing for weeks now and the 900 is my dream mixer. Thank for all of your help guys! </thread>
Alphonso Deitchman 14.02.2013	Yes, that's the benefit of having a modern mixer You can do the same with the DJM 850 and Xone DB2 if you don't want to stretch the budget too far. The Pioneers benefit from being Traktor Scratch certified so will work with timecode CDs+turntables too.
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Strange - yes you can route 4 stereo channels through USB to the 900 or the DB4 Well shit son. So I could have that basically be my audio card AND mixer, use my controllers of choice for each deck, and have XLR out of the mixer and I'm set?
Alphonso Deitchman 14.02.2013	The Xone has 2 Lines, 2 Phono/Line, and 4 digital. The 900 has 6 Lines, 2 Phono, and 4 digital. So you can have a analogue line source connected to each channel, in addition to two turntables and two additional lines without having to reconnect things. No software is needed to choose between them. I'd rather have a Scratch mixer that can be plugged into any laptop with TSP and work straight away than rely on pirated cracks.. And I only paid
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	So xs2man, what you're saying is I can run that USB out of the DJM900 in to my lappy and I can use the mixer as if I had 4 pairs of RCA's going in to it?
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	DB4 has 4 digital ins, 5 lines (4 of which can be used as phono's), and 4 USB Soundcard ins. So I fail to see how you only have 4 inputs? When you can actually have 13. You can also have any of the inputs switched to any of the mixer channels at any time you want. So you can have the same source on 4 different channels each with a different effect, or filter, or EQ or EQ filter etc... There are ways around the Traktor Scratch, but as the OP doesn't need that anyway, it's moot. As for price, the DB4 is
Alphonso Deitchman 14.02.2013	Got my DJM900 for about 25% cheaper than the DB4 and it can send MIDI data from all controls too! And unlike the DB4, it actually has various inputs to choose from! I don't see why you need routing settings if you only have 4 inputs.. Integrated Traktor Scratch sound card is a nice plus
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	A soundcard is a soundcard when it comes to non-scratch soundcards. Well, until you get to quality issues. From Pioneer about the 900 Equipped with a USB sound card1 that can simultaneously input and output stereo sound from 4 input and 4 output terminals. The sound card supports signal processing at a high resolution of 24 bit/96 kHz and can input and output each audio signals without degrading quality. Furthermore, the setting utility tool2 for PCs makes it possible to change the output signal path from the mixer to accommodate various situations, including DJing, track recording, and other work. Furthermore, smooth transitions between DJs are possible thanks to the USB ports installed on the unit’s top surface. From Allen & Heath about DB4: Integral Soundcard A built-in, high quality (24-bit / 96kHz), multi-channel, fully patchable USB2 soundcard allows replay and recording from audio software for 4 stereo sends and 4 stereo returns. But ALSO: MIDI control All controls (except Mic and Phones level) send MIDI data and the mixer can double up as a MIDI controller via the MIDI shift button, allowing the Loop and FX selection controls to send MIDI data without changing the mixer settings. i.e. You can use the FX and Loop section as a midi controller on its own, while still using it as a proper 4 channel mixer. Mix Architekt's DB4 tsi allows you to control 4 Traktor decks straight from the mixer, so no need for controllers if you dont want them. http://www.traktorbible.com/freaks/m...ew.aspx?id=170 The DB4 can also change input / output routing of the sound card straight from the unit, rather than having to connect to a PC and use the utility tool. Awesome indeed. I did look at the DJM900 NXS before forking out for my DB4, but it just didn't offer enough of an upgrade over my DJM 800 to warrant the extra cost involved. The DB4 on the other hand, offers everything I was looking for in a mixer. If its good enough for Pete Tong, Sasha, John Digweed etc... it will surely be good enough for me.
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by xs2man The 900 NXS has a built in soundcard, so absolutely no need for you to get an external one. Doesn't that card only work for Traktor Scratch with Timecodes?
Tamela Batara 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman How else would I hook it up? I have no Time Codes or CDJs running HID. I use X1's for transport, MidiFighter Pros for Effects, and MF3Ds for Remix Decks. The 900 NXS has a built in soundcard, so absolutely no need for you to get an external one. You just route Traktor to output over USB to the 900, and set up the channels appropriately. Easy. Anyway, the best 4 channel MIDI mixer is the DB4, not the 900.
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by Elvebakk Why don
Justine Schipp 14.02.2013	Why don
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by 3heads And why is that? Are you sure you know what "TSP certified" means? I'd certainly recommend having an A4/6/8/10 at hand for playing out, but setting it up at home like you propose does not make much sense How else would I hook it up? I have no Time Codes or CDJs running HID. I use X1's for transport, MidiFighter Pros for Effects, and MF3Ds for Remix Decks.
Celestine Porebski 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman Yep! The way I'm using it though, I'll be using Traktor in external mode and have it go Traktor>USB>Audio 10>Decks 1-4 via RCA>Mixer>Main Out. And why is that? Are you sure you know what "TSP certified" means? I'd certainly recommend having an A4/6/8/10 at hand for playing out, but setting it up at home like you propose does not make much sense
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by Mike_08 Why are you ordering an A10 with the 900NXS? You know it's TSP certified right? Yep! The way I'm using it though, I'll be using Traktor in external mode and have it go Traktor>USB>Audio 10>Decks 1-4 via RCA>Mixer>Main Out.
Gaynell Rydberg 14.02.2013	Strangeman, if you ever do the Livid Brain Jr. lmk! I'm believeing about doing it as well just for fun. Love little projects like these.
Elmer Kindinger 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman this fall I'm going to order an Audio 10 and a DJM-900NXS Why are you ordering an A10 with the 900NXS? You know it's TSP certified right?
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by djproben If the M-Audio is too big for you, you want something really small. I'd look into those Faderfoxes or going custom. New Plan: It's called "Operation: Fuck Plan A". I am going with the K2 and Nocturn combo for now, and this fall I'm going to order an Audio 10 and a DJM-900NXS, and then possibly colab with Stew on a custom mixer when I don't want to use the DJM.
Danae Dumler 14.02.2013	If the M-Audio is too big for you, you want something really small. I'd look into those Faderfoxes or going custom.
Wilton Keuning 14.02.2013	Originally Posted by D-Kem M Audio X-Session pro is very cheap and almost has everything you need. Filter knob missing but could be mapped with a shift modifier. I did contemplate that one, it's a bit toyish feeling and much too big for what it really does.
Lauretta Ehrhorn 13.02.2013	M Audio X-Session pro is very cheap and almost has everything you need. Filter knob missing but could be mapped with a shift modifier.
Wilton Keuning 13.02.2013	Originally Posted by Stewe Sure, just create a sketch first so I could know what you're considering perfect for your needs. I will work on this. It might be a while as I have never used a 4 channel mixer before so I don't know exactly what I need, but I will PM you with some sketches once I have an idea.
Kellie Myrum 13.02.2013	Originally Posted by ProfessorStrangeman Oh great minister of mappings, would you like to aid a young electronics junkie in creating the world's first perfect midi 4 channel mixer? Sure, just create a sketch first so I could know what you're considering perfect for your needs.

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