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S4 or s2 Posted on: 28.02.2012 by Daine Ziadeh Im believeing of getting one of these dedicated controllers, what do you guys believe, get the s2 right away, or save a lilttle more till the s4? Im a 2 deck kinda guy, and if i wanted to trigger out samples or something i'd map them to my midi keyboard, seems like this answers the question, but i wanna hear something from you guys?
Spring Kolke 21.03.2012	Originally Posted by TeddyWhite if i have an audio 6 can i use 1200's as controllers with an s2 as my mixer? if I can use my audio 6 to hook cjs into the s2 i am going to sell my mixer today and buy it... WILL THIS WORK? will i just use my traktor kontrol discs for cdjs?
Johnetta Olewine 19.03.2012	Originally Posted by Larry Duu that looks sick man! deal ends the 31st so I am going to buy it this week ill keep in touch if you could help with how you mapped the x1 etc thatd be great for sure
Cyndi Grenz 20.03.2012	Originally Posted by DJAdamDaniel a lot of the stuff the S4 can do that the S2 cant can be added to the S2 with a non-standard map (filters, 4-deck, etc) S2 has booth output, S4 doesnt. S4 external inputs only work if laptop is running Do you mean I can control 4 decks on the S2??
Spring Kolke 19.03.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky I use an S2 with the x1 mapped to the sample deck slots to allow slot volume control, deck c/d cue, effects and filter. Its really quite good. that looks sick man! deal ends the 31st so I am going to buy it this week ill keep in touch if you could help with how you mapped the x1 etc thatd be great
Johnetta Olewine 17.03.2012	Originally Posted by Larry Duu I have an x1 already.... I am looking to get either an s2 or s4 just like everyone else here could I save the money for the f1 thats coming out by just getting the more compact s2 and pairing that with my x1?? Hope that made sense but I am itching to buy one of these soon as pool party season is coming!!! I use an S2 with the x1 mapped to the sample deck slots to allow slot volume control, deck c/d cue, effects and filter. Its really quite good.
Cyndi Grenz 22.03.2012	yes sir, Scratch upgrade it's need to use timecodes.
Johnetta Olewine 21.03.2012	from all reports 2 timecode TTs do work with the s2 if its all hooked up via a a4,6,8,10... I would assume you would need to have purchased a traktor scratch upgrade too
Laci Billingham 21.03.2012	im really curious to see if this works would love to be able to use an s2 as an internal mixer with two 1200s to control the two decks instead of having to use the jogwheels
Cyndi Grenz 21.03.2012	You can use it in that way. But you will need traktor working at the same time that the CDJs, Maybe some can explain it better?
Spring Kolke 21.03.2012	Originally Posted by TeddyWhite if i have an audio 6 can i use 1200's as controllers with an s2 as my mixer? if I can use my audio 6 to hook cjs into the s2 i am going to sell my mixer today and buy it... WILL THIS WORK? will i just use my traktor kontrol discs for cdjs?
Cira Ditz 21.03.2012	Well, had to get one as playing a festival at the beginning of next month, so decided to go for the S4. Love it - though tbh I believe the S2 would also have been good. But am glad to have those extra buttons and faders to play with. Interesting to see how good/notgood it works with the upcoming 2.5 release - but am loving it today so am happpy (and hungry as splurged everything -roll on payday)
Laci Billingham 21.03.2012	if i have an audio 6 can i use 1200's as controllers with an s2 as my mixer?
Cyndi Grenz 19.03.2012	So here goes my question: Can I map the sync to swap from deck A to C and from deck B to D ??
Johnetta Olewine 19.03.2012	Originally Posted by Larry Duu that looks sick man! deal ends the 31st so I am going to buy it this week ill keep in touch if you could help with how you mapped the x1 etc thatd be great for sure
Ricki Markman 19.03.2012	Yep
Cyndi Grenz 20.03.2012	Originally Posted by DJAdamDaniel a lot of the stuff the S4 can do that the S2 cant can be added to the S2 with a non-standard map (filters, 4-deck, etc) S2 has booth output, S4 doesnt. S4 external inputs only work if laptop is running Do you mean I can control 4 decks on the S2??
Spring Kolke 19.03.2012	Originally Posted by oliosky I use an S2 with the x1 mapped to the sample deck slots to allow slot volume control, deck c/d cue, effects and filter. Its really quite good. that looks sick man! deal ends the 31st so I am going to buy it this week ill keep in touch if you could help with how you mapped the x1 etc thatd be great
Dominique Caughill 19.03.2012	Good stuff, I came on here to ask exactly the same question. Dog bless DJ Techtools and all that sail in her.
Johnetta Olewine 17.03.2012	Originally Posted by Larry Duu I have an x1 already.... I am looking to get either an s2 or s4 just like everyone else here could I save the money for the f1 thats coming out by just getting the more compact s2 and pairing that with my x1?? Hope that made sense but I am itching to buy one of these soon as pool party season is coming!!! I use an S2 with the x1 mapped to the sample deck slots to allow slot volume control, deck c/d cue, effects and filter. Its really quite good.
Sally Walkowiak 17.03.2012	I'm in the same boat, and I've decided to go with an S2 and Midi Fighter Pro.
Spring Kolke 15.03.2012	Originally Posted by Jane Hi everyone - I just joined the community and read with great interest this particular thread. I've been a DJ for many years and been using Traktor Pro2 with my Numark Omni for about a year now and love it. Just recent;y got the Traktor2 Bible and just getting to grips with all in there, but still early days just yet. What I've also been doing is saving up for an S4, as the various 4 channel faders/loop recorder/filter knobs really appealled. had in mind a 2 deck/2sample deck set up and using lots of effects and triggered samples But having read tthrough this, am now wondering if maybe the S2 maybe a better option (especially as some of you've created maps that can do what the S4 is capable of) - and the obvious price saving on the current offer. Have just this minute also been reading about the upcoming F1 which also looks really great for how I want to progress with my DJing. So what was hoping to ask all you guys whop've already used the S4 and S2s (and prob have a good idea how the F1's will work alongside), but should I go for an S2/F1 combination and be able to achieve all an S4 can do (or more), or should I get the S4 ? to be honest, I never really considered the S2 before as thought it might not be any more flexable than my Numark Omni - so I guess my other question would be, should I just stick with the Numark and get a couple of F1's (or even an X1 as well?) Hope you can help - am a bit confused with te new options and don't want to miss out on the S2 price offer if I do go for that one. Cheers for any advice couldnt have asked it better my friend I have a korg zero 4 and cdjs with an x1 that i use scratch duo 2... I NEED TO GO DIGITAL!! Ideally i would like to map the s2 accordingly, use my x1 AND pick up an f1.... will this all work together if so I will be ordering this weekend!
Spring Kolke 16.03.2012	Originally Posted by guiltyblade honestly with the savings you can buy a x1 along side and still have $ left over. I prefer the S2, it compact, does basically everything the S4 does. I have an x1 already.... I am looking to get either an s2 or s4 just like everyone else here could I save the money for the f1 thats coming out by just getting the more compact s2 and pairing that with my x1?? Hope that made sense but I am itching to buy one of these soon as pool party season is coming!!!
Chong Prestwich 14.03.2012	i've used both s2 and s4 and wend for s2, will put the savings towards an ipad as jiggles map will allow you to use the ipad as an extra controller for fx etc (iirc).
Cira Ditz 14.03.2012	Hi everyone - I just joined the community and read with great interest this particular thread. I've been a DJ for many years and been using Traktor Pro2 with my Numark Omni for about a year now and love it. Just recent;y got the Traktor2 Bible and just getting to grips with all in there, but still early days just yet. What I've also been doing is saving up for an S4, as the various 4 channel faders/loop recorder/filter knobs really appealled. had in mind a 2 deck/2sample deck set up and using lots of effects and triggered samples But having read tthrough this, am now wondering if maybe the S2 maybe a better option (especially as some of you've created maps that can do what the S4 is capable of) - and the obvious price saving on the current offer. Have just this minute also been reading about the upcoming F1 which also looks really great for how I want to progress with my DJing. So what was hoping to ask all you guys whop've already used the S4 and S2s (and prob have a good idea how the F1's will work alongside), but should I go for an S2/F1 combination and be able to achieve all an S4 can do (or more), or should I get the S4 ? to be honest, I never really considered the S2 before as thought it might not be any more flexable than my Numark Omni - so I guess my other question would be, should I just stick with the Numark and get a couple of F1's (or even an X1 as well?) Hope you can help - am a bit confused with te new options and don't want to miss out on the S2 price offer if I do go for that one. Cheers for any advice
Leota Declercq 13.03.2012	+1 on jiggle I have his map and it is fricken awesome. No need for an s4
Alla Bluemke 12.03.2012	Originally Posted by JMo One thing to note though since there is no input you won't have a back up in case your laptop goes down. But I am not sure what happens if the laptop crashes with the S4? I would assume you lose your input as well... I am not sure why people keep mentioning the filter button. In the settings menu you can change the gain to be the filter and then shift-gain to use the gain as normal... One thing though I am skeptical of is the upcoming new release of traktor...I hope...and doubt it doesnt make the S2 less useable...I don't believe so though. Would have loved the S4...but in the end does not suit my DJing style. The S2 will be great for smaller gigs and bringing with to the cottage in the summer J-Mo If the comp crashes on an S4 it still dies if you do live inputs regardless. The comp has to attached and working for live inputs to work. Honestly the only way an S4 is worth it is if you are using it for the time code as well. Even then you can buy an S2 and a Audio 6 for the same amount and have timecode. I can see why people don't like having dedicated filter without notches, but you can also just map the filter to one of the effects knobs. Pretty easy. I have my filter mapped to my X1, and an instant grat on the lower pad. Its perfect.
Ricki Markman 12.03.2012	Originally Posted by guiltyblade honestly with the savings you can buy a x1 along side and still have $ left over. I prefer the S2, it compact, does basically everything the S4 does. With the savings you could buy a second S2 haha
Elidia Elejalde 12.03.2012	I recently made the decision to purchase the S2. I am a mobile DJ and here were some of my reasons... - S2 is small and can be easily carried in a bag. I bought a DJ Fusion Workstation bag...and it holds a whole lot o stuff! - S2 price point is very good at $449. At $649 would be a tough sell when compared to the S4. - I already own an Audio 6 card and thus can use my CDTT or Technics along side the S2 using the Audio6 as the audio interface. - I already own an X1 so is perfect along side the S2 for better sample control. - I rarely DJ with 4 decks. One thing to note though since there is no input you won't have a back up in case your laptop goes down. But I am not sure what happens if the laptop crashes with the S4? I would assume you lose your input as well... I am not sure why people keep mentioning the filter button. In the settings menu you can change the gain to be the filter and then shift-gain to use the gain as normal... One thing though I am skeptical of is the upcoming new release of traktor...I hope...and doubt it doesnt make the S2 less useable...I don't believe so though. Would have loved the S4...but in the end does not suit my DJing style. The S2 will be great for smaller gigs and bringing with to the cottage in the summer J-Mo
Alla Bluemke 12.03.2012	honestly with the savings you can buy a x1 along side and still have $ left over. I prefer the S2, it compact, does basically everything the S4 does.
Desirae Farnes 11.03.2012	Originally Posted by rsciangula I saved for the s4 and I'm glad I did. (mainly because I use external decks sometimes) differences from the s4. Lacks control over effects units 3 and 4. Loop recorder control gone. The filter knobs are gone. Ability to switch decks (platters and faders). Loop length indicators. Cue points 5-8. Phono inputs (for DVS control). Hooking up external decks in nice. The price is a lot cheaper though and may justify buying it over the s4. I understand that the S4 allows DVS control, can you play regular vinyl through the S4 by switching the decks to live input? I'm believeing about streamlining my setup and abandoning my mixer, but I would still like the option to play regular vinyl
Geri Jarra 11.03.2012	always an interesting topic. I went though the same thing. in the end I went with the S4, and personally, Im glad I did. at a gig, I would be fine with a S2 because I like to keep it simple and use the sample decks much less. The filter knobs during gigs are clutch though. It would be hard for me to let them go. the reason I say Im happy with the S4, is because when I bedroom DJ or play for friends I like to push the S4 to its limits and use virtually everything it offers. I would feel too limited with the S2. In the end the only drawbacks to the S4 are the size and the price. Obviously if you can use the money you save to buy another controller with the S2, you could easily compromise the lost features. Honestly the only reason I dont use the DJTT S4 map is because of the Loop indicator issue. Thats not a problem with the S2. Add an x1 or MF Pro and I'm sure you could do more than the S4. just my thoughts, hope it helped A poll on this topic would be cool.. if there isn't one already out there
Chong Prestwich 03.03.2012	Originally Posted by Jiggle If you want to use cdj's or decks you'l need an input, the s4 has 4 I believe, the s2 only has outputs (but can be used with ni audio interfaces) The S4 only has a master out, the S2 has master and booth out, basically you can set the level of the booth out separate from the master out yeah you can plug CDJs into an S4 but they only work when laptop is running. Better off using S2 and plug that and CDJs into a mixer (if yo uhave CDJs you probably have a mixer already anyway) If you dont own CDJs at home but wanna switch between them and the S2 when playing in a club just plus S2 into a spare channel in the club's mixer. You'll have to use the mixer's headphone out instead of the S2's when mixing between CDJ and S2 but that's no biggie (I take 2 pairs of headphones to a gig anyway) then use the money you save to get an fx pad, new headphones whatever
Kami Sawan 02.03.2012	My s2 has filters, it comes with the DJ TECH TOOLS MAPPING.
Valeri Babiak 02.03.2012	Just got an S2 today, headed home from work in a minute to hook it up. Im hoping to use it in my set toevening !! Its 4pm here in the UK so i have time to practice with it before my set at 10 Agree with the arguements for it. Carry weight and size is a massive issue as i play in many bars and small clubs with tiny booths. You get filters on the effects units so i dont see a problem there at all!!! And as you guys have said, map it up to your needs
Jarod Perrodin 29.02.2012	Yeah, you can with the s2 and an audio 4/6/8/10 as well. It will mix through traktor, You cant use them without a computer attached.
Daine Ziadeh 29.02.2012	So you're saying you can use the S4 as the mixer with 2 cdj's?
Jarod Perrodin 29.02.2012	If you want to use cdj's or decks you'l need an input, the s4 has 4 I believe, the s2 only has outputs (but can be used with ni audio interfaces) The S4 only has a master out, the S2 has master and booth out, basically you can set the level of the booth out separate from the master out
Daine Ziadeh 29.02.2012	Can you explain me what's this inputs on the S4 and the Booth out on the S2 used for? like, what do i plug into this?
Francina Decosse 29.02.2012	+1 on Jiggle unless you don't need the inputs of the S4, S2 is fine. And the cost diff is worthed, especially with the new NI deal. I love my S4, but i'll be just fine with S2
Daine Ziadeh 29.02.2012	Originally Posted by Jiggle I was going to post in here last evening , the only real difference the s4 has inputs and a loop length indicator. The S2 is easier to travel with, has a booth out, same software, much better price The S2 can control everything the the S4 can, just add a map. The S2 map I make has more controls than an S4. The S2 makes more sense to me, you still have control over the sample decks, and with the new controller from ni coming out soon, we wont be using the s2 or s4 for the sample decks. The money you save will buy the new controller I do like the S4, but I went with the S2 I'll go with the S2 for reasons listed in this community s, seems like i can do whatever the S4 can with my S2 and some extra mappings. Plus saving like 400$ more is going to be hell of a long time. BTW: believe i could have this mappings you use for your S2?

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