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what "type" volumeslider vci
Posted on: 06.12.2008 by DJ Pablo
Does anyone know what type of volume slider is in the VCI,
and where to get it?
DJ Pablo
17.02.2009
Originally Posted by claudek
I know the sizes are different ..just want that smooth feel.
I wonder if these Bourne Sliders have the same connections areas than the ones that are on there now...so it would be an easy change.Like same power, etc..
Maybe you can do some research yourself on mouser.com
DJ Pablo
17.02.2009
Originally Posted by claudek
Cool..what do you mean by this? Do you mean faders are different on
the VCI-100B?
Are they easy to change? I want to change the pitch the most as hate the indent. I want to order the exact slider style that is on my VCI-300..they are smooth as butter.. I am no soldering expert, but hardest part will be where to solder the right charges for connections unless the ports are the same.
No,faders are the same on vci.I was referring to the shape and lenght of the
lever.otherwise the knob wont fit.
MadMan Ajms
17.02.2009
Originally Posted by Anthony More
I added one volumefader in my mod.
It has the same lever as the vestax'.(lever end style 'B')
and all specs are similar.(mounting holes etc.)
http://nl.mouser.com/Search/ProductD...E60-151B-103B2
Cool..what do you mean by this? Do you mean faders are different on
the VCI-100B?
Are they easy to change? I want to change the pitch the most as hate the indent. I want to order the exact slider style that is on my VCI-300..they are smooth as butter.. I am no soldering expert, but hardest part will be where to solder the right charges for connections unless the ports are the same.
DJ Pablo
14.12.2008
Originally Posted by a number 66
which resistence does the pitchfader and the crossfader have??
where can i get that information?
greetings
Here is a link to the manfacturer (Alpha Taiwan) of the sliders in the VCI

http://www.taiwanalpha.com/english/p_e_105.htm
DJ Pablo
17.02.2009
Originally Posted by claudek
I know the sizes are different ..just want that smooth feel.
I wonder if these Bourne Sliders have the same connections areas than the ones that are on there now...so it would be an easy change.Like same power, etc..
Maybe you can do some research yourself on mouser.com
MadMan Ajms
17.02.2009		I know the sizes are different ..just want that smooth feel.
I wonder if these Bourne Sliders have the same connections areas than the ones that are on there now...so it would be an easy change.Like same power, etc..
DJ Pablo
17.02.2009
Originally Posted by claudek
Cool..what do you mean by this? Do you mean faders are different on
the VCI-100B?
Are they easy to change? I want to change the pitch the most as hate the indent. I want to order the exact slider style that is on my VCI-300..they are smooth as butter.. I am no soldering expert, but hardest part will be where to solder the right charges for connections unless the ports are the same.
No,faders are the same on vci.I was referring to the shape and lenght of the
lever.otherwise the knob wont fit.
MadMan Ajms
17.02.2009		Let me know if you upgrade the pitch faders and how they work? I love your blue led work too..Love to try this, but maybe was hard and risky?
MadMan Ajms
17.02.2009
Originally Posted by Anthony More
I added one volumefader in my mod.
It has the same lever as the vestax'.(lever end style 'B')
and all specs are similar.(mounting holes etc.)
http://nl.mouser.com/Search/ProductD...E60-151B-103B2
Cool..what do you mean by this? Do you mean faders are different on
the VCI-100B?
Are they easy to change? I want to change the pitch the most as hate the indent. I want to order the exact slider style that is on my VCI-300..they are smooth as butter.. I am no soldering expert, but hardest part will be where to solder the right charges for connections unless the ports are the same.
DJ Pablo
16.02.2009		I added one volumefader in my mod.
Here is a link to the manfacturer (Alpha Taiwan) of the Volume sliders in the VCI
http://www.taiwanalpha.com/english/p_e_105.htm
But you can't get them anywhere.
For replacement I can highly recommend this one;PTE60-151B-103B2 from Bourns.
It has the same lever as the vestax'.(lever end style 'B')
and all specs are similar.(mounting holes etc.)
http://nl.mouser.com/Search/ProductD...E60-151B-103B2
MadMan Ajms
16.02.2009		I would really like to change the pitch faders to one's without an indent. Anyone tried this?
Betsy Cothron
15.12.2008		thy very much!
This does make everything a bit easier
DJ Pablo
14.12.2008
Originally Posted by a number 66
which resistence does the pitchfader and the crossfader have??
where can i get that information?
greetings
Here is a link to the manfacturer (Alpha Taiwan) of the sliders in the VCI

http://www.taiwanalpha.com/english/p_e_105.htm
Betsy Cothron
14.12.2008		maybe that's the only way to find out about that..
a circuit diagramm would be useful as well
well, a false resisitsence could damage the cpu of the device.. huh
but isn't there any simple fader, which is a bit longer as the built-in fader and which would fit (not phy. of course!) ?
any suggestions?
Adolf Hit
14.12.2008		Use a multi-meter, you should really buy one if you are considering any electronics work.
Betsy Cothron
14.12.2008		which resistence does the pitchfader and the crossfader have??
where can i get that information?
greetings
DJ Pablo
11.12.2008
Originally Posted by sgb

But since you are interested in the 'stiffness' of the fader, its possible that the stiffness is a result of the lubricants used in the fader itself. If you open up the fader and strip down the lubricants with a cleaner, you can apply a more appropriate lubricant to the rails of the fader and the PCB.
I was only investigating what sort of fader I could put in the vci,
but anyways thanks for reply..
Elia Ajram
11.12.2008
Originally Posted by paddydj
The only thing you have to keep in mind is that it has to be a VCA fader. It should have the same length and a similar height so that it fits in the vci-100.
From what I understand, VCA = Voltage Controlled Amplifier, but Paddy's description is right on. Basically, the fader presents a resistance to an amplifier, which controls the amount of audio it lets through. VCA's were primarily implemented to allow curve control for scratch dj's.

However, you can put any fader into the VCI-100 you want, so long as it matches the resistance of the fader in the VCI-100 (and you can physically fit it in).

But since you are interested in the 'stiffness' of the fader, its possible that the stiffness is a result of the lubricants used in the fader itself. If you open up the fader and strip down the lubricants with a cleaner, you can apply a more appropriate lubricant to the rails of the fader and the PCB.
DJ Pablo
10.12.2008		I opened up my vci and took out the volume slider,
It seems to be an "Alpha" made in Taiwan.
Lenght of the Housing is apr. 87mm.
and the lenght that it slides is 72mm.

If I replace the slider with a 100mm fader (of course I make more room
for it),Do I have then a smoother volume control because the fader has a
longer way?
DJ Pablo
10.12.2008		thank you Paddy for explaining that to me
William Kelley
10.12.2008		VCA faders, in analog mixers for example, have another principle to work than older faders. They do not manipulate the sound directly. In older mixers the sound would go trough the crossfader directly. VCA faders only send 'their position' to an amplifier section of the mixer, which will then affect the volume relation between two or more decks.

In the case of the VCI-100, the CPU of the device is the amplifier section, like in the analog mixer, which receives the signal of the crossfader and converts it from an analog signal to midi data. And the line faders work the same way as the crossfader.
DJ Pablo
09.12.2008
Originally Posted by paddydj
The only thing you have to keep in mind is that it has to be a VCA fader. It should have the same length and a similar height so that it fits in the vci-100.
I've tried the Pro X Fade and it would work as a line fader in the vci-100 too.

I don't know if there is a way to get the original line faders. But anyways, the original ones are a bit stiff for my likings. So maybe you can find others that are actually better than the originals.
Thank you for your response.
But What exactly is a VCA-Fader?
Xavier Emanuels
07.12.2008		Cheers for that into Paddy, i didnt realise they could also be used as line faders.
William Kelley
07.12.2008
Originally Posted by Anthony More
Does anyone know what type of volume slider is in the VCI,
and where to get it?
The only thing you have to keep in mind is that it has to be a VCA fader. It should have the same length and a similar height so that it fits in the vci-100.
I've tried the Pro X Fade and it would work as a line fader in the vci-100 too.

I don't know if there is a way to get the original line faders. But anyways, the original ones are a bit stiff for my likings. So maybe you can find others that are actually better than the originals.

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