Proper Way to Paint Jog Wheels

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Proper Way to Paint Jog Wheels
Posted on: 24.10.2008 by Jose Rodriguez
Hello everyone, I have had a ton of questions answered graciously on this board and I first want to thank everyone again.

Now on to my question. I will be getting in my Black Japan VCI-100 soon, and I believe I am going to want to take off the paint that says USB Midi Controller and then paint or put a sticker on. (which will be in white)

Now, one thing I am getting confused about is how these jog wheels work; Do the plates need to conduct to touch? So a sticker would stop that from happening I would imagine if this is true? If I do have to use paint, what brand and type?

I was believeing of making a stencil and then maybe place it on top and use spray paint? Really not sure so any and all suggestions are welcome.

Thanks again
Reg
Heidi Alred
20.10.2009
Originally Posted by DvlsAdvct
Definitely sand them down. I sanded them down and just put a coat on them. I actually want to repaint them now.
Cool, thx. How come? Paint not holding up? And what grit sandpaper did you use?
Bernardo Hallman
20.10.2009
Originally Posted by BentoSan
They actually work on static electricity which can be picked up though a every thin layer, you need to crank your sensitivity settings right up though, so i wouldnt call it ideal, but it is doable - just be very wary of the thickness of the material/paint you put on there.

Id still recommend conductive paint for failproof results though.
Sorry just got believeing about how they work.
I'm assuming the jog wheels actually work based on a variable capacitance bridge circuit. Meaning, the 2 adjustment pots on the back change the amount of resistance allowed to a "standard" capacitance capacitor. On the other half of the circuit is the jog wheel which acts as the "unknown" capacitance capacitor. When you place your fingers on it the capacitance increases. it should have a zener diode connected on that side. When the breakdown voltage exceeds nominal the diode will conduct to maybe a signal amplifier then to either a gate or the IC as a signal. Here's a simple bridge circuit i found; didn't find one with a zener diode or gate; but my curiosity on exactly how it works is killing me!


btw, in theory if the paint is too thick i would imagine you can compensate by readjusting the 2 sensitivity pots on the back.
Heidi Alred
20.10.2009
Originally Posted by Abyrne7
Check it. 2 good coates and its good as gold.
sorry to bring up an old thread, but I'm believeing of doing this myself and was wondering if you sanded them down first or just sprayed on top of the existing paint? Thanks
Zana Crognale
06.09.2009
Originally Posted by kaleaf
You could get some of those jog stickers.
+1

http://www.motted.com/gbu0-display/C...mats_Home.html

plus if they get old for your taste you can remove them easily, it will be more frustrating with the paint when you want to change those. Painting over and over again creating multiple layers could potentially cause issues through time...
Heidi Alred
20.10.2009
Originally Posted by DvlsAdvct
Definitely sand them down. I sanded them down and just put a coat on them. I actually want to repaint them now.
Cool, thx. How come? Paint not holding up? And what grit sandpaper did you use?
Bernardo Hallman
20.10.2009
Originally Posted by BentoSan
They actually work on static electricity which can be picked up though a every thin layer, you need to crank your sensitivity settings right up though, so i wouldnt call it ideal, but it is doable - just be very wary of the thickness of the material/paint you put on there.

Id still recommend conductive paint for failproof results though.
Sorry just got believeing about how they work.
I'm assuming the jog wheels actually work based on a variable capacitance bridge circuit. Meaning, the 2 adjustment pots on the back change the amount of resistance allowed to a "standard" capacitance capacitor. On the other half of the circuit is the jog wheel which acts as the "unknown" capacitance capacitor. When you place your fingers on it the capacitance increases. it should have a zener diode connected on that side. When the breakdown voltage exceeds nominal the diode will conduct to maybe a signal amplifier then to either a gate or the IC as a signal. Here's a simple bridge circuit i found; didn't find one with a zener diode or gate; but my curiosity on exactly how it works is killing me!


btw, in theory if the paint is too thick i would imagine you can compensate by readjusting the 2 sensitivity pots on the back.
Roberto Viccione
20.10.2009
Definitely sand them down. I sanded them down and just put a coat on them. I actually want to repaint them now.
Heidi Alred
20.10.2009
Originally Posted by Abyrne7
Check it. 2 good coates and its good as gold.
sorry to bring up an old thread, but I'm believeing of doing this myself and was wondering if you sanded them down first or just sprayed on top of the existing paint? Thanks
Mac Fly
09.09.2009
Check it. 2 good coates and its good as gold.
Latia Pfleider
08.09.2009
you should call it threadmashing
Xavier Emanuels
07.09.2009
Merged these jog wheel painting threads into 1 post
Zana Crognale
06.09.2009
also take this thread into consideration when painting...

http://djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=6975
Zana Crognale
06.09.2009
Originally Posted by kaleaf
You could get some of those jog stickers.
+1

http://www.motted.com/gbu0-display/C...mats_Home.html

plus if they get old for your taste you can remove them easily, it will be more frustrating with the paint when you want to change those. Painting over and over again creating multiple layers could potentially cause issues through time...
Zandra Zurcher
01.09.2009
I painted my wheels with black spray paint. About three good coats and no issues at all.
Jami Krampe
30.08.2009
Waiting for some feedback to do the thing mate
Latoria Kavulich
30.08.2009
Hey buddy. Cool idea but i believe practically this may be a problem. I believe under the uv the wheels would show up very bright and could quite possibly make it difficult to see your other controls maybe... dunno. I'm a uv fiend from way back but i wouldn't wanna do this myself. If you go for it post some pics so we can see how they look dude ;p
Jami Krampe
30.08.2009
What do you believe of that???
Latia Pfleider
30.08.2009
You could get some of those jog stickers.
Sharolyn Narramore
30.08.2009
A couple coats wouldnt hurt the sensitivity of the jog wheels. Just dont over do it and you should be good.
Mac Fly
29.08.2009
I've been believeing about painting my jog wheels on my vci 100 se recently. I have all black knobs and faders and I believe it will look pretty cool. I've searched these community s and people said that I can just take the plates off and give them a couple of coats and that will be fine? Also I would like an honest anwser from people who actually painted them. Does it look tackie at all? Shoould I just keep them silver?

I bought some flat black tremclad paint I figured that would be good enough.

So should I do it? If so, some good advice from people who already accomplished this would be helpful.
Jose Rodriguez
31.10.2008
Can you guys tell me...is there a way to take off the white paint on the jog wheel that says USB Midi Controller with out sanding? For instance, paint thinner/remover? If I have to sand, do I use fine sand paper and do it by hand, use a sander? I really don't want to make a hack job out of this, I want to keep it looking smooth and professional Also, if you can tell me what brand paint to use and where I can find it. Am I using Spray paint? Any help in this dept would be great.'

Thanks again
Reg
remy deroche
29.10.2008
sanded them then did 3 coats of tremclad. did the the underside edges and all the openings on the faceplate as well so no silver would show thru the new overlay.
Xavier Emanuels
26.10.2008
Originally Posted by Sheph
I have my jog wheels covered with a vinyl sticker. it's not conductive and the jog wheels work just fine. I'm not sure how the jog wheels work, but it's not direct electro-conductivity.

S.
They actually work on static electricity which can be picked up though a every thin layer, you need to crank your sensitivity settings right up though, so i wouldnt call it ideal, but it is doable - just be very wary of the thickness of the material/paint you put on there.

Id still recommend conductive paint for failproof results though.
DJ Strutzip
26.10.2008
I have my jog wheels covered with a vinyl sticker. it's not conductive and the jog wheels work just fine. I'm not sure how the jog wheels work, but it's not direct electro-conductivity.

S.
Xavier Emanuels
24.10.2008
You need to paint your jog wheels in electrical conductive paint, and yes a sticker would stop that from happening.

Your best bet for really good looking stencils is to get vinyl cut at a printing shop, stick it on your device and use that as a stencil.

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