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Building a custom console...NEED HELP
Posted on: 12.09.2009 by Delphine Mauser
OK here's my current set up. MacBookPro, APC40, KorgNanoKontrol, Novation ReMOTE, Turntable, and underneath there is an Alesis IO 26. Mounted on a custom console for easy set up, plug and play. I have one power chord and 2 Audio chords to plug in and it's ON! The reason I dont just put the Novation next to the APC40 is because I like the small size of this console.





I want to either dismatle the Novation and use it's parts plus some extras, OR just create all of these as you guys have been doing with some of your Mods.

something like this would be my Goal. With the keays on a pull out tray stowed underneath the APC40.





I know I need some Arcade buttons, my soldering kit, etc.

This is an ambitious first Mod for sure. So I have a few questions.

1. Is it possible to start simple by adding just the arcade buttons, and later adding the Fader and knob controls to the left, and later adding the 4x4 monome style button below.

How should I begin, when it comes to planning upgrades?

2. Should I try using parts from the Novation or is that a lost cause. Or is it easier to start elsewhere?

Heres pics of the Guts.




3. SparkFun looks like it has lots of great stuff, what should I be looking into getting from there? Arduino Boards? I saw a bunch of stuff earlier today but cant recall the exact name, something like EMCU33.

Anyways you get the idea, I need some guidence. I'm patient and willing to pull this off.

THANKS
Delphine Mauser
25.09.2009
Originally Posted by Str8upDrew
Here's what I would do:
Use MEC Switches/Buttons, the multimec is amazing, here's a link to the switch catalog,

http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20...%20Catalog.pdf

Use these pots:
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a...IOMETER/1.html

Hunt down some Knobs you like.

Buid it up on a midibox. 1 core, 1 ain, 1 din, 1 dout.
If you don't feel like using the midibox, i can suggest a few other options; but most are more expensive, and none have the support community that the Midibox has.

AWESOME thanks for the INFO! I will be using the MidiBox
Delphine Mauser
12.09.2009
OK here's my current set up. MacBookPro, APC40, KorgNanoKontrol, Novation ReMOTE, Turntable, and underneath there is an Alesis IO 26. Mounted on a custom console for easy set up, plug and play. I have one power chord and 2 Audio chords to plug in and it's ON! The reason I dont just put the Novation next to the APC40 is because I like the small size of this console.





I want to either dismatle the Novation and use it's parts plus some extras, OR just create all of these as you guys have been doing with some of your Mods.

something like this would be my Goal. With the keays on a pull out tray stowed underneath the APC40.





I know I need some Arcade buttons, my soldering kit, etc.

This is an ambitious first Mod for sure. So I have a few questions.

1. Is it possible to start simple by adding just the arcade buttons, and later adding the Fader and knob controls to the left, and later adding the 4x4 monome style button below.

How should I begin, when it comes to planning upgrades?

2. Should I try using parts from the Novation or is that a lost cause. Or is it easier to start elsewhere?

Heres pics of the Guts.




3. SparkFun looks like it has lots of great stuff, what should I be looking into getting from there? Arduino Boards? I saw a bunch of stuff earlier today but cant recall the exact name, something like EMCU33.

Anyways you get the idea, I need some guidence. I'm patient and willing to pull this off.

THANKS
Sharolyn Narramore
23.11.2009
just get a wall wart that supplies 9v. and then a socket. Mouser.com is where i got my supply. The socket i got from curiousinventer.com

BTW there is no polarity when you hook the socket to the core module. so dont worry about that. I spent a good hour searching for that answer lol.
Delphine Mauser
23.11.2009
OK, thanks.

I am making a shopping list for some other things I need. What I dont really understand is the Power Supply. Are they referring to like a 9v wall plug or something? Or is it something else?

Sounds silly, but I feel like I don't get the "power supply" part.
Sharolyn Narramore
23.11.2009
hmm, i never had an lcd, so i cant help you out there.I would go on the midibox community and do a search. Thats how i got most of my information.
Delphine Mauser
23.11.2009
Thanks MAN!

The only thing I didn't get, and having a hard time deciding on is the LCD screen. I have seen a bunch of different ones and read WAY more than I actually understand about them.

Any thoughts on an LCD? I really dont need anything elaborate, but it would be nice to eventually have a visual feedback like I get with my Novation.
Sharolyn Narramore
23.11.2009
yeah, i had to wait close to 2 monthes for mine. I bought 2 kits just in case.

The information is spread out and its really is a wormhole, you can end up going in a loop for a while lol.

If you need help soldering the cores. http://www.avishowtech.com/mbhp/info.html is the best place to look. Just go to the module you need and it'll show the schematics. If you need anything else you just shoot me a pm.
Delphine Mauser
23.11.2009
I finally got my Core 32 Kit, 2 AIN Kits, 2 DIN kits, and 2 DOUT kits from avishowtech.

SHEESH it took over a month to get it. I was worried for a bit. I wrote the guy a couple emails and NO RESPONSE??? Eventually I got an email saying the stuff had shipped.

So now I am back on the grind, gonna build this prioject.

Seems like I get lost everytime I go to some of these web sites. MidiBox, ucapps, etc. It's like a wormhole of information.

What I really need help with is a good video guide or something instructional on putting all these parts together. Any pointers would be great!
Latia Pfleider
16.10.2009
I wanted to bump this because we did not hear back from SOLO, he might have got the wrong part


also juanSOLO see my post on your thread at midibox community about parts
Sharolyn Narramore
12.10.2009
you should get a regular core kit as kaleaf said. You wont need a specific pic since you are only using one core module also leave the header blank. Your project looks great, where did you order your parts btw? I ordered mine from avishowtech and its been more then a month since he has some stuff backordered.
Latia Pfleider
12.10.2009
Yo JuanSOLO, the core32 only has software for the sequencer project I just read this thread or I would have let you know sooner

http://www.midibox.org/community /index.p...&topic=14154.0


you should get a pic core (I dont know what pic)

if you get stuck with a core32 I would say practice soldering on it.
Delphine Mauser
07.10.2009
Got my Arcade buttons today!!!

Now I am waiting on a Core32 Board and Parts, 2 AIN, 2DIN, and 2 DOUT.

Tomorrow I will be ordering pots and buttons.

Thanks for the help so far. I'm sure I will be bugging some of you guys a lot more when I get all my parts in and my Console half built.
Graham Frazier
26.09.2009
No problem. If you need any help, feel free to ask. I've been super busy lately and it doesn't seem to be slowing down(on top of everything i've got going on, my brother just had his frist son yesterday).
But i'm always willing to help when i can. But i apologize in advance if i seem to take a long time.
Delphine Mauser
25.09.2009
Originally Posted by Str8upDrew
Here's what I would do:
Use MEC Switches/Buttons, the multimec is amazing, here's a link to the switch catalog,

http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20...%20Catalog.pdf

Use these pots:
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a...IOMETER/1.html

Hunt down some Knobs you like.

Buid it up on a midibox. 1 core, 1 ain, 1 din, 1 dout.
If you don't feel like using the midibox, i can suggest a few other options; but most are more expensive, and none have the support community that the Midibox has.

AWESOME thanks for the INFO! I will be using the MidiBox
Graham Frazier
25.09.2009
Here's what I would do:
Use MEC Switches/Buttons, the multimec is amazing, here's a link to the switch catalog,

http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20...%20Catalog.pdf

Use these pots:
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a...IOMETER/1.html

Hunt down some Knobs you like.

Buid it up on a midibox. 1 core, 1 ain, 1 din, 1 dout.
If you don't feel like using the midibox, i can suggest a few other options; but most are more expensive, and none have the support community that the Midibox has.
Latia Pfleider
25.09.2009
As far as using that sparkfun kit with midibox it would not work, that thing works over a com port (forget the terminal name). You would be looking at getting just the pads and for the circuit board I have no idea. they sell blank boards but they are for 3 color led's I do not know if it would be compatible.


I have only built the core on the midibox and im waiting for other board to be sent (he was out of stock on something) as far as the components theres core, AIN (analog input) for pots, DIN (digital input) for buttons, and dout (digital out) for leds.

I dont know how much we can talk about midibox without being asked to go to the midibox fourms, heh. Anyone care?
Delphine Mauser
24.09.2009
OK so I got a solid idea of what I want. I need help with what parts I should be ordering.

Things I know I want:
8 Arcade Buttons with 8 Knobs for my keymasher area


16 Buttons, 1 Knob for my Sample selector and 3 Buttons for Traktor Load Deck area.
I thougth about using Arcade buttons for the 4x4 matrix here but I'd rather go with something smaller. Preferably led buttons that look monomeish or like on my APC40.

Wondering if I could incorperate this http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/pro...oducts_id=9021
into the MidiBox 64 stuff??? If not I would settle for some other kinds of buttons.

24 Knobs and 6 Buttons for my Synth Controls.



All together it will look something like this


The MidiBox 64 stuff looks the most promising to me. But I'm not sure what all I should be purchasing right up from to get started. Other than the Arcade buttons.

When I look at this page http://www.ucapps.de/mbhp/mbhp_midibox64.gif
I assume I need a lot of these different boards, the core etc?

I'm just not sure. I can solder and do some pretty crafty stuff. This is just a new style of project for me and I am unfimilar with the terminology. If someone could guide me with some specifics that would ROCK!

I have another concern with having some controls on the Right side of the APC40 and other on the Left. What do I need to make that possible? Can I do the 4x4 matrix with the cool led pads? What the should I order first? Cheap is less of a concern to me than simplicity.
Delphine Mauser
16.09.2009
Thanks for the tips, I'll definitely be checking this stuff out!
Latia Pfleider
16.09.2009
Hey bro, So your believeing about builting a custom control surface.



-umc32 is a basic way to go (i have not used one personally)

http://www.halemicro.com/Products/Products.html

gets a little expensive if you got more than 32 controls.



-midibox projects offer alot more features and customization. For example I am working on a midibox 64e with encoders like the apc that has banks you can switch through. With midibox you can not buy a pre assembled board you have to solder the components to the board. Its not to hard I just did my core kit and it was my first time soldering things on a board and I believe it came out well (I watched soldering tip videos on youtube first).

http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=basics (look at the how to assemble smashtv core guide and you should know if you fell like you can do the soldering)

http://www.ucapps.de/
http://www.midibox.org/community
http://avishowtech.com/mbhp/buy.html (good spot to buy kits)



-Arduino boards, I do not know if they will do many analog I believe the mega has 16 analog/54 digital



There is a few other options out there but I decided on midibox because of the price per analog's of the other options. I feel like for me I could have got a apc40 and scrap my projects but right now im having more fun building than mixing. If you just want arcade buttons (not analog pots) there might be some cheap options.

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