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Posted on: 22.05.2010 by Madlyn Trocino
Does anyone else wish someone would make a midi controller that has 4 Jog wheels?

All these controllers with 4 channel Faders and no one has thought of actually making a Midi controller that has 4 physical Jogs...1 for each channel (4 Jogs in all)

I dunno, I sit at home making these brilliant and seemingly easy to use multi layer layouts (TSI's) for TP, and its all great until I get to the club and realize its just too much damn believeing for all thats going on while im working in front of hundreds of people.

I have been sitting here for weeks trying to come up with a solution and all I can come up with is piecing it together with mutable controllers which doesnt work because of size limitations in the booths I work...

Maybe im old school....or slightly retarded...or maybe I just get tired of having to believe of the extra step I have to take when implementing "on the fly" idea's.....particularly with Deck's C&D Hot Cues, loops and acapella trickery.

Anything with layers bleeds into my ability to implement ideas natrually and interfere's with my creative flow....Am I the only one who experiences this?
Afton Mancias
25.05.2010
Originally Posted by thictool
Yes and no....scubbing is like 3 percent of what I use the Jog for, More importantly its for manual manipulation of just about every other tool I use in Traktor. Its not possible to quickly manipulate anything without a Jog IMO.

Sure I can go in and pre-grid hot cues and cue points, but then im stuck with that, and without a Jog I really cant do anything on the fly except play the stuff I already did prior.

Im all about the creative flow that happens in a live enviormant and the ability to empliment "sudden" ideas with ease.

The more layers I create (taking up space in my brain & on my cotroller)....the more I seem to feel trapped creatively. I would find it refreshing to have 4 physical Jogs (and controls) for a 4 deck setup.

Call me crazy (most do anyways).....
I totally agree.
Track manipulation is my thing.
Although I wouldn't really use 4 jogs I don't believe..
Madlyn Trocino
23.05.2010
Originally Posted by midifidler
What would you be using the extra jogs for except for scrubbing through the track?
Yes and no....scubbing is like 3 percent of what I use the Jog for, More importantly its for manual manipulation of just about every other tool I use in Traktor. Its not possible to quickly manipulate anything without a Jog IMO.

Sure I can go in and pre-grid hot cues and cue points, but then im stuck with that, and without a Jog I really cant do anything on the fly except play the stuff I already did prior.

Im all about the creative flow that happens in a live enviormant and the ability to empliment "sudden" ideas with ease.

The more layers I create (taking up space in my brain & on my cotroller)....the more I seem to feel trapped creatively. I would find it refreshing to have 4 physical Jogs (and controls) for a 4 deck setup.

Call me crazy (most do anyways).....
Madlyn Trocino
22.05.2010
Does anyone else wish someone would make a midi controller that has 4 Jog wheels?

All these controllers with 4 channel Faders and no one has thought of actually making a Midi controller that has 4 physical Jogs...1 for each channel (4 Jogs in all)

I dunno, I sit at home making these brilliant and seemingly easy to use multi layer layouts (TSI's) for TP, and its all great until I get to the club and realize its just too much damn believeing for all thats going on while im working in front of hundreds of people.

I have been sitting here for weeks trying to come up with a solution and all I can come up with is piecing it together with mutable controllers which doesnt work because of size limitations in the booths I work...

Maybe im old school....or slightly retarded...or maybe I just get tired of having to believe of the extra step I have to take when implementing "on the fly" idea's.....particularly with Deck's C&D Hot Cues, loops and acapella trickery.

Anything with layers bleeds into my ability to implement ideas natrually and interfere's with my creative flow....Am I the only one who experiences this?
Afton Mancias
25.05.2010
Originally Posted by thictool
Yes and no....scubbing is like 3 percent of what I use the Jog for, More importantly its for manual manipulation of just about every other tool I use in Traktor. Its not possible to quickly manipulate anything without a Jog IMO.

Sure I can go in and pre-grid hot cues and cue points, but then im stuck with that, and without a Jog I really cant do anything on the fly except play the stuff I already did prior.

Im all about the creative flow that happens in a live enviormant and the ability to empliment "sudden" ideas with ease.

The more layers I create (taking up space in my brain & on my cotroller)....the more I seem to feel trapped creatively. I would find it refreshing to have 4 physical Jogs (and controls) for a 4 deck setup.

Call me crazy (most do anyways).....
I totally agree.
Track manipulation is my thing.
Although I wouldn't really use 4 jogs I don't believe..
Madlyn Trocino
23.05.2010
Originally Posted by midifidler
What would you be using the extra jogs for except for scrubbing through the track?
Yes and no....scubbing is like 3 percent of what I use the Jog for, More importantly its for manual manipulation of just about every other tool I use in Traktor. Its not possible to quickly manipulate anything without a Jog IMO.

Sure I can go in and pre-grid hot cues and cue points, but then im stuck with that, and without a Jog I really cant do anything on the fly except play the stuff I already did prior.

Im all about the creative flow that happens in a live enviormant and the ability to empliment "sudden" ideas with ease.

The more layers I create (taking up space in my brain & on my cotroller)....the more I seem to feel trapped creatively. I would find it refreshing to have 4 physical Jogs (and controls) for a 4 deck setup.

Call me crazy (most do anyways).....
Leon Camphouse
23.05.2010
I agree with that idea,

The jog wheels don`t need to be big like on the vci,take a look at the jogs on the numark omni,if you can put 2 smaller jogs side by side or even put 4 rotary pot or something.

Granted it will be a tight fit ,you might have to move the line faders closer and so on and even make the jogs removable for transport but at least you have 4 jogs to use

Don`t know how to do it but i`am sure there`s a way.
Adolf Hit
22.05.2010
What would you be using the extra jogs for except for scrubbing through the track?
Ola Fornwalt
22.05.2010
I have Xone 1ds and the way I have it is that the bottom and top buttons of the jogwheels (the phsycial push) are hold modifiers. Then all the jog wheels functions and the 8 bottons above htem becaome releveant to deck A or Deck B, Jog button UP push, jog button down push. and same for CD this makes it super easy to use as if you had four.

A cheap solution would be a pair of EKS XP5s problem solved

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