APC40 + Launchpad users!! How are you doing with your LEDS?
APC40 + Launchpad users!! How are you doing with your LEDS? Posted on: 23.04.2010 by Reece Murray Hey guys and girls, just a little research here. I'm curious about who has sorted out their LED mapping issues, what your solution was, and who is still having trouble. Specifically, the "keeping led lit after release" issue. I know there have been midi overload issues for some PC users, and I'd love to know how (and if) you worked it out.1) Mac or PC? 2) Are you sorted? 3) What was your solution? 4) Led Rings? (for apc) I'm on Mac, my APC is an everchanging kaleidoscope of colors, and to sort everything out I needed to use a combination of outputs mapped in Traktor, the "send monitor state" IN command, and Bomes MT. LEDs that are always on regardless of pressing are handled by a Traktor modifier OUT. My led rings have their style updated by the CC+8 command from Bomes (speak up if you don't know what that is, it's super handy), and their values get dynamically updated by Traktor. | |
| Reece Murray 11.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by Timmio
No, seriously though, this is the kind of experimentation I'm talking about. I like to see solutions. Congrats! @Timmio: Dude, if you find any way to do this without having to open and quit out of Live, let us know. That would be the way to go. |
| Reece Murray 23.04.2010 | Hey guys and girls, just a little research here. I'm curious about who has sorted out their LED mapping issues, what your solution was, and who is still having trouble. Specifically, the "keeping led lit after release" issue. I know there have been midi overload issues for some PC users, and I'd love to know how (and if) you worked it out. 1) Mac or PC? 2) Are you sorted? 3) What was your solution? 4) Led Rings? (for apc) I'm on Mac, my APC is an everchanging kaleidoscope of colors, and to sort everything out I needed to use a combination of outputs mapped in Traktor, the "send monitor state" IN command, and Bomes MT. LEDs that are always on regardless of pressing are handled by a Traktor modifier OUT. My led rings have their style updated by the CC+8 command from Bomes (speak up if you don't know what that is, it's super handy), and their values get dynamically updated by Traktor. |
| Lynetta Piacentino 17.06.2010 | Hi, it's no problem to post my TSI as well (need to get it from my music pc first then), but the thing is that I've it not even nearly fully figured because I've also got a Reloop DJII on the side, and i'm using the APC for looping and effect stuff. But of course I can still share it.. Meanwhile you should check out: http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=101467 That guy has it fully (and then I mean extremely!!) configured. All functions are available for 4 decks having only a APC40, he also included a overlay which you print out (check the 2nd page). If you use that TSI, you will see the true power of APC40&Traktor (unleash the dragon!), check out the movie he made as well! (you might need to set the APC to that dumb mode first) |
| Fanny Legare 16.06.2010 | Awesome thanks Timmio, your'e the man! Would you mind sharing your tsi or a picture of one. I have all the functions mapped to what I use in Traktor, but I know that the APC can do so much more. I would like to see what you have going on. I'll post mine as well. |
| Lynetta Piacentino 16.06.2010 | Regarding the LED rings; you've different states for them. Just like the colored buttons (1 for green, 3 for red, etc) you also have a state for the LED rings. It's something like this: 1 panning mode, 2 single stripe 3 volume mode, or something like that (just experiment with these numbers, I believe there are 3 or 4 modes). Don't forget that if you have CC40 as the note for your rotary, the signal for the led is always +8 (so in this case, that's CC48). Always add 8 to control the led lights. @Zac, until now I still use the dumb mode (what seems to be your solution), somehow I guess akai will have to set some firmware update on this, so that you'll be able to switch 'modes'. Else, Traktor just need to have a good solution on that send state option, but for now that dumb mode is exactly what I needed to have full control over all lights, big thanks to you |
| Fanny Legare 12.06.2010 | Wow this solved all of my issues immediately. Thanks Timmio! It did introduce another issue with the LED rings though. Anyone have any advice as to get them working in the "dumb" state? |
| Reece Murray 11.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by Timmio
No, seriously though, this is the kind of experimentation I'm talking about. I like to see solutions. Congrats! @Timmio: Dude, if you find any way to do this without having to open and quit out of Live, let us know. That would be the way to go. |
| Lynetta Piacentino 11.06.2010 | Why don't people just set the APC into 'dumb' mode?
Experiment with all of the three "states" of the APC40: "Native" (red box) mode (Turn on APC, Start up Live, select APC as control surface). Non-native mode (don't turn on Live, or don't use APC as control surface in Live). And "Dumb" mode (Get the red box in Live, then quit Live).
No need for stupid update message from Traktor -> APC (and annoying delays etc), but just using the LED's as normal. I'm using this for months now and it works perfectly on my Windows machine! So just power on your APC (don't open Traktor), open Ableton Live, when the red box appears in Live as usual, close Live. Then open Traktor and BOOM! Works like charm! |
| Branden Wentler 10.06.2010 | ^^On it. Though i'm not really having issues with LEDs unless 5 or more send messages at once...otherwise good to go. |
| Fanny Legare 10.06.2010 | @bruistie Im assuming you are windows with your APC. It is a bug in the Traktor software and is a HUGE buzzkill. The issue only exists on Windows computers and as of now, there is no fix for the bug. There has been a bug report filed, but the more bug reports filed, the more Traktor will look at this issue. So everyone rocking a windows computer take action! |
| Katharine Montemagno 09.06.2010 | I'm having massive issue mapping the new apc20. its fine with out the led's working but as soon as i set them up i get massive lags and sound issue when i press one of the buttons. there is also no separate midi mapping for the led's as there is for the apc40 that i can find. so its all going through the same message. i'm guessing this is why i am getting the problems but i'm just getting really confused now. |
| Fanny Legare 28.05.2010 | I have been able to get LED feedback for the APC, but it's a pain in the ass and I'm probably going to try out bomes soon. But here is an example of getting Play/Pause to work: You need to add a midi in Play/Pause note and set it to a specific button using learn. Then add a midi out that is set to the same button and configure it as follows: I forget which one is which, Controller range or midi range, but set the top one to 0 and 1 corresponding to on or off. Then set the bottom one to 3 and 1, in that order. This means the led will be red when off and green when on. Then check the invert box. This is used by the send monitor update. Then add a midi in "Send Monitor Update" and set it to the same button. Check invert as well. Now press the button to see if it works. You can set all of the buttons up in this fashion, as I have, but it is a HUGE pain in the ass. I have read a little bit about bomes and read that you can customize the messages being sent and received from the APC. For instance instead of sending an on and off message every time a button is pressed (This is what's happening). It can translate one button push into a toggle that will update the LEDs appropriately without having to the Send Monitor Update trick. I will look into this and possible post a walk through with some tsi's regarding this issue, because it sucks to figure this ish out. -Kodez |
| Reece Murray 14.05.2010 | Wow, first reply to this. I'm really interested to hear if any APC users on PC have found a solution? |
| Javier Apreza 14.05.2010 | I'm in the "MIDI overload boat" when it comes to messages sent out to the LEDs on my APC40. It sucks, actually. I'm on a PC, and so far my solution is to just not use LED messages. I haven't ever used Bomes, though, nor have I had any real use for the LED rings as I have an X-Session that handles the heavy lifting and I use the APC's faders for effects. |
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