Numark NS7 with V7

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Numark NS7 with V7
Posted on: 08.07.2010 by Laurette Deleonardo
Im considering getting a NS7 to learn everything on, then in time i want to get a 3rd deck, the V7 being just a single deck from the NS7 would match perfectly, but would it work? NS7 usb to comp and V7 Usb to comp, 3 decks in total, output 1 of V7 to aux input of NS7, can serato itch support 3 decks? from 2 different pieces of hardware or would i just be better off getting a cd player going into the aux input? i know that i cant assign it to the crossfader, but i still have control over volume via the gain and eq treble and bass.
Jacqulyn Shoemo
19.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
ecler evo5, as it says in the video.
I couldn't view the vid when I posted that. All that content gets filtered while I'm at work.

16.07.2010
Originally Posted by Lunchbox4u_6
What mixer did you go with?
ecler evo5, as it says in the video.
Jacqulyn Shoemo
16.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
as someone who went from NS7 to V7, my opinion is: get a pair of V7s and a decent mixer - and wait it out. I'm pretty sure NI's got something cooking. the V7/NS7 userbase is too large to ignore... same goes for the "4 decks with 2 V7s" thing within ITCH, it's most likely some exclusive deal crap that always gets in the way of progress.


well, you can still use my traktor timecode hack and keep switching the timecode control from deck to deck (the same way you work when you have two turntables but want to use 3-4 decks). I believe I posted it already, if I haven't, check this out (hope you don't mind me sounding all confused, I was a bit groggy that day and just wanted to get it done):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jysn738lrUI
What mixer did you go with?
Rebbecca Fennell
13.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
I'm pretty sure one USB can handle more than that (compared to, say, a virus TI which handles 3 stereo outs, one stereo in and plenty of control data easily). an audio8 is usb too and deals with up to 4 ins and 4 outs at a time.
you're comparing apples and oranges tho. and what you're saying about it being some sort of contractual thing doesn't make any sense.

i remember on the serato boards alot of people bitching about how with the xone dx you cant scratch and the scrub wheel isnt hi res. with the information being exchanged there just isn't enough bandwidth for a steady rate of large volumes of information.
really who would turn down that cash cow if it existed? maybe in the future but not now

13.07.2010
Originally Posted by Segfault
It isn't the information being processed, it's the information being exchanged between the V7 and your laptop. One USB cord can only handle so much.
I'm pretty sure one USB can handle more than that (compared to, say, a virus TI which handles 3 stereo outs, one stereo in and plenty of control data easily). an audio8 is usb too and deals with up to 4 ins and 4 outs at a time.
Rebbecca Fennell
14.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
I'm pretty sure NI's got something cooking. the V7/NS7 userbase is too large to ignore... same goes for the "4 decks with 2 V7s" thing within ITCH, it's most likely some exclusive deal crap that always gets in the way of progress.

why bother? with the v7's really other then having 8 cue points most of the features of traktor can be covered with a decent mixer (key, filter, effects). and i am pretty sure the 4 deck thing really has to do with the amount of information being exchanged. thats why/how the dx works.

13.07.2010		as someone who went from NS7 to V7, my opinion is: get a pair of V7s and a decent mixer - and wait it out. I'm pretty sure NI's got something cooking. the V7/NS7 userbase is too large to ignore... same goes for the "4 decks with 2 V7s" thing within ITCH, it's most likely some exclusive deal crap that always gets in the way of progress.

Originally Posted by HedgeHog
In Traktor it would work BUT there is no official version with native support for the spinning platter out yet.
well, you can still use my traktor timecode hack and keep switching the timecode control from deck to deck (the same way you work when you have two turntables but want to use 3-4 decks). I believe I posted it already, if I haven't, check this out (hope you don't mind me sounding all confused, I was a bit groggy that day and just wanted to get it done):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jysn738lrUI
Elia Ajram
08.07.2010
Originally Posted by GXAssassin
can serato itch support 3 decks?
Joey is correct - unfortunately Itch only supports more than 2 decks with the XoneX. Even when I connect 2xV7's to a mixer, both audio from deck A and B come from the same V7.
Laurette Deleonardo
08.07.2010		Im considering getting a NS7 to learn everything on, then in time i want to get a 3rd deck, the V7 being just a single deck from the NS7 would match perfectly, but would it work? NS7 usb to comp and V7 Usb to comp, 3 decks in total, output 1 of V7 to aux input of NS7, can serato itch support 3 decks? from 2 different pieces of hardware or would i just be better off getting a cd player going into the aux input? i know that i cant assign it to the crossfader, but i still have control over volume via the gain and eq treble and bass.
Jacqulyn Shoemo
19.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
ecler evo5, as it says in the video.
I couldn't view the vid when I posted that. All that content gets filtered while I'm at work.

16.07.2010
Originally Posted by Lunchbox4u_6
What mixer did you go with?
ecler evo5, as it says in the video.
Jacqulyn Shoemo
16.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
as someone who went from NS7 to V7, my opinion is: get a pair of V7s and a decent mixer - and wait it out. I'm pretty sure NI's got something cooking. the V7/NS7 userbase is too large to ignore... same goes for the "4 decks with 2 V7s" thing within ITCH, it's most likely some exclusive deal crap that always gets in the way of progress.


well, you can still use my traktor timecode hack and keep switching the timecode control from deck to deck (the same way you work when you have two turntables but want to use 3-4 decks). I believe I posted it already, if I haven't, check this out (hope you don't mind me sounding all confused, I was a bit groggy that day and just wanted to get it done):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jysn738lrUI
What mixer did you go with?
Kayleen Positano
14.07.2010		(FireWire could do it)

But that aside, most of the stream chatter isn't coming from the audio on the cards, but all that 'Hi-Res' control information coming out of the NS7 and V7.
Rebbecca Fennell
13.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
I'm pretty sure one USB can handle more than that (compared to, say, a virus TI which handles 3 stereo outs, one stereo in and plenty of control data easily). an audio8 is usb too and deals with up to 4 ins and 4 outs at a time.
you're comparing apples and oranges tho. and what you're saying about it being some sort of contractual thing doesn't make any sense.

i remember on the serato boards alot of people bitching about how with the xone dx you cant scratch and the scrub wheel isnt hi res. with the information being exchanged there just isn't enough bandwidth for a steady rate of large volumes of information.
really who would turn down that cash cow if it existed? maybe in the future but not now

13.07.2010
Originally Posted by Segfault
It isn't the information being processed, it's the information being exchanged between the V7 and your laptop. One USB cord can only handle so much.
I'm pretty sure one USB can handle more than that (compared to, say, a virus TI which handles 3 stereo outs, one stereo in and plenty of control data easily). an audio8 is usb too and deals with up to 4 ins and 4 outs at a time.
Kayleen Positano
14.07.2010		It isn't the information being processed, it's the information being exchanged between the V7 and your laptop. One USB cord can only handle so much.

14.07.2010		I beg to differ on that. with the stuff traktor can handle on my machine with the cpu barely showing any signs of stress, I doubt that itch - which IMO is a much lighter application than traktor - would have problems handling four independent streams. especially since with two V7s, you can only control two decks at a time.

I'm sure it's a licensing issue that will expire in due time.
Rebbecca Fennell
14.07.2010
Originally Posted by ctrld
I'm pretty sure NI's got something cooking. the V7/NS7 userbase is too large to ignore... same goes for the "4 decks with 2 V7s" thing within ITCH, it's most likely some exclusive deal crap that always gets in the way of progress.

why bother? with the v7's really other then having 8 cue points most of the features of traktor can be covered with a decent mixer (key, filter, effects). and i am pretty sure the 4 deck thing really has to do with the amount of information being exchanged. thats why/how the dx works.

13.07.2010		as someone who went from NS7 to V7, my opinion is: get a pair of V7s and a decent mixer - and wait it out. I'm pretty sure NI's got something cooking. the V7/NS7 userbase is too large to ignore... same goes for the "4 decks with 2 V7s" thing within ITCH, it's most likely some exclusive deal crap that always gets in the way of progress.

Originally Posted by HedgeHog
In Traktor it would work BUT there is no official version with native support for the spinning platter out yet.
well, you can still use my traktor timecode hack and keep switching the timecode control from deck to deck (the same way you work when you have two turntables but want to use 3-4 decks). I believe I posted it already, if I haven't, check this out (hope you don't mind me sounding all confused, I was a bit groggy that day and just wanted to get it done):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jysn738lrUI
Makkins Clifton
13.07.2010		Being in the lucky position of actually posessing a V7 AND NS7 I can tell that I tried both at the same time in Itch.

It doesn't work. Both units send the same control-signals so instead of controlling a 3rd deck with the V7 you'd just control deck A or B of the NS7.

In Traktor it would work BUT there is no official version with native support for the spinning platter out yet.
Rebbecca Fennell
13.07.2010		the only way you can get more then 2 decks is with more then 2 laptops.
dx gets away with it because it doesnt use 14 bit hi res.
the cd player in the aux is an interesting idea, especially as a back up if your computer shits out. if you believe you really want a platform thats more modular or customizable i would look into getting v7s from the get go if you really wanna use itch
Vernie Prive
12.07.2010		@GXAssassin

If you're interested in an NS7 w/nsfx, 6 months old, PM me. I'm converting to TPro and trying to get one of them mythical DJTT VCI arcades.
Elia Ajram
08.07.2010
Originally Posted by GXAssassin
can serato itch support 3 decks?
Joey is correct - unfortunately Itch only supports more than 2 decks with the XoneX. Even when I connect 2xV7's to a mixer, both audio from deck A and B come from the same V7.
Jadwiga Mainka
08.07.2010		i heard it doesnt work, itch cant read 2 audio interfaces at once.

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