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APC40 vs Launchpad + Nocturn
Posted on: 10.07.2010 by Cheyenne Golay
Hi guys I was wondering for live situations using traktor and sometimes traktor+ableton, which set up will give me more options?
I know the apc40 have more knobs and sliders, what about programs, is it 16 like with launchpad and nocturn.
To program for using with traktor, with automap should be way easier and I can do more advanced stuff? Or is gonna be the same, just more work with the apc without automap 3.5 pro?
They are at the same price on e-bay right now(U$250), however the apc40 is a hassle to find an inexpensive bag(180+) and I am afraid to find space to fit the apc40 + 17" laptop on diferent djbooths.

Summary:
APC40: PROS: more knobs/sliders more program pages(16)??
CONS: Big, hard to place on any space/djbooth

Launchpad+Nocturn:PRO: Maybe the buttons available is enough for live situations,automap(is it really a pro?) to program Traktor,space?,easier to carry around,fits on any bag.
Cons: uses 2 usbs, less knobs,2 controllers(more things to go wrong)
I might have to be using diferent scenes(programs all the time, depending on the situation).

What's your opinion?

Thanks.
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Cheyenne Golay
10.07.2010
Hi guys I was wondering for live situations using traktor and sometimes traktor+ableton, which set up will give me more options?
I know the apc40 have more knobs and sliders, what about programs, is it 16 like with launchpad and nocturn.
To program for using with traktor, with automap should be way easier and I can do more advanced stuff? Or is gonna be the same, just more work with the apc without automap 3.5 pro?
They are at the same price on e-bay right now(U$250), however the apc40 is a hassle to find an inexpensive bag(180+) and I am afraid to find space to fit the apc40 + 17" laptop on diferent djbooths.

Summary:
APC40: PROS: more knobs/sliders more program pages(16)??
CONS: Big, hard to place on any space/djbooth

Launchpad+Nocturn:PRO: Maybe the buttons available is enough for live situations,automap(is it really a pro?) to program Traktor,space?,easier to carry around,fits on any bag.
Cons: uses 2 usbs, less knobs,2 controllers(more things to go wrong)
I might have to be using diferent scenes(programs all the time, depending on the situation).

What's your opinion?

Thanks.
Ernie Stieglitz
24.07.2010
I'm using two launchpads and nocturn. They seem to work fine through the logitech usb hub I use, powered or unpowered.
Aurea Kager
21.07.2010
Originally Posted by diijay
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.
Mapping isnt easy it took me almost 4 months. But also i restarted several times and modified the whole layout, at the end i got a preety good flow, and im setting the lastest things to have a complete version to share it and stuff.

here
Cheyenne Golay
14.07.2010
Hey guys, thank you for your inputs.
What about this.
Which one is easier to set up with traktor?
I just spoke with novation and akai and they don;t give support for software besides ableton live and they don't explain what do you have to do in order to have leed feedback from those units and traktor.

Thanks.

12.07.2010
I decieded to go with the APC20 and the Nocturn. But then I ran out of money and only got the APC20. So now I use an APC20, KorgKontrol for the pots and extra sliders. And I got a pair of Dicers for free. I have enough. I believe the best advice is to learn each pice of gear sepratly, then put them together. It's really all up to how creative YOU are, not what gear you use.

But the gear now-a-days is SWEEEEEETTT!
Marguerite Salsedo
10.07.2010
I'm gonna put a vote forth for the APC 40, I've heard nothing but good things about the build quality on them. More knobs and sliders will almost certainly give you more options too. Also if you're gonna use it with traktor you get the option of mapping it to suit your needs. Using less USB ports is HUGE advantage if you plan to expand later, and most soundcards are USB anyways so there's another port gone...
There was also review of the APC 40 and APC 20 on DJTT recently: Akai APC20 and APC40 - Review
As for bags I don't know, maybe a flight case or peli-case, something like that? I believe the Akai site had MonoBags for sale on it...

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