Xone DX - I would recommend!
Xone DX - I would recommend! Posted on: 08.08.2010 by Korey Ehman DX turned up the other day. Thought id post my views on it. First impressions: Very well built, sturdy and looks like the suavest bit of kit on the market. It isnt much bigger than most other "internal" controllers and isnt too heavy. I wouldnt find it too difficult to carry around especially as Mono and Magma do bags that fit. Setting up: I use this with Traktor Pro (not Itch that comes with). It was set up and working within 5 minutes. Simply a case of installing the driver from the cd, grabbing one of the TSI files from the Allen and Heath site (I would recommend mapping #3 on there) and just importing that to traktor. Everything worked fine first time. In use: I find everything well layed out, easy to use and navigate. Its got everything I could possibly need all in one unit. Whether it be effects, looping or just basic controls its great for the lot. Also, 4 deck action is really easy at the press of just one button. The jog wheels feel nice as a pitch bend and make it easy to cue up/search through a track to find the point your after. I would recommend this to anyone. Saves the hassle of having to set up 2 Kontrol X1's and an Audio 8 then wire them all to a mixer - everything is just there at your fingertips! Heres a pic - | |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by danshadowcompany
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| Corine Kasman 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by danshadowcompany
My biggest gripes with the unit are ergonomic ones: -right most FX knob (encoder) is too close to the third knob -gain knobs have a center detent (wtf were they believeing?) -its a beast to carry for house parties and needs a bigger table than a VCI To be honest, I only tinkered with it and Traktor. Still am glued to the VCI for all Traktor purposes (it was the first workflow I really learned and can run it in my sleep). Phil. |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by danshadowcompany
Yeah I'm making the trip. Got my ticket through the door just last week. Was there last year and enjoyed it. I'm heading down with one of my mates. We stayed at the Radison at the NEC but its fully booked already Just gonna have to find an alternative that ain't too far away. Any suggestions seeing as your local? |
| Korey Ehman 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by hesitant
Yeah im going, only down the road from me. You making a trip? |
| Korey Ehman 08.08.2010 | DX turned up the other day. Thought id post my views on it. First impressions: Very well built, sturdy and looks like the suavest bit of kit on the market. It isnt much bigger than most other "internal" controllers and isnt too heavy. I wouldnt find it too difficult to carry around especially as Mono and Magma do bags that fit. Setting up: I use this with Traktor Pro (not Itch that comes with). It was set up and working within 5 minutes. Simply a case of installing the driver from the cd, grabbing one of the TSI files from the Allen and Heath site (I would recommend mapping #3 on there) and just importing that to traktor. Everything worked fine first time. In use: I find everything well layed out, easy to use and navigate. Its got everything I could possibly need all in one unit. Whether it be effects, looping or just basic controls its great for the lot. Also, 4 deck action is really easy at the press of just one button. The jog wheels feel nice as a pitch bend and make it easy to cue up/search through a track to find the point your after. I would recommend this to anyone. Saves the hassle of having to set up 2 Kontrol X1's and an Audio 8 then wire them all to a mixer - everything is just there at your fingertips! Heres a pic - |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 | From you videos I can see its complex, but very impressive. Look forward to seeing your video when posted. Thanks very much for offering help and advice its very much appreciated. I might try it myself but using a standard mapping as my baseline. As I'm still very new to midi controllers it may take me a while |
| Kecia Wnukowski 09.08.2010 | It is complex (HUNDREDS of commands) and it's still evolving so I can't give you an honest answer but it takes an awful lot of time, mainly when you're bringing new "concepts"/ideas to your unit. But I chose a long path as I multiplied the mappings needed (I'm working for each deck with three different states - loop & move, hotcues and direct Fxs). However I do have a written plan (drawing) somewhere here on the site but it's no longer valid. I hope to do a quick video like the others within the next days so I may post this plan at the same time or send it to you directly (but it won't be documented/explained). Meanwhile if you have specific questions (or need help with your mapping), just pm me, I'll try to answer them. |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 | Yul do you have a copy of what each button/fader is assigned to on the DX for your mapping? Just interested to see how you have mapped the DX out as I've watched your videos and it looks pretty complex. Also how long did it take to do. Not wanting to steal your mapping just looking for inspiration |
| Kecia Wnukowski 09.08.2010 |
-gain knobs have a center detent (wtf were they believeing?)
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| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 | Magic. Thanks very much for that. I'll get booking later toevening . |
| Korey Ehman 09.08.2010 | Its about 10 minutes on the train. Both hotels have secure 24H parking. |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by danshadowcompany
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| Corine Kasman 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by danshadowcompany
My biggest gripes with the unit are ergonomic ones: -right most FX knob (encoder) is too close to the third knob -gain knobs have a center detent (wtf were they believeing?) -its a beast to carry for house parties and needs a bigger table than a VCI To be honest, I only tinkered with it and Traktor. Still am glued to the VCI for all Traktor purposes (it was the first workflow I really learned and can run it in my sleep). Phil. |
| Korey Ehman 09.08.2010 | Theres the Hilton Metropole which is walking distance to NEC and just read up the The Ramada Encore and the Crowne Plaza too. (NEC's in the middle of nowhere really so i believe those hotels are virtually on site.) Otherwise if you were making a weekend of it I would recommend staying city centre in either the Malmaison (Mailbox) or the City Inn (Brindley Place). Both of those are in good locations for food/evening s out and you can get a train from New St station which is walking distance of both hotels directly to NEC and back. Ive stayed at both of those hotels and they are both really nice. |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by danshadowcompany
Yeah I'm making the trip. Got my ticket through the door just last week. Was there last year and enjoyed it. I'm heading down with one of my mates. We stayed at the Radison at the NEC but its fully booked already Just gonna have to find an alternative that ain't too far away. Any suggestions seeing as your local? |
| Korey Ehman 09.08.2010 |
Originally Posted by hesitant
Yeah im going, only down the road from me. You making a trip? |
| Alta Corea 09.08.2010 | I want one so bad. But I believe I will just bite the bullet and buy another 1D and Xone mixer. Then just wing it from there. Glad to hear you like the DX. I cant stop watching videos on any Allen & Heath product. |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 | They have assigned a button (censor) so you can lock the beat grid so would of thought they would of allowed beat grid control from the dx too. Ah well probably wouldn't take much to map it out. You going to BPM this year? |
| Korey Ehman 09.08.2010 | One thing I would like to do is map it to put in a beat marker and the press of a button and to adjust grids - maybe assign it to shift -> effect rotary dial or the loop length rotary dial |
| Yon Gigler 09.08.2010 | Glad you are enjoying the DX. I've had mine since March and still loving it. I'm using the same mapping as you #3 but have had to modify it. I don't know if its just me but channel 3 and 4 seem to be the wrong way round. I know A&H said they would create a mapping similar to itch but in itch it uses channel 1 and 3 as the top 2 decks and 2 and 4 as the bottom. So surely in Traktor it should be the same and not channel 4 for deck B? |
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