X1 Button Rearranging?
X1 Button Rearranging? Posted on: 01.06.2010 by Allen Dahlgren Hi Guys,I'm curious about the internals of the X1... anybody taken theirs apart yet? I'm wondering if it's possible to move the physical buttons around... I'd like to swap my cue and sync buttons since I'm used to having cue and play beside each other, not above. I know I can easily just remap the buttons to do what I want, but then the label on the button doesn't match it's function. If the buttons are just individual piece of rubber, it should be trivial to move them around... but if it's a single sheet of rubber w/ say, 2 x 4 buttons, it would require some surgery... Thoughts? m. | |
| Latoria Kavulich 06.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by boykott
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| Leeanna Ayla 16.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by boykott
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| Jayne Yellowhair 16.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by boykott
Anyway, still waiting for alientek pictures .. |
| Leeanna Ayla 11.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by alientek
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| Jack Narva 07.09.2010 | Rearranging the pads should be easy enough, you would just have to snip the connecting rubber of each group. The backside of the front plate (inner assembly frame) would hold each pad in place even if seperated. The assembly is very basic, if you have any technical skill or experience it should be a piece of cake. The only minor thing is when you first disassemble it you have to get the screw under the product label on the back (the one above the white serial number label). Just push on it a little with your finger and you should feel the screw hole. Take a small razor and cut out the hole enough to get the screwdriver in and seated. Thats about the only issue. Good luck. |
| Annalisa Shogren 07.09.2010 | That's awesome, so would you say the rubber pads are easy enough to re-arrange? And how was re-assembly? If it wasn't too hard i may consider this... |
| Janyce Henningson 07.09.2010 | This is awesome - great job and great pics |
| Delila Vandommelen 07.09.2010 | Well done sir, waiting for the pics. |
| Jack Narva 07.09.2010 | It was very easy to take the unit apart. A few screws (including the one hidden beneath the Production label). Removing the text from the rubber pads was very easy as well. Just use a Dremmel tool with a fine grit sanding drum. Use a very HIGH SPEED setting and apply minimal pressure to the pad where the words are. The high speed will create enough heat to take the print off without marking up the surface. Keep a cotton rag handy with a little alcohol (isopropyl pref) to wipe the pad clean as the words melt away. I of course had no desire to remove the labeling from the front panel. Using the blank overlay from Ni and labels works great. Also NI has the blank in a pdf doc to download. A little time in photoshop I made some cool overlays for various setups I use. Had them printed at Fedex/Kinkos on very thin pvc, durable and waterproof, an added bonus is they are static cling decals so changing them out is easy. They ran about $12 a square foot so I did 3 layouts per sq ft (4"x10). Hardest part was die cutting the button holes with a punch. Knob holes were easy as I took the knobs off, used a single hole punch so only the knob stem needed a hole and not the whole knob. A friend is using it right now for a series of shows. Once I have it back I will post some more shots with the custom decals. Til then.... |
| Latoria Kavulich 06.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by boykott
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| Latoria Kavulich 06.09.2010 | Very brave! But no way in hell i'm smashing open mine (when it arrives). Good luck with your modding. |
| Hope Franzi 06.09.2010 | Was it particularly difficult getting the print off the buttons? How about getting the thing back together? It's be ace to do the same thing - was believeing of getting a printed overlay done too ... |
| Leeanna Ayla 06.09.2010 | Nice work. |
| Jack Narva 06.09.2010 | After a lenghty delay, here are pictures of the teardown process, the parts and assembly, and showing the final look after the control labels were removed from the pads. The blank overlay from NI is used on the front plate. I am very happy with the end result, as I had said before, it allows for much more flexibilty since I can use it sitting horizontally as well as the intended vertical position. (Great Ableton device controller this way). Follow the link to my album on Photobucket http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m...N%20AND%20MOD/ Enjoy! |
| Jack Narva 17.06.2010 | Wow ... Boykott. Your input was enlightening, but then again your user name says it all. Nice use of your time, and waste of mine. But since I am here... Why adapt if it can be adapted? Why bend to use someone else's design when I can bend it to my needs? Why be a sheep and follow when I can be the sheep herder and lead? So, if growing a sack and adapting to the gear is your way of working, why in the hell are you reading a thread about modding? Now for why I am really here... Thanks sj03w4t for the props. Sorting out my hosting account for the pictures. I should have them up in the next day or two. I will create a new thread for them as well as link to it here. Until then... |
| Leeanna Ayla 16.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by boykott
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| Jayne Yellowhair 16.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by boykott
Anyway, still waiting for alientek pictures .. |
| Tameka Cerutti 16.06.2010 | do you know what you could do? grow a sack and just adapt to the controller the way it is. fuck sake. |
| Leeanna Ayla 11.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by alientek
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| Jayne Yellowhair 11.06.2010 | @alientek epic first post! Cant wait for the Pics.. |
| Jack Narva 11.06.2010 | I thought about doing the same thing, but decided to go another route. I took the unit apart with little problem. The likely reason you had trouble disassembling it was due to one screw. On the back there are two labels, One white with the serial #, and another black with NI info and model. There is another screw below the black label. To easily get to it, press on it and you should feel the hole then use a razor and cut enough to get your screwdriver through. To answer your question, the rubber pads are connected, but they do not rely on this to retain each pads location. Each pad button and button slot has alignment pins, so even if the pads were seperated, they are held in place by the pins. For me, there are buttons labeled with functions I never have or will use. I never use Sync, and I never use Cue up for one. So what I did was use a Dremmel with a fine sanding disc at high speed to remove the text from each button. The high speed with little pressure creates enough heat to bring the text off easily with no scarring or marking to the rubber button surface. Even with the button lit from the LEDs it shows no marks. Now using the NI made overlay (I ordered extras) I can label each button with its main and modified control similar to the encoder labels. Also now I can create mappings that would allow me to use it in a horizontal config instead of vertical. I took pictures of the process and results, and in the next few days I will get them up and posted. |
| Rebbecca Cornelsen 04.06.2010 | You could just go to your local copy shop and get some small decals to go on top of the buttons. Might not light up the same but you wouldn't have to break your X1 trying to get it apart. |
| Allen Dahlgren 04.06.2010 | Well... I just tried to take it apart... -Removed all the screws from the bottom. -Removed knobs -Pried on it gently to get the top off -Pried harder -Put knobs back on -Put screws back in. No joy. I didn't want to pull too hard on it... didn't want it to come apart in a bad way. Unless someone's willing to risk braking theirs to get a peek at the guts, I'd say we're stuck w/ it the way it is. Maybe one could sand the labels off and relabel them? m. |
| Jayne Yellowhair 02.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by psylozen
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| Allen Dahlgren 02.06.2010 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
cheers! m. |
| Leeanna Ayla 01.06.2010 | If and when you do open it take lots of pictures so we can see it to. |
| Jayne Yellowhair 01.06.2010 | Oh yeah mustv missed that part LOL |
| Vernon Positano 01.06.2010 | If you are feeling brave enough to open the case, which you would have to do anyway to move the buttons around, just have a quick look and see. |
| Vernon Positano 01.06.2010 | lol, I believe he covered that in his original post |
| Jayne Yellowhair 01.06.2010 | You could just modify the mapping, right? Then only the labels on the X1 would be wrong, but who cares |
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