vestax typhoon, worth it?
vestax typhoon, worth it? Posted on: 21.04.2010 by Tuan Meka hi everyone! it's my first post but i've been following this community
for months now!here is my situation: i've decided to start djing with Traktor...i need of course the software and a midi controller, the only thing i have right now is a Presonus Firebox and a Macbook Pro... i'm looking for some very basic gear (i don't need tons of knobs and faders...) and for portability since i'm going to travel a lot in the future (that's why i decided to go digital..) a lot of guys here use VCI-100 which honestly would be overkill and overpriced for my needs, but after doing some researches i bumped into the Typhoon from Vestax. i won't be using effects and cue points any sooner so maybe the simplified layout of the Typhoon would be an ideal solution. in the future i could always add a mini controller from Korg or Akai for extra buttons... what do you guys believe?? | |
| Virgie Igler 06.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by mannequin
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| Virgie Igler 06.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by mannequin
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| Virgie Igler 04.07.2010 |
Originally Posted by pilmat
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| Jamie Tkacik 14.09.2010 | Hey guys, I just got a Typhoon and have a question for current users. Has anyone upgraded to Traktor Pro, and if so, how much is this "special upgrade price" they're talking about? I see on the Traktor website where a normal upgrade from LE is $139.00. Is the update offered with the Typhoon cheaper than this?? |
| Cassandra Tomkiewicz 11.09.2010 | the new numark mixtrack? |
| Liz Terzis 11.09.2010 | just to add to this discussion: i saw Typhoon setup with Mac and it's possible to run it with 2.5ms there no problem so i'm guessing Typhoon windows driver is here to blame... |
| Virgie Igler 06.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by mannequin
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| Liz Terzis 06.09.2010 | well, Typhoon ASIO driver doesn't go below 11.5ms (512 buffer setting) to begin with but like i said it gives problems on anything below 17.0ms. bmo, i'm guessing you're using Audio 2 DJ interface and not the Spin's one anyway. |
| Virgie Igler 06.09.2010 |
Originally Posted by mannequin
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| Liz Terzis 05.09.2010 | was just wondering about the latency settings that the owners of Typhoon/Spin are using and i haven't seen this issue discussed anywhere yet. i found out it's impossible to go lower than 17.0ms ("768" buffer setting in Typhoon ASIO driver) with Typhoon without causing any trouble no matter what the system config is, any lower settings just result in drop outs, crackling noise, etc. is the lower end Typhoon's soundcard is here to blame for this? "17.0ms" doesn't look too exciting even for basic "house" mixing. |
| Korey Ehman 03.08.2010 | One thing that put me off the Typhoon was the sliders instead of rotary dials for the e.q.. i would find that really annoying i reckon! |
| Suanne Ehnot 02.08.2010 | The Mixtrack is a very good controller. I've been using one with an Audio 8 and Traktor Scratch Pro for 3 weeks now and its been great. For an inexpensive controller, YOU CAN'T BEAT IT. Unlimited wit the mapping possibilities. Remapped my loop keys with my keylock as a modifier. Mapped it to be my cues and mapped my laptop keys for different things too. Getting a case built for it, the Audio, and possibly an Kontrol X1. That power and portability is great. Response is really good. |
| Virgie Igler 04.07.2010 |
Originally Posted by pilmat
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| Corine Kasman 04.07.2010 | @bmo What version of Traktor are you using? There is a warning on the Vestax support page that tells users not to upgrade Traktor LE to 1.2.6 :eek: Phil. |
| Virgie Igler 04.07.2010 |
Originally Posted by itsmeborna
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| Graham Frazier 03.07.2010 | If you're looking for a cheap option the Numark Mixtrack is coming out soon, they say $150 american. And if you pair that up with an Audio 2 for $99, you'll have an excellent audio interface, and some decent controls. But as far as quality and such go, you'll probably have to wait 'till the release for a decent review. |
| Taneka Harvin 03.07.2010 | i owned a typhoon for all of a week and decided to sell and buy a vci-100 due to the fact i needed the double functionality of the vci compared to what the typhoon offers. i believe its probably ok for a beginner and someone who just wants to mix simply and drop a few fx but personally didnt rate it to highly but thats because it really wasnt what i needed. also the fact in the u.k anyway you can buy a used vci100 for about |
| Humberto Partis 03.07.2010 | So, the Typhoon is a fail-kontroller? Did Vestax do a bad thing to build this thing? I can get the typhoon for 2300:- and that's CHEAP for a kontroller in Sweden. I had the RMX when i went to the states, and it was toootaly bugged. Did _NOT_ work on my macbook, and when I booted to PC it worked, but bugged alot, got a great mapping, still was the worst thing ever. Got my money back, and havent been playing alot lately. I'm believeing of getting the typhoon, because it's simple, all you need in a fresh-box. People say RMX, but all RMX did to me was make me sad, and just google "Hercules RMX problems" it will come tons of threads with people that have problem with it. gosh. Anyways. A month later, what do you believe about the typhoon? |
| Leeanna Ayla 01.06.2010 | I bought Djay 3 kind of on a whim. When I realized how much I missed and really liked doing this I started looking at controllers. My first though was a Vestax Spin, when I saw that it came with the software I just spent $50 bucks on I started looking around at other controllers. I noticed a lot of the controllers I was looking at came with Traktor LE, so I started checking the software out by downloading the demo. Shortly after that I found DJTT and saw the available mappings and support that was given to the VCI-100. That support and this community was a big reason for deciding to go with a VCI-100. I didn't really see the same quality of help out there for any other controller. If you decide to move on the VCI-100 has a pretty good resale value and never stay up for sale very long. EDIT: hmm, didn't realize I had already replied to this thread. lol |
| Mirian Gaura 01.06.2010 | I sent the typhoon back.. ordered the Reloop DJ2 Controller Edition instead! |
| Tuan Meka 25.05.2010 | well after weeks of researches, I went for the Reloop DJ2 Controller Edition.... maybe not the best choice....but I am veeeeery happy right now, and that's what matters |
| Mirian Gaura 24.05.2010 | I just ordered a Vestax Typhoon, should be with me this week. Can't wait!! I believe im going to buy a X1 to go with it soon. |
| Hipolito Scionti 22.04.2010 | Yes, it feels like you're upselling yourself pointlessly with the vci-100.. but you're not. When i first wanted to go digital i was looking at the BCD3000, believeing to myself, it's just a midi controller, the sound is the same etc. I went into my local dj store (decks.co.uk) and one of the guys there (who is a bit of knob) made an amazing point which is: If you buy something cheap, it'll break or you'll be disappointed and you spend more money down the line rectifying that mistake. Or buy the quality gear now and be done with it. I knew he was just being a salesman but he was totally right! (he also pointed me in the direction of this site which was pretty rated too) I went with the VCI (just regular, not SE) and I love it... It is just such a solid piece of kit. If you don't like it (which you will) as someone said you can defo sell it. Good luck :-) |
| Leeanna Ayla 22.04.2010 | I started out believeing I would get the Total Control package, then realized for not much more I could get the Omni control. A bunch of research later and I decided on the VCI-100. If in the end I don't like it or want out they're pretty easy to sell used. |
| Corine Kasman 22.04.2010 | All DJ gear
is limited by the user. What makes a Xone 92 with two CDJ-2000, Traktor Scratch Pro and 100 Gig of the "latest" music any good? Nothing if the person ehind the decks can't figure out a set to get people moving. Pro level gear
used two be 2 TT, needles that weren't broken and two line levels (no cross fader), the rest was done by hand. One argument for starting with "lesser" gear is that you have to figure out how to do a lot of stuff on your own. That building experience of discovery will be invaluable throught your life, never mind your career. The flip side is that you can pick up some really bad habits that will be hard to break. The bad habits can come from compensating for a setup that won't let you do what you want and the "band-aid" you find around it will become your way of working. In the end, only you can decide what is best for you and then learn from that decision. There is no right or wrong, just experience. Enjoy, Phil. |
| Tuan Meka 22.04.2010 | well, i guess what i'm looking for is pretty much the Vci-100 or an entry copy of it ...but as a beginner, i just feel bad spending too much money on it, when a simple Steel, Stealth Control or similar could fully cover my basic needs. but then again, those "entry level" controllers aren't that cheap either, and if you buy them and after a while you feel the need to improve or maybe you just don't like how they are built (i've tried the Numark Total Control and hated it) you end up spending more than if you just bought something really good at the beginning so here is a question: is a "pro" controller like the VCI-100 appropriate for someone just starting (well i'm not like a total beginner, i never owned any DJ Equipment but have some basic experience..) i mean, are there any disadvantages for starting with a pro device? |
| Corine Kasman 22.04.2010 | Yeah, there are a LOT of choices out there. There is even more opinions. The choices start to look similar after a while and get grouped quickly in catagories: platter type; knob and button device; cheap copy of a BLANK; overpriced copy of a BLANK. The things you will find in models people migrate towards or stick with for a long time are: support network (this is the VCI, don't get me wrong in that it IS good, and that is why it gets a good support network here) and high quality (this is the X1, yes it is designed to go beside an analogue mixer, but it is just as suited to digital DJing). Your list is missing the Hercules Steel, which would be my choice over the Stealth. A good friend of mine runs an Omni (Stealth with average sound card), and to be honest I'm not impressed compared to a VCI-100. I haven't used a Hercules, but people that have them tend to love them and use them for quite a while, so that leads me to believe they are worth looking into. When I went looking for hardware, I started by looking at the Spin (rather looking FOR a Spin, they were impossible to find at the time). Then I found DJTT and after spending MANY hours reading the different reviews and opinions, I settled on the VCI with an A2DJ. My gear aquisition syndrome has had me get a bunch of other production stuff since, but my mix rig is still the same and probably will be for quite a while (to be joined by a Midi Fighter when they are available again). The Korg Nano series suffers from a low quality reputation, they have been known to be "throw away" items. Most around here will steer you in the direction of the Akai LPD8 instead (they make a nice little keyboard, too). Whew, that got long winded. Phil. |
| Tuan Meka 22.04.2010 | about the X1, i could use the upper part for EQ, but since there are no faders how do i set the volume and pitch?? i even thought about buying the Korg Nanoseries bundle, it's super portable and i have everything i need: buttons, faders, knobs, pads so here are my options: - Vestax Typhoon: @pilmat: Typhoon comes with LE, that's why this instead of Spin! - Numark Stealth Control: i heard about some problems with Traktor Pro.. cms with LE - UC-33: no traktor LE, and very few buttons, but at a good price - Nanoseries Bundle: no traktor LE, but the do look cool! - X1: comes with LE, but isn't it more appropriate to work with analogue mixers?? - Reloop Digital Jockey 2: comes with LE, haven't heard much about it... i wonder how you guys make your decisions when you buy your gears...there's so much out there....and it's not that cheap either.......... |
| Al Henger 21.04.2010 | X1 is definitely a good choiice, or perhaps some 1Ds. The only downside is you dont have a crossfader with that setup. Its not a big deal for me, because I find myself very rarely using the xfader, if at all. The only thing I need the xfader for is quick cuts, and I can pretty much just route that to a button on the akai haha. |
| Tuan Meka 21.04.2010 | so one of my dj friends offered to sell me his used uc33 wich is in good condition.. right now i'm even more confused: the uc33 has many knobs and faders but very few unresponsive buttons..on the other hand i could add an usb keyboard "Earl-Panda-style" for all the buttons! or even a nano pad? to tell you the truth, i would still prefer an interface which emulates a mixer-cdj setup like the Stealth Control (btw. does it even work with Traktor Pro?) of one thing i'm sure, i need the software first...but i'm just waiting to decide what to buy just in case i get an LE version! |
| Corine Kasman 21.04.2010 | Good point, sine. A modular setup would be good for the OP too. As they need Traktor anyways, maybe a Kontrol X1 would be a good starting point (it has Traktor LE). And let's not forget that smart keyboard mapping can cover some pretty wide needs. Phil. |
| Al Henger 21.04.2010 | you can get a used vci 100 for around 300 bucks. I would go with that mainly from the build quality (metal construction). If not, I'd look into a mobile setup, 2 akai lpd8s would do ya. Idk. |
| Corine Kasman 21.04.2010 | Hi and welcome to the community
s. As you already have a sound card, and a well reputed one on top of that, you might be able to get your hands on a Numark Steath or Hercules Steel for the same money as the Typhoon. I'm not putting down down the Spin/Typhoon, but you can do more with either of the above. Trust me that if today you do not see the need for the buttons and knobs, you will quickly find yourself looking for them. As a side note, why the Typhoon over the Spin? I thought the Typhoon was more geared towards the PC. Phil. |
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