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S4 sound quality question ?
Posted on: 21.06.2011 by George Schelhaas
Hello all DJTT
I want to buy s4 but a friend of mine /dj/ told me that the sound quality wont be as good as turntable or cd player and he told me that its better to buy 2 pioneer 800's and a mixer and the sound will be better ... and i've read that the quaity of the s4 is better if its connected via audio 4/8/10 dj ??? I want to have s4 and later to buy 2x 1200's with timecode + midifighter or dicers ... for me this is the gear what i should have, but i want to hear your opinions. cheers
Diogo Dj Dragão
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by badman
p.s i was playing in a club and a dj next to me asked me "How do you change the chanel which you are listening to in your headphones ? Is this phono/line switch ..."
George Schelhaas
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by nem0nic
99.9999% of people who talk about sound quality have no fucking clue what they're talking about. They've never actually measured things like frequency response or distortion, and don't know how to intelligently describe issues pertaining to audio quality.

Take EVERYTHING your friend says with a grain of salt. I'm not trying to be snarky here at all. It's just a fact that most people (and especially DJs - sorry) don't bother learning about audio, hearing, gain structure, or anything else beyond mixing. Making a blanket statement like your friend did is pretty stupid if you know anything about audio.
I support your opinion. For me its not just pc/cd/turntables + mixer and BUM !! you are the next TIESTO or something ... here are a lot of electrical stuff connected with music production which ppl have to learn. 10x very much for yall answers

p.s i was playing in a club and a dj next to me asked me "How do you change the chanel which you are listening to in your headphones ? Is this phono/line switch ..."
Nedra Fresneda
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by badman
yeah he's dnb dj which is spinnin on cd's ... probably your answer is the best and about the quality of s4 + audio 6/8/10dj i've read it here in this community , 1 guy was selling both and was saying that the quality is better with an audio card
They all share the same components, the only difference between NI's soundcards is I/O's and timecode compatibility. You will get the same results by getting an Audio 2/4/6/8/10.
George Schelhaas
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Turntables sound a bit different by their very nature, not necessarily better. There's no difference between CDJs and PC audio from a good sound card, it's just something CD DJs like to say to make people believe controllers are shit.
yeah he's dnb dj which is spinnin on cd's ... probably your answer is the best and about the quality of s4 + audio 6/8/10dj i've read it here in this community , 1 guy was selling both and was saying that the quality is better with an audio card
Nedra Fresneda
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
it's just something CD DJs like to say to make people believe controllers are shit.
Basically this.
George Schelhaas
21.06.2011		Hello all DJTT
I want to buy s4 but a friend of mine /dj/ told me that the sound quality wont be as good as turntable or cd player and he told me that its better to buy 2 pioneer 800's and a mixer and the sound will be better ... and i've read that the quaity of the s4 is better if its connected via audio 4/8/10 dj ??? I want to have s4 and later to buy 2x 1200's with timecode + midifighter or dicers ... for me this is the gear what i should have, but i want to hear your opinions. cheers
Diogo Dj Dragão
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by badman
p.s i was playing in a club and a dj next to me asked me "How do you change the chanel which you are listening to in your headphones ? Is this phono/line switch ..."
George Schelhaas
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by nem0nic
99.9999% of people who talk about sound quality have no fucking clue what they're talking about. They've never actually measured things like frequency response or distortion, and don't know how to intelligently describe issues pertaining to audio quality.

Take EVERYTHING your friend says with a grain of salt. I'm not trying to be snarky here at all. It's just a fact that most people (and especially DJs - sorry) don't bother learning about audio, hearing, gain structure, or anything else beyond mixing. Making a blanket statement like your friend did is pretty stupid if you know anything about audio.
I support your opinion. For me its not just pc/cd/turntables + mixer and BUM !! you are the next TIESTO or something ... here are a lot of electrical stuff connected with music production which ppl have to learn. 10x very much for yall answers

p.s i was playing in a club and a dj next to me asked me "How do you change the chanel which you are listening to in your headphones ? Is this phono/line switch ..."
Diogo Dj Dragão
21.06.2011		99.9999% of people who talk about sound quality have no fucking clue what they're talking about. They've never actually measured things like frequency response or distortion, and don't know how to intelligently describe issues pertaining to audio quality.

Take EVERYTHING your friend says with a grain of salt. I'm not trying to be snarky here at all. It's just a fact that most people (and especially DJs - sorry) don't bother learning about audio, hearing, gain structure, or anything else beyond mixing. Making a blanket statement like your friend did is pretty stupid if you know anything about audio.
Nedra Fresneda
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by badman
yeah he's dnb dj which is spinnin on cd's ... probably your answer is the best and about the quality of s4 + audio 6/8/10dj i've read it here in this community , 1 guy was selling both and was saying that the quality is better with an audio card
They all share the same components, the only difference between NI's soundcards is I/O's and timecode compatibility. You will get the same results by getting an Audio 2/4/6/8/10.
George Schelhaas
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Turntables sound a bit different by their very nature, not necessarily better. There's no difference between CDJs and PC audio from a good sound card, it's just something CD DJs like to say to make people believe controllers are shit.
yeah he's dnb dj which is spinnin on cd's ... probably your answer is the best and about the quality of s4 + audio 6/8/10dj i've read it here in this community , 1 guy was selling both and was saying that the quality is better with an audio card
Nedra Fresneda
21.06.2011
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
it's just something CD DJs like to say to make people believe controllers are shit.
Basically this.
Tatum Ansaldo
21.06.2011		Turntables sound a bit different by their very nature, not necessarily better. There's no difference between CDJs and PC audio from a good sound card, it's just something CD DJs like to say to make people believe controllers are shit.
George Schelhaas
21.06.2011		both s4 and 800's have 24-bit/96kHz but that man told me that there is difference in what you're hearing (cd's/turntables Or some kind of music which is coming out from a pc) :?
Nedra Fresneda
21.06.2011		I don't know who you talked to but they are plainly wrong. The S4 soundcard does the job just fine like any of NI's soundcards. You shouldn't have any sound issues running it with timecode either.

PS: Pio's CDJs don't sound better.
Kristofer Krauel
21.06.2011		The S4 sooundcard is pretty much an Audio 4 anyway. Better sound quality will depend what mixer you buy. As far as i know the cdj 800's wont make one bit of difference to the sound quality.

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