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Max number of X1s?
Posted on: 04.08.2011 by Geri Krieger
Just a thought with the new offer. Does anyone know if it's possible to say use 4 X1s together in traktor for 4 decks and 4 effects units without having to resort to shifts and double mappings? That would be a low-profile beast.
Janell Selser
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
I use my LPD8 with the turntables my club supplies. I've mapped it just like an X1 actually.

Just because I believe throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it doesn't make me a dick any more than you being sarcastic and obnoxious doesn't make you a pretentious asshole.


Also, that's kind of like saying why do you use a pencil and an eraser to write when the pencil already has an eraser on the end. When I'm saying you don't need 4 pens to write an essay.
Thanks for not calling me an asshole for commenting on your dickishness. I like your pen/pencil analogy so lets go with this.
He's aware that these exist

but asks if he could use these instead

If I have no opinion on the matter or nothing positive to add I don't respond. But you felt the need to jump in and call him stupid for asking.
Jacquelyn Swiatkowski
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Tha Gooch
Surely you don't use that LPD8 alognside you're S4 since the S4 can in theory control all of the necessary Traktor functions? I never understand how people can waste time being a **** on the internet, lifes too short. To the OP, I would just map your code and be done with it.
I use my LPD8 with the turntables my club supplies. I've mapped it just like an X1 actually.

Just because I believe throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it doesn't make me a dick any more than you being sarcastic and obnoxious doesn't make you a pretentious asshole.


Also, that's kind of like saying why do you use a pencil and an eraser to write when the pencil already has an eraser on the end. When I'm saying you don't need 4 pens to write an essay.
Janell Selser
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
That one time you MIGHT want to do this simply so it gets you off. Sounds really really stupid to me.
Surely you don't use that LPD8 alognside you're S4 since the S4 can in theory control all of the necessary Traktor functions? I never understand how people can waste time being a dick on the internet, lifes too short. To the OP, I would just map your code and be done with it.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
That one time you MIGHT want to do this simply so it gets you off. Sounds really really stupid to me.
That one time? Simply so it gets me off? What are you talking about?

Last time I checked everyone was djing because they enjoyed it and I'm supposing people buy different setups because they want different things.

I'm guessing you didn't read this thread...
http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=34195
Jacquelyn Swiatkowski
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
It's not the actual act of using a shift function I dislike. I like having all the controls at my disposal in the same place all the time. Maybe I decide I want to use a filter and halfway through I want to use a bit of reverb on the end, but there's no reverb on the two effects banks iv selected. What if I always want to do two things at once and one of the things I want to do is on another layer or mode or bank. I've only got two hands.

I can't see the second hand ones going for $200 when a new one includes tp2.
That one time you MIGHT want to do this simply so it gets you off. Sounds really really stupid to me.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011		Even if you can't sell the license you could do it the other way round. If you were about to buy tp2 (at least over here in
Nedra Fresneda
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
Cheers Padi I never thought of that.

I know some people don't like the internal mixer but I believe it's great.
Well, I hope you like rotary mixers then
Nedra Fresneda
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
I can't see the second hand ones going for $200 when a new one includes tp2.
Assuming the license can be sold separately, something we don't know yet.
Janell Selser
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
I use my LPD8 with the turntables my club supplies. I've mapped it just like an X1 actually.

Just because I believe throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it doesn't make me a dick any more than you being sarcastic and obnoxious doesn't make you a pretentious asshole.


Also, that's kind of like saying why do you use a pencil and an eraser to write when the pencil already has an eraser on the end. When I'm saying you don't need 4 pens to write an essay.
Thanks for not calling me an asshole for commenting on your dickishness. I like your pen/pencil analogy so lets go with this.
He's aware that these exist

but asks if he could use these instead

If I have no opinion on the matter or nothing positive to add I don't respond. But you felt the need to jump in and call him stupid for asking.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011		I certainly wouldn't read any essay you've written topps, that might just be the single worst attempt at simile I've ever seen. If you thought I was throwing money at a problem fine, but really not what I asked and I believe you prob could have just said exactly that.

I don't want 4 x1's. My original post was just asking if it was possible. I don't have any experience with the X1, but I have been told by NI that you can't use more than one maschine on any one computer but that the X1 was designed different so that you could use two together. So I thought I'd ask if 4 was possible.

My friend was playing on my decks the other evening and was interested in buying some controllers and he said he didn't really want jog wheels since he preferred the cue points, when I showed him the mixtrack pro and s4. He picked things up quite quick and said that he'd rather buy something he could learn than having to upgrade. I was looking for what I would go for, I personally believe learning would be easier to have all the controls at hand, I've been djing a while and like it that way and I like the idea of a slimmed down set up since I'd go for only midi control. So I've just been brainstorming what I would buy if I didn't have my current set up, nothing else out at the moment really excites me personally and the new offer on the X1s made me wonder if that was an option.

Thanks to the individuals that gave helpful, constructive replies. This place really is getting quite prickly at times.
Dino Hapgood
04.08.2011		You have a maschine and you want 4 x1s? If people can control all they need to in ableton with an apc40 I don't get why you would need 4 x1s? Why not just buy an apc40, map that and your maschine. That should be more than enough for what you want.
Jacquelyn Swiatkowski
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Tha Gooch
Surely you don't use that LPD8 alognside you're S4 since the S4 can in theory control all of the necessary Traktor functions? I never understand how people can waste time being a **** on the internet, lifes too short. To the OP, I would just map your code and be done with it.
I use my LPD8 with the turntables my club supplies. I've mapped it just like an X1 actually.

Just because I believe throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it doesn't make me a dick any more than you being sarcastic and obnoxious doesn't make you a pretentious asshole.


Also, that's kind of like saying why do you use a pencil and an eraser to write when the pencil already has an eraser on the end. When I'm saying you don't need 4 pens to write an essay.
Ivy Adrian
04.08.2011		I hate shift as well, but would more than likely be better just to use a ohm64 or the likes instead and just set it up like that
Janell Selser
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
That one time you MIGHT want to do this simply so it gets you off. Sounds really really stupid to me.
Surely you don't use that LPD8 alognside you're S4 since the S4 can in theory control all of the necessary Traktor functions? I never understand how people can waste time being a dick on the internet, lifes too short. To the OP, I would just map your code and be done with it.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
That one time you MIGHT want to do this simply so it gets you off. Sounds really really stupid to me.
That one time? Simply so it gets me off? What are you talking about?

Last time I checked everyone was djing because they enjoyed it and I'm supposing people buy different setups because they want different things.

I'm guessing you didn't read this thread...
http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=34195
Brock Ricapito
04.08.2011		I dont see why Traktor couldnt read 4 X1's, since they all have their own 'identities' because of serials in the Controller manager. I believe it's a rather silly idea and this could definitely be achieved in a more cost effective way, and probably with a more reasonable layout too!

@Topps: I agree with you that this is a terri-bad idea, but I also have to ask - who pissed in your cereal this morning? no need to womp this guy repeatedly in this thread for bringing up an idea.
Jacquelyn Swiatkowski
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
It's not the actual act of using a shift function I dislike. I like having all the controls at my disposal in the same place all the time. Maybe I decide I want to use a filter and halfway through I want to use a bit of reverb on the end, but there's no reverb on the two effects banks iv selected. What if I always want to do two things at once and one of the things I want to do is on another layer or mode or bank. I've only got two hands.

I can't see the second hand ones going for $200 when a new one includes tp2.
That one time you MIGHT want to do this simply so it gets you off. Sounds really really stupid to me.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011		Yeah you could easily throw 4 x1's in your bag with a laptop and an audio 2 and you'd have loads of control!
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011		Just an idea really, I'm waiting on an OHM-rgb and code arriving and was just believeing about other options. I know some people love smooth mixes and the rotary mixers are meant to be good for that I spose, never really tried one.

...just incase Topps is still reading I'll be using my new controllers for Ableton production too and I'll assign the minimum number of buttons to traktor that I can bare.
Breana Singerman
04.08.2011		Abletom might be onto something, been contemplating this myself lately. Just trying to a find a way to slim down my setup and 4 X1's with a Nanokontrol seems like a good place to start for me.

Been looking for some X1's on the cheap lately, but nothing yet. Hopefully they'll be coming out with a new "X2" soon so I can scoop them up on the cheap!
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011		Even if you can't sell the license you could do it the other way round. If you were about to buy tp2 (at least over here in
Nedra Fresneda
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
Cheers Padi I never thought of that.

I know some people don't like the internal mixer but I believe it's great.
Well, I hope you like rotary mixers then
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011		Cheers Padi I never thought of that.

I know some people don't like the internal mixer but I believe it's great.

When I play out I hate having to plug in more channels to the house mixer when another dj's on and don't see the sense in taking another bulky mixer that processes audio when all I need is some knobs and button to send midi to control the internal mixer. I've got maschine and the build quality is awesome.
Nedra Fresneda
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
I can't see the second hand ones going for $200 when a new one includes tp2.
Assuming the license can be sold separately, something we don't know yet.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
I could care less that you use the sync button. To me spending $200+ for each X1 just because you don't like using shift is seriously concerning. Throwing money at something doesn't make it better.
It's not the actual act of using a shift function I dislike. I like having all the controls at my disposal in the same place all the time. Maybe I decide I want to use a filter and halfway through I want to use a bit of reverb on the end, but there's no reverb on the two effects banks iv selected. What if I always want to do two things at once and one of the things I want to do is on another layer or mode or bank. I've only got two hands.

I can't see the second hand ones going for $200 when a new one includes tp2.
Nedra Fresneda
04.08.2011		I believe Traktor only recognizes a pair in HID, but I might be wrong. You might use the extra pair in MIDI tho.

Mail support, better hear it from them before dropping $800.
Jacquelyn Swiatkowski
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
Wo wo wo! I believe you've confused this with a 'sync is the devil / I'm better than you' thread. Who said I want to mix smoothly? Who said I can't? Who said I want to? Why can't I just not like shift functions? Why had I "better" achieve the near impossible and impress you?

If someone's using two of them and a mixer, is the mixer overkill? Have you really thought this through? I haven't, I've just asked a simple question, in good faith, maybe I hope it might start an interesting debate.
I could care less that you use the sync button. To me spending $200+ for each X1 just because you don't like using shift is seriously concerning. Throwing money at something doesn't make it better.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by Topps
this is the biggest overkill of them all

You won't be beatmatching with the x1's obviously and if you seriously need 4 of them to be able to DJ 'smoothly' then you better be doing some ridiculous stuff. Things I'd even argue are physically impossible.
Wo wo wo! I believe you've confused this with a 'sync is the devil / I'm better than you' thread. Who said I want to mix smoothly? Who said I can't? Who said I want to? Why can't I just not like shift functions? Why had I "better" achieve the near impossible and impress you?

If someone's using two of them and a mixer, is the mixer overkill? Have you really thought this through? I haven't, I've just asked a simple question, in good faith, maybe I hope it might start an interesting debate.
Cristian Carmona
04.08.2011		2 X1's with no mapping issues after that its over kill.
Jacquelyn Swiatkowski
04.08.2011		this is the biggest overkill of them all

You won't be beatmatching with the x1's obviously and if you seriously need 4 of them to be able to DJ 'smoothly' then you better be doing some ridiculous stuff. Things I'd even argue are physically impossible.
Charline Dye
04.08.2011		Why do you say seriously, but give no input as to why you say that?

If it is possible(which I believe it is) the one deck to one controller set up would be nice. I realize that for regular 2 deck DJing it would be a little overkill for some, but having everything available instantly without having to switch layers would make the workflow a lot easier. Also 4 X1s are smaller than 2 turntables so the size issue isn't a problem.
Geri Krieger
04.08.2011		Yeah why not?!

Just an idea but, people rave about the things and the only thing that turns me off is the shift functions. 4 of them would prob still only be the size of a 1210 and simple arbitrage is going to cause their price to tumble.
Jacquelyn Swiatkowski
04.08.2011
Originally Posted by abletom
Just a thought with the new offer. Does anyone know if it's possible to say use 4 X1s together in traktor for 4 decks and 4 effects units without having to resort to shifts and double mappings? That would be a low-profile beast.
seriously?

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