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I need my BPM out of Traktor?!
Posted on: 23.03.2011 by Joya Pomerinke
Hi!

As i'm doing a show with a friend who is doing Visuals and lights i'm looking for other ways to get the BPM out of Traktor than the Clock function.

He uses Martin Lightjockey and there isn't a "sync to midiclock" function.

Can i (and if so: how?) get the BPM out of traktor as a midi on off, a tick or something else?
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.09.2011
Originally Posted by 2BaysDJs
I've got the midi out of the actual S4 Controller, into the midi in on the padkontrol. I am trying to send out a midi timecode from traktor on one laptop into lightjockey on another. the reason I'm going through the padKONTROL is because that is what I have in my arsenal, and I didn't want to go out and spend the money if the pad would work. Right now I can get midi-ox on the second computer to read timecoded signals coming in, but I cannot get LightJockey to recognize them. I've set up lightjockey to have the MIDI timecode device as padKONTROL 1 midi in. I don't know if I'm missing something.
cool - well at least if midi-ox can see the messages then it can only be a software issue (of some kind) with lighjockey then. i actually didn't realise that the S4 had *real* midi ports - that's kind of cool... so you're basically using the S4 and padkontrol in the same way as i described using 2 cheap usb/midi adapters.

a quick google came up with some info that lightjockey can trigger stuff from midi on/off events - but couldn't see anything about actual "sync"

Using MIDI note commands LightJockey can launch sequences (flash sequences, see cue control), cues, background cues and cue lists.
from: http://www.martin.com/fORUM/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19056
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.09.2011
Originally Posted by 2BaysDJs
I believe midi clock would be the best solution. I'm trying to send signal out my Traktor S4 midi output through my padkontrol midi into another window 7 laptop with LightJockey, but I can't get light jockey to read the signals incoming. LightJockey. I've set up the MTC device as the padKontrol 1 Midi in, but when I try to log the midi timecode it doesn't register anything. I'm relatively new to using midi so I might be overlooking something.
you're sending traktors midi out to your padkontrol which has a "THRU" actual midi port on the back which you have connected to the "IN" of another laptop?

i havent any clue about the padkontrol - but if it has a real midi "THRU" port which will route the midi you are sending it (via usb or midi "IN"?) then a midi cable from that "THRU" to the "IN" of the 2nd laptop should work in theory.

you're using a "midi 2 usb" adapter thing on the 2nd laptop to get the real midi input into it? what happens if you try sending other midi data from traktor (like a beatphase monitor) to the padkontrol?

have you tried running something like midi-ox on that 2nd laptop to see if it sees any data? too many variables atm to know who the culprit is...

i presume when you mentioned S4 that's only in reference to the traktor version you are using - as the S4 controller wouldn't come into play here afaics.
Joya Pomerinke
23.03.2011
Hi!

As i'm doing a show with a friend who is doing Visuals and lights i'm looking for other ways to get the BPM out of Traktor than the Clock function.

He uses Martin Lightjockey and there isn't a "sync to midiclock" function.

Can i (and if so: how?) get the BPM out of traktor as a midi on off, a tick or something else?
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.09.2011
Originally Posted by 2BaysDJs
I've got the midi out of the actual S4 Controller, into the midi in on the padkontrol. I am trying to send out a midi timecode from traktor on one laptop into lightjockey on another. the reason I'm going through the padKONTROL is because that is what I have in my arsenal, and I didn't want to go out and spend the money if the pad would work. Right now I can get midi-ox on the second computer to read timecoded signals coming in, but I cannot get LightJockey to recognize them. I've set up lightjockey to have the MIDI timecode device as padKONTROL 1 midi in. I don't know if I'm missing something.
cool - well at least if midi-ox can see the messages then it can only be a software issue (of some kind) with lighjockey then. i actually didn't realise that the S4 had *real* midi ports - that's kind of cool... so you're basically using the S4 and padkontrol in the same way as i described using 2 cheap usb/midi adapters.

a quick google came up with some info that lightjockey can trigger stuff from midi on/off events - but couldn't see anything about actual "sync"

Using MIDI note commands LightJockey can launch sequences (flash sequences, see cue control), cues, background cues and cue lists.
from: http://www.martin.com/fORUM/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19056
Tesha Zazzi
23.09.2011
I've got the midi out of the actual S4 Controller, into the midi in on the padkontrol. I am trying to send out a midi timecode from traktor on one laptop into lightjockey on another. the reason I'm going through the padKONTROL is because that is what I have in my arsenal, and I didn't want to go out and spend the money if the pad would work. Right now I can get midi-ox on the second computer to read timecoded signals coming in, but I cannot get LightJockey to recognize them. I've set up lightjockey to have the MIDI timecode device as padKONTROL 1 midi in. I don't know if I'm missing something.
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.09.2011
a quick look at the spec says the padkontrol only has a midi in port and out port - so no thru port.

back in the day when real midi ports were more common i remember a couple of my synths being able to use their out's as thru's but i presume you'd need to configure that somewhere?

an out just xmits any data generated by that instrument, while a thru routes any data that came in back out again so you can daisy chain a whole bunch together without needing midi thru boxes.

edit: you could probably use a virtual midi device on each laptop and then use a midi to ip app to transmit, but as they're going to be close together anyway why not just buy two cheap usb-to-midi adapters from ebay for a few quid each and then just use a midi cable direct between them? i.e: take the padkontrol out of the equation...
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.09.2011
Originally Posted by 2BaysDJs
I believe midi clock would be the best solution. I'm trying to send signal out my Traktor S4 midi output through my padkontrol midi into another window 7 laptop with LightJockey, but I can't get light jockey to read the signals incoming. LightJockey. I've set up the MTC device as the padKontrol 1 Midi in, but when I try to log the midi timecode it doesn't register anything. I'm relatively new to using midi so I might be overlooking something.
you're sending traktors midi out to your padkontrol which has a "THRU" actual midi port on the back which you have connected to the "IN" of another laptop?

i havent any clue about the padkontrol - but if it has a real midi "THRU" port which will route the midi you are sending it (via usb or midi "IN"?) then a midi cable from that "THRU" to the "IN" of the 2nd laptop should work in theory.

you're using a "midi 2 usb" adapter thing on the 2nd laptop to get the real midi input into it? what happens if you try sending other midi data from traktor (like a beatphase monitor) to the padkontrol?

have you tried running something like midi-ox on that 2nd laptop to see if it sees any data? too many variables atm to know who the culprit is...

i presume when you mentioned S4 that's only in reference to the traktor version you are using - as the S4 controller wouldn't come into play here afaics.
Tesha Zazzi
23.09.2011
I believe midi clock would be the best solution. I'm trying to send signal out my Traktor S4 midi output through my padkontrol midi into another window 7 laptop with LightJockey, but I can't get light jockey to read the signals incoming. LightJockey. I've set up the MTC device as the padKontrol 1 Midi in, but when I try to log the midi timecode it doesn't register anything. I'm relatively new to using midi so I might be overlooking something.
Chasidy Heckenbach
23.09.2011
if u just need an on/off for the beats then use the beat phase monitor - tho there's one for each deck. if you're going to feed this midi into something else then not sure why the midi clock isnt the bed solution anyway?
Tesha Zazzi
23.09.2011
Zster, I'm trying to work around the same problem. Have you found any good solutions?

24.03.2011
most visualisation programs should have the option to read an audio input and determine BPM by themselves.
Inez Marcinik
24.03.2011
does the bpm change a lot in your sets? most people just type the bpm in seperately rather than have it sync'd its usually a bit more hassle than its worth.
Joya Pomerinke
24.03.2011
I'm using good ol' fashioned 1210's - the master is set to auto and it changes from deck to deck as it should.

There is midi out on the Audio 8 soundcard but i would prefer some kind of WIFI solution
Neville Blackinton
23.03.2011
Hi,

Well you need to provide a MIDI out from your setup to your friend. Do you have a MIDI interface? What kind of controller are you using?

If you don't have a MIDI interface then that is probably where you need to start.

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