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Two scs 3D or One X1 ?
Posted on: 01.10.2011 by Micha Tollas
Hey DJTT , i have one question :


i would like to use 4 deck in Traktor , i have already 2 controler with one mixer , but i hesitate between the X1 and two scs 3D .. what is better ?

And for soundcard i would like to take one ESI gigaport HD , i have read some review , he was good , wath do you believe about the ESI soundcard ?



Thanks in advance

D.julius
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
thanks for responce ! the scs are my future controler
cool... good choice... i believe they are excellent
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
announced for january in france !

Yes i love the scs 3d , i have tested them , it's really responsive and confortable with good feedback ! but he is really slim a need to raise it ..
sure - they aren't very tall - but the X1/K2 aren't either ofc - and so need to sit on top of something.

How to change the style of led feedback ?
ah well... it's just via midi you send to it. u can download a doc from stanton that describes the various messages u can send - to light up different areas.

im not sure what DaRouter lets u do as i haven't tried it in ages but i believe it supports most of the various options - depending on what mode the scs.3d is in.

the main area can be in circle, slider or button mode. each supports different midi messages.

as well as just telling it to turn on or off a single led u can light up combinations in any of these modes: peak, spread, boost or trace

u can do just about anything over midi with it that u would ever want to.

it does need either DaRouter or my midimasher to sit between traktor and the scs.3d tho to do all that stuff. i'll be releasing a version of my scs.3d code soon with my midimasher - tho DaRouter probably does all u would want.

it's definately a very cool controller - and a very neat size. i'm almost tempted to buy a 3rd tho i don't use these two together enough anyway...
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
i would like to use only two scs 3d as deck , no sampler , i would like to map filter , because i prefer to have one jog on my controler

Thanks for your response !
cool - then they would work very well for that.

the X1 is also very cool tho just down to personal choice really.

i would guess with the K2 coming in a few months that there will be a lot of X1's being sold 2nd hand, but maybe not for a month or two i guess.
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
we can mode the led feedback on the scs 3d?

the offer fort TSP2 is finish : Mad:
led feedback is very flexible on the scs.3d. they come with an app called DaRouter that gives u multiple layers etc and also i've coded some stuff in my midimasher app that replaces all of that and adds some cool stuff in like the spinning leds round the jogs etc.

the midi spec on the scs.3d is awesome.... each control sends out a bunch of stuff which makes it a very flexible controller to map for stuff like traktor.

i wouldn't mind a scs.3m too... but not to use as a mixer, just to map the faders to effects etc. i prefer to have actual pots/faders for more tactile control on a mixer - but the scs.3m can be used for anything of course.
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
okay , i don't know , maybe one x1 because i can't wait untill january and this controler have good effet section but i love the trigger mode one the scs 3d
if the X1 offer is still on then that's a good deal with TP2. i don't remember whether it ended at the end of sep or oct tho.

trigger mode isn't bad at all on the scs.3d, i just prefer more tactile pads for that, but i could quite happily dj with just a single scs.3d if i had to.

i do love the led feedback on them...

i have mine setup so that the leds spin round the platter area when a tune is playing like on a cdj... it does look cool

there's plenty of 2nd hand scs.3d's around these days, i would probably pick up one of those and then believe about a K2. well in fact that's exactly what i am doing...

the X1 is a very good controller too of course, i just believe the K2 will be a lot better and cheaper when u consider it has a soundcard and comes with a free case.
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
Hey DJTT , i have one question :
i would like to use 4 deck in Traktor , i have already 2 controler with one mixer , but i hesitate between the X1 and two scs 3D .. what is better ?
i agree with omnimode that the new K2 has to be worth waiting for if you are considering an X1

i loved my first scs.3d so much that i bought a 2nd one, but i haven't actually used them together yet, as you can do so much, with so many layers just with a single one.

if you want to use sample decks for C+D then you'd be better off with something with buttons like the X1/K2. for normal deck control and effects stuff the scs.3d is very cool... i tend to use it for effects as i don't have any encoders on my other controllers - but use my other controllers with buttons for more instant grat type stuff.

you can also get the scs.3d's pretty cheap - i paid 50quid for each of mine.

And for soundcard i would like to take one ESI gigaport HD , i have read some review , he was good , wath do you believe about the ESI soundcard ?
not sure about that soundcard but if u waited for the K2 it has a builtin soundcard anyway...

i was believeing about adding a X1 to my setup (not to use all at the same time ofc ) but wasnt 100% happy with its layout. the K2 however looks pretty much perfect to me...
Micha Tollas
01.10.2011
okay , in france i can have the scs 3d for 81
Micha Tollas
01.10.2011
Hey DJTT , i have one question :


i would like to use 4 deck in Traktor , i have already 2 controler with one mixer , but i hesitate between the X1 and two scs 3D .. what is better ?

And for soundcard i would like to take one ESI gigaport HD , i have read some review , he was good , wath do you believe about the ESI soundcard ?



Thanks in advance

D.julius
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
thanks for responce ! the scs are my future controler
cool... good choice... i believe they are excellent
Micha Tollas
01.10.2011
thanks for responce ! the scs are my future controler
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
announced for january in france !

Yes i love the scs 3d , i have tested them , it's really responsive and confortable with good feedback ! but he is really slim a need to raise it ..
sure - they aren't very tall - but the X1/K2 aren't either ofc - and so need to sit on top of something.

How to change the style of led feedback ?
ah well... it's just via midi you send to it. u can download a doc from stanton that describes the various messages u can send - to light up different areas.

im not sure what DaRouter lets u do as i haven't tried it in ages but i believe it supports most of the various options - depending on what mode the scs.3d is in.

the main area can be in circle, slider or button mode. each supports different midi messages.

as well as just telling it to turn on or off a single led u can light up combinations in any of these modes: peak, spread, boost or trace

u can do just about anything over midi with it that u would ever want to.

it does need either DaRouter or my midimasher to sit between traktor and the scs.3d tho to do all that stuff. i'll be releasing a version of my scs.3d code soon with my midimasher - tho DaRouter probably does all u would want.

it's definately a very cool controller - and a very neat size. i'm almost tempted to buy a 3rd tho i don't use these two together enough anyway...
Micha Tollas
01.10.2011
announced for january in france !

Yes i love the scs 3d , i have tested them , it's really responsive and confortable with good feedback ! but he is really slim a need to raise it ..

How to change the style of led feedback ?
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
i would like to use only two scs 3d as deck , no sampler , i would like to map filter , because i prefer to have one jog on my controler

Thanks for your response !
cool - then they would work very well for that.

the X1 is also very cool tho just down to personal choice really.

i would guess with the K2 coming in a few months that there will be a lot of X1's being sold 2nd hand, but maybe not for a month or two i guess.
Micha Tollas
01.10.2011
i would like to use only two scs 3d as deck , no sampler , i would like to map filter , because i prefer to have one jog on my controler

Thanks for your response !
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
we can mode the led feedback on the scs 3d?

the offer fort TSP2 is finish : Mad:
led feedback is very flexible on the scs.3d. they come with an app called DaRouter that gives u multiple layers etc and also i've coded some stuff in my midimasher app that replaces all of that and adds some cool stuff in like the spinning leds round the jogs etc.

the midi spec on the scs.3d is awesome.... each control sends out a bunch of stuff which makes it a very flexible controller to map for stuff like traktor.

i wouldn't mind a scs.3m too... but not to use as a mixer, just to map the faders to effects etc. i prefer to have actual pots/faders for more tactile control on a mixer - but the scs.3m can be used for anything of course.
Micha Tollas
01.10.2011
we can mode the led feedback on the scs 3d?

the offer fort TSP2 is finish : Mad:
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
okay , i don't know , maybe one x1 because i can't wait untill january and this controler have good effet section but i love the trigger mode one the scs 3d
if the X1 offer is still on then that's a good deal with TP2. i don't remember whether it ended at the end of sep or oct tho.

trigger mode isn't bad at all on the scs.3d, i just prefer more tactile pads for that, but i could quite happily dj with just a single scs.3d if i had to.

i do love the led feedback on them...

i have mine setup so that the leds spin round the platter area when a tune is playing like on a cdj... it does look cool

there's plenty of 2nd hand scs.3d's around these days, i would probably pick up one of those and then believe about a K2. well in fact that's exactly what i am doing...

the X1 is a very good controller too of course, i just believe the K2 will be a lot better and cheaper when u consider it has a soundcard and comes with a free case.
Micha Tollas
02.10.2011
okay , i don't know , maybe one x1 because i can't wait untill january and this controler have good effet section but i love the trigger mode one the scs 3d
Chasidy Heckenbach
01.10.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
Hey DJTT , i have one question :
i would like to use 4 deck in Traktor , i have already 2 controler with one mixer , but i hesitate between the X1 and two scs 3D .. what is better ?
i agree with omnimode that the new K2 has to be worth waiting for if you are considering an X1

i loved my first scs.3d so much that i bought a 2nd one, but i haven't actually used them together yet, as you can do so much, with so many layers just with a single one.

if you want to use sample decks for C+D then you'd be better off with something with buttons like the X1/K2. for normal deck control and effects stuff the scs.3d is very cool... i tend to use it for effects as i don't have any encoders on my other controllers - but use my other controllers with buttons for more instant grat type stuff.

you can also get the scs.3d's pretty cheap - i paid 50quid for each of mine.

And for soundcard i would like to take one ESI gigaport HD , i have read some review , he was good , wath do you believe about the ESI soundcard ?
not sure about that soundcard but if u waited for the K2 it has a builtin soundcard anyway...

i was believeing about adding a X1 to my setup (not to use all at the same time ofc ) but wasnt 100% happy with its layout. the K2 however looks pretty much perfect to me...
Micha Tollas
01.10.2011
okay , in france i can have the scs 3d for 81
Kayce Mesia
01.10.2011
I'd say wait for Xone's K2, since that looks very promising, and you might have a use for the built-in soundcard! But, if you're set on getting the X1 or scs.3Ds, the X1 has been the choice for many.

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