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Maschine advice (and Mikro discussion)
Posted on: 06.09.2011 by Brock Ricapito
I have been eyeing Maschine for a little while now and have done as much research as i could, as i always do before buying more gear. I am however having trouble grasping the flow of production using it. I realize everything is very personal when dealing with music production, but Maschine really seems tailored to producing hip-hoppy beats (i know there is a deep house production video, but i consider it to be an outlier in this case)
So I ask: how efficient/useful is maschine for other genres of music? I specifically am believeing techno, electro, and very minimal electronic. What could it do for these styles that couldn't be achieved easily with other controllers? I use ableton, so would it make sense to use maschine at all? can Maschine do things that are impossible/very difficult/complex to do in Ableton?

I'm really looking into purchasing the Maschine Mikro when it comes out on the 1rst. I'm surprised it isn;t being raved about here on the community s yet...
Dorie Scelzo
08.11.2011
Yeah
Dorie Scelzo
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
I know that with the original maschine it is so good that you rarely need to touch the computer, by the reduction of controls on the mikro does it somehow lose this?
Apparently, it can do everything. But I'd imagine it's really weird to do things like tweak effects and EQs.

Seriously, using Maschine is like using a groove box. The biggest advantage of the thing is that it's remarkably simple to produce a beat
Dorie Scelzo
08.11.2011
Yeah
Dorie Scelzo
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
I know that with the original maschine it is so good that you rarely need to touch the computer, by the reduction of controls on the mikro does it somehow lose this?
Apparently, it can do everything. But I'd imagine it's really weird to do things like tweak effects and EQs.

Seriously, using Maschine is like using a groove box. The biggest advantage of the thing is that it's remarkably simple to produce a beat
Brock Ricapito
06.09.2011
I have been eyeing Maschine for a little while now and have done as much research as i could, as i always do before buying more gear. I am however having trouble grasping the flow of production using it. I realize everything is very personal when dealing with music production, but Maschine really seems tailored to producing hip-hoppy beats (i know there is a deep house production video, but i consider it to be an outlier in this case)
So I ask: how efficient/useful is maschine for other genres of music? I specifically am believeing techno, electro, and very minimal electronic. What could it do for these styles that couldn't be achieved easily with other controllers? I use ableton, so would it make sense to use maschine at all? can Maschine do things that are impossible/very difficult/complex to do in Ableton?

I'm really looking into purchasing the Maschine Mikro when it comes out on the 1rst. I'm surprised it isn;t being raved about here on the community s yet...
Johnetta Olewine
14.11.2011
yeah the whole serial ransfer deal sounds like a fisting. Especially with the high moron concentration at NI support...
Nick Kingsley
14.11.2011
Also be careful buying used, the serial key needs to be unregistered just like traktor.
Nick Kingsley
14.11.2011
No it doesn't have to be done with the mouse, but it would be faster. You are using 1 knob to navigate the menus instead of 11 lol
Johnetta Olewine
14.11.2011
yeah fair enough. So all clip and sample selection on mikro has to be done with the mouse? Might look at 2nd hand big maschine mehtinks. Looking at it for beat making and live performace aspect. not neccesarily entire tune creation and full blown production.
Nick Kingsley
14.11.2011
The only reason i would want a mikro is if I was using it in a mobile studio or live.

I find myself scrolling through samples and kits too much that using the mikro would be a pain in the ass. If you're using it for production you really want the full sized. If you aren't going to get the full sized you might as well get a pad control or trigger finger. (if you already have a daw)
Johnetta Olewine
14.11.2011
so has anyone here who has the full size maschine used maschine mikro? I'd really like to hear some hands on feedback and the actual limitations/annoyances of the mikro.
Reece Murray
14.11.2011
I don't really like sequencing full songs on Maschine, but I love programming beats and instrument grooves on it. It's got a great library and sweet tools for pattern making, but I guess I'm part of the group that prefers to sequence the full track in a DAW. If you're just starting out though, I believe using Maschine alone would be fun and get the job done. I like the fact that you can easily switch between Maschine control and MIDI control when working in a DAW, plus the nice responsive pads. I actually find myself using a midi keyboard less and less, doing it all on the Maschine hardware.
Dorie Scelzo
08.11.2011
Yeah
Nick Kingsley
09.11.2011
Also if you decide to pick one up now, make sure you take advantage of the free plugin voucher and free tshirt. I picked up the transistor drum and synth pack.
Nick Kingsley
08.11.2011
I just picked up the full sized maschine like 2 weeks ago. Go for the full sized. The whole reason for getting a groove box is to be able to just kick back and bang out percussive patterns creatively. Having dedicated knobs for everything is a dream. Having to use the mouse to jump around or having to hold shift-alt for everything really takes away from it.

It's worth the extra money for the full size. Making things easier makes me more creative. Less time dealing with technical issues, more time to make music.
Dorie Scelzo
07.11.2011
Originally Posted by DJZILCH
I know that with the original maschine it is so good that you rarely need to touch the computer, by the reduction of controls on the mikro does it somehow lose this?
Apparently, it can do everything. But I'd imagine it's really weird to do things like tweak effects and EQs.

Seriously, using Maschine is like using a groove box. The biggest advantage of the thing is that it's remarkably simple to produce a beat
Adriana Bazzelle
06.11.2011
I love my full size maschine!
Super tight integration in CuBase 5. Easy adlib beats into Traktor and huge
built in library to get you started.

Plus since the release of Mikro you can usually pick up the original full size one for $350 off of craigslist. That's what I paid and that's where I got it.

I might even pick up another for my DJ SOUND CONTROL!
Kandra Fagler
06.11.2011
ok been watching a lot of videos of both the mikro and the normal maschine and found out that on the mikro it seems so redundant just to load samples, so many shift+something and hold something and then something (due to the control limitations), sure once you get used to it its probably fine but now im really believeing of just getting the full maschine lol
Barton Rigazio
06.11.2011
I'm also planning to buy the Maschine Mikro for my entry into the production world. I'm sold on the fact that it can almost be used entirely as DAW itself. Most people who are already producing with other DAWs and are more experience will most likely disagree, but for somebody starting out and with no production software at all, I believe the integration of soft+hardware of the Maschine is the right way to go!

Song mode is awesome!! There are tons of youtube videos ("maschinetutorials"/ SoundsAndGear/a guy named SaintJoe, and many others) which show the capabilities of the Maschine and Mikro.

I believe you just have to push a few more buttons to get around with the Mikro. Other than that, from what I've heard, the Mikro can do everything the original did, just in a smaller version.

Here's a thread on the Mikro I started a few months ago, just in case you'd like some more reading: http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=36630
Kandra Fagler
06.11.2011
hey guys I am really believeing of either getting the maschine or maschine mikro

question is other than the less rotaries, what else am I missing from the Maschine that is not in the maschine mikro?

Would the reduced amount of rotaries have so much effect on the overall workflow of the maschine? I know that with the original maschine it is so good that you rarely need to touch the computer, by the reduction of controls on the mikro does it somehow lose this?

thanks
May Artman
06.09.2011
The biggest advantage of Maschine is really the tight integration of the software and controller. Everything is laid out easily straight away for you. Many of the same things can certainly be done in Ableton or other DAWs with different controllers if you want to take the time to lay everything out to your liking.

how efficient/useful is maschine
That all depends on you, really. I often find myself just using a mouse/kb for production despite having controllers available because that's all I had when I started and its what I'm used to. That said, there is certainly nothing holding you back from applying the same methods you see in hip hop production to other genres.

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