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Ableton 9 who's getting it? What do you think so far?
Posted on: 05.03.2013 by Alla Bluemke
Well waiting to try to get it now. Servers are totally screwed, anyone get it yet?
Efrain Scharr
13.03.2013
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
if you go to library in preferences you can locate you live 8 library that should have that stuff. Mine automatically scanned to find them, but if not I believe you can do that.
They aren't showing under categories... I am looking for theLive 9 stuff...
Caleb Demillo
12.03.2013
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
So far thoughts on it are its nice cleaner UI. I'm using the 64 bit. Still working out some kinks on some of my VST's not all working correctly. Before I could just drag and drop vst's easily. Some reason its scans them and only picks out a few of them to work :/
You need to have the 64-bit versions of those plug-in's present, or they won't load.
Caleb Demillo
12.03.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
Yeah, you don't really need to be using the 64 bit version... Unless you were having major issues with Live 8 being slow and utilizing too much Ram.
Everyone should use the 64-bit version.

Push the manufacturers to get these things stable and working by logging defects against their products.
Alla Bluemke
13.03.2013
Haha. Yeah I realized it was scanning when I first got it, and let it sit for a few hours to find all my stuff! Well at least you got the remix done!
Efrain Scharr
13.03.2013
Nevermind... apparently the software was still scannong or something... didn't realize it. I was playing in Live the other day, but switched back to 8 to finish up a remix I had to do...so it never finished fully scanning... I feel stupid.

Thanks for the help though Guiltyblade. Much appreciated!
Alla Bluemke
13.03.2013
Oh....doesn't it download from their servers or something? Mine were automatically there when I downloaded. Maybe re-download? Did you get standard, or suite or what?

I found some located in my music folder under ableton for mac, at least my audio effects, and midi effects.
Efrain Scharr
13.03.2013
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
if you go to library in preferences you can locate you live 8 library that should have that stuff. Mine automatically scanned to find them, but if not I believe you can do that.
They aren't showing under categories... I am looking for theLive 9 stuff...
Alla Bluemke
13.03.2013
if you go to library in preferences you can locate you live 8 library that should have that stuff. Mine automatically scanned to find them, but if not I believe you can do that.
Efrain Scharr
13.03.2013
Anyone know where all my Live instruments, Live Audio Effects, and my Live Midi Effects may be? Do those need to be copied over from 8 or something?
Delfina Suedmeyer
13.03.2013
yes, been watching tutorials for the past two months or so. just beginning to put stuff together as im learning about effects , theory, and all that. looking at the review for push just seems like its going to make it so much easier hence, why im wondering if i should pick one up. the guitar center $100 off deal sounds worthwhile.
Alla Bluemke
13.03.2013
I will say its a lot easier to learn if you have a friend just sit down with you for literally like 2-3 hours and screw around making beats. It will suddenly be a lot easier to navigate and do things. I remember sitting there working with a buddy and had no idea there was a way to expand all my track windows open at the same time, he did it and my mind was blown. It was little things like that you may never learn without watching someone work. But as a begineer its fairly easy to use, easier then logic from my experience. Once you start you will be looking for loop, samples, and sounds like crazy!

Also really like the look of the push as well but its a little out of my price range at the moment. May wait for the price to come down to earth a little.
Geoffrey Sibilio
13.03.2013
anyone preorder push and get a ship date. I preordered from guitar center and the website says it ships around mar 18. I was just on abletons sight and it says 12-16 weeks???? is that just because there were so many preorders or is that the initial release and guitar center is just wrong?
Sylvia Greener
13.03.2013
Music production is nothing you're a pro at in an afternoon and every music production has some kind of learning curve. That being said, Ableton Live is a very good way to start! It's a nice and easy-to-use piece of software.
Monserrate Rupnow
13.03.2013
It's definitely easy enough for beginners, probably one of the easiest DAWs to learn in fact.
Delfina Suedmeyer
13.03.2013
question: can a beginner of music production pick this up and learn ableton for the first time? or does it take an advanced to intermediate person who knows the software in and out to pick this up? watching the review, it has made me really interested in getting one...just because how easy it looks to control ableton with the controller.

Seeing how effortless it can be to do something that you might of taken a bit longer using a mouse.
Alla Bluemke
12.03.2013
Yeah I believe thats the main problem. I am going to give the 32 bit a try instead.

*gave it a go and all is well.

couldn't use minimonsta, synth1, sylenth etc
Nedra Fresneda
12.03.2013
Might be because those vsts don't have a 64 bit version. 32bit vsts are not compatible with Ableton 64bit version and won't be shown in the browser if that is the case. Which are the ones giving you trouble?

https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/64bit-myths-facts/
Caleb Demillo
12.03.2013
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
So far thoughts on it are its nice cleaner UI. I'm using the 64 bit. Still working out some kinks on some of my VST's not all working correctly. Before I could just drag and drop vst's easily. Some reason its scans them and only picks out a few of them to work :/
You need to have the 64-bit versions of those plug-in's present, or they won't load.
Alla Bluemke
12.03.2013
So far thoughts on it are its nice cleaner UI. I'm using the 64 bit. Still working out some kinks on some of my VST's not all working correctly. Before I could just drag and drop vst's easily. Some reason its scans them and only picks out a few of them to work :/
Monserrate Rupnow
12.03.2013
Been using the 64bit version here since it was in beta, so far very few if any issues. The 64bit version seems to use a little less CPU, in testing but not enough to bother with if you're plug ins aren't 64bit ready. I personally dont hear any difference in Live 8 and Live 9 (in the core program, obviously the new plug ins are a seperate matter), and I was asked specifically to test that.

Otherwise, Live 9 mostly feels just like Live 8 to me.

Oh, and count me in the group that finds Live's GUI utterly boring and in need of an update. I love simple, non-realistic interface myself, but this is getting a bit long in the tooth IMVHO.
Caleb Demillo
12.03.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
Yeah, you don't really need to be using the 64 bit version... Unless you were having major issues with Live 8 being slow and utilizing too much Ram.
Everyone should use the 64-bit version.

Push the manufacturers to get these things stable and working by logging defects against their products.
Efrain Scharr
12.03.2013
Yeah, you don't really need to be using the 64 bit version... Unless you were having major issues with Live 8 being slow and utilizing too much Ram.
Caleb Demillo
12.03.2013
I bought it, and also pre-ordered push. I had to immediately change the default color scheme, it was really not quite contrasty enough for me. But that's not exactly a big deal

I installed the 64-bit version. So far it's been totally fine, and my plug-ins (Komplete 8 mostly) all seem to work.

I already have a Maschine, so I believe the Push might be somewhat overlapping. As much as I like Maschine, there are times where I want to do similar things in Live, and pulling things over from Maschine can be a kludge.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.03.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
+1 on this... I will never understand why people nee it to look like a video game. I just want clean simple, and for it to work really well. To each their own though...



Are you talking about Maschine? I downloaded Live 9 last evening but didn't get to test everything out. I am hoping my maschine is working out ok!
I take back my previous post, if you go to NI Update, in content updates there is a download for the new MK2 Template they released on the 7th
Nedra Fresneda
09.03.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
Waves 9 Padi?
Yeah Waves 9.8, works fine with x32 tho.

Sucks that I have to stick with x32, I've run into a few out of memory Ableton popups recently with Kontakt heavy projects. Would love to be able to take full advantage of the 8gb i have with Live.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
09.03.2013
Originally Posted by lapinfuu
I only use the 8 for one month and it seems the same to my ears operator make me sick it soud like alien technology to my ears but maybe it just an impression.
They simply recommend the 32 bit version because its called CYA. They even clearly state the facts, 64bit compiled routines do not affect how the CPU handles at all, just the ability to access additional memory.

The above Waves plugin problem anyways has nothing to do with Stability it has to do with Waves not supporting Ableton officially and Ableton not supporting VST Shell natively ;P
Vi Melroy
09.03.2013
Originally Posted by SJJVEN
Got the demo last evening , running the 64bit version and I'm liking it so far. Honestly I really like the simple design of the UI.
Is it just me or does it sound a bit better then live 8? I don't know if my ears are playing tricks on me but it sounds a bit better to me.
I only use the 8 for one month and it seems the same to my ears operator make me sick it soud like alien technology to my ears but maybe it just an impression.
Vi Melroy
09.03.2013
As they said on ableton website x64 isnt stable so go for the 32 for safety.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
08.03.2013
Originally Posted by padi_04
Is anyone else having issues with Waves bundle not showing in the x64 version?
Waves 9 Padi? The AUs are hit and miss in the 8 Beta for 64 bit, VSTs wont show up at all, same with 9. 32 bit is the only way to get them to work here on OSX. On Windows I have no issues no matter the platform. Both waves and ableton gave the same response "they dont support each other" lol. I know this was an issue awhile back for OSX but thought it had gotten resolved, I moved on from OSX though so Im afraid I cant be much more help than that.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
08.03.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
+1 on this... I will never understand why people nee it to look like a video game. I just want clean simple, and for it to work really well. To each their own though...



Are you talking about Maschine? I downloaded Live 9 last evening but didn't get to test everything out. I am hoping my maschine is working out ok!
Yep Lance. The Maschine Mk2 Script that previously worked in 8 does not work in 9. Its said that Native INstruments currently has a mapping beta so it should be ??soon??
Nedra Fresneda
08.03.2013
Is anyone else having issues with Waves bundle not showing in the x64 version?
Marcos Zelko
08.03.2013
Got the demo last evening , running the 64bit version and I'm liking it so far. Honestly I really like the simple design of the UI.
Is it just me or does it sound a bit better then live 8? I don't know if my ears are playing tricks on me but it sounds a bit better to me.
Nedra Fresneda
08.03.2013
That awesome moment when one of my Ableton students shows up today and buys me a Suite 9 license
Sylvia Greener
08.03.2013
Originally Posted by LanceBlaise
+1 on this... I will never understand why people nee it to look like a video game. I just want clean simple, and for it to work really well.
The same here. Ableton Live's plain look and quick and easy workflow is one of its biggest advantages.
Will get Live 9 in a couple of months as well. I really like the new EQ8 and the classic compressor remake as well as the glue compressor. The new browser looks very promising as well!
Unfortunately, some other investments have to go first...
Dino Marusa
08.03.2013
I've been trying it out over the past couple days, and while it's true that the finished product seems a bit underwhelming at first considering how long this has been in development, I believe the end result is greater than the sum of its parts. In other words, a lot of small tweaks have been made that (at least for me) improved Live's workflow quite significantly.

Only gripe I'm having is that it won't recognize a bunch of my plugins for some reason....
Vi Melroy
08.03.2013
New ableton user for me so I don know the program very well but I really like the new EQ8.
Efrain Scharr
08.03.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
Because the flat colors, solid lines and lack of shadows create less eye strain than say Logic or Pro Tools, with bevels, bubbles and shading. The idea behind the design was eye fatigue. Why do you need the DAW to "look" pretty? Oh well.. To each their own.
+1 on this... I will never understand why people nee it to look like a video game. I just want clean simple, and for it to work really well. To each their own though...

Originally Posted by balakoth
So far the downside is, Remote Scripts are broken for alot of devices until NI releases their beta mappings (ie: the MK2 for me )
Are you talking about Maschine? I downloaded Live 9 last evening but didn't get to test everything out. I am hoping my maschine is working out ok!
Lulu Dykhuizen
08.03.2013
I got the Suite upgrade the day it dropped, and have been poking around with all the new features since then.

I've really enjoyed what's packaged in there, especially the audio to midi thing. I ran Porter Robinson's "Language" through the harmony one, and it spat out this. It seems to handle the harmonies better when there aren't any drums in the mix, but I'm really impressed with it.
Corey Tronchin
08.03.2013
I really like it. The interface is a bit cleaner looking and more inspiring. Ok, it doesn't have a lot of new major features for 4 years of development, but I like that the sum of little improvements make it feel a whole lot more solid in every way.
Kandra Fagler
08.03.2013
i just got mine a few days ago - really loving it so far, love the new recordable automations and also love the audio to midi thing

overall it feels more of a "polish" than a "super ultra new ableton" but its looking really smooth

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