Pioneer CDJ-350

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Pioneer CDJ-350
Posted on: 02.12.2011 by Jody Goman
So i havent been dj'ing for too long....but i am fully obsessed. Its bad to say the least....

I have a VCI-100 Arcade with the NI audio 2 and I love it. I would like to add some CDJ's to the setup. I would love to find some CDJ-900's but i dont want to dive into something so expensive without even knowing if i will like them. I found some CDJ-350's for $250/each lightly used....Would love to hear some thoughts on both the gear and the price.

Also, im assuming that will mean i need at least a 2 channel mixer? Correct me if im wrong (which is very likely because I am very new to all this) but i cant use my vci-100 as the mixer for the cdj's right? With the assumption that i cant use the vci-100 as the mixer, i found a DJM-600 for like $500 used. Im going to try and buy it for like $300-$350 max. Thoughts on the pricing?? Is this mixer outdated?

Again, i apologize if some questions are stupid but im not trying to just throw away money without knowing what i am getting myself into. Any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Jody Goman
06.12.2011
Originally Posted by Conall
you dont need TSP to use cdj's with traktor.

also dont buy a DJM-600 they sound terrible
If i use cdj's in traktor dont i essentially lose scratching functionality and the cdjs are simply controllers?

Also i have ruled out the djm-600. Really want an s4 as i really want a controller still but want to have 4 channels.
Lynell Piechocinski
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Nicadraus
I would rather use CDJs with traktor than use MIDI controllers. It's all down to personal preference because I still find MIDI controllers very toyish. Well that's me but I'm sure it's not just me.
+1
Osvaldo Newhall
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by login
IMO using cdj's with software is pointless, the whole price for cdj's is for the choice of not using a computer in my perspective.
I would rather use CDJs with traktor than use MIDI controllers. It's all down to personal preference because I still find MIDI controllers very toyish. Well that's me but I'm sure it's not just me.
Jody Goman
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by login
IMO using cdj's with software is pointless, the whole price for cdj's is for the choice of not using a computer in my perspective.

I am pretty sure you could use cdj's, for transport controls, and vci to control traktor internal mixer and too use its audio output. But at that point you will be using a very expensive controller (cdj's).

I would prefer to get cdj 350, 850 or 9000, which ever get your preference a long a very good mixer that offer you quite good posibilites like the xone db2, or the evo 4, or denon dx 1600, etc.

Cdj's now can read usb stick, you organize your music in record box and are ready to go.

And one of the main reasons i am getting the 350 is because it does have the usb stick capability. So you are probably right in regards to the traktor use being pointless for the cdj's. I believe escapemcp had the idea of what i need. I will use traktor to control deck A&B and cdj's for C&D or vice versa.
Jody Goman
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by escapemcp
CDJ350 for $250 = cheap - too cheap... $250, really?
DJM600 for $500 = average

What U using the cdj's for?? To control traktor, or to play CDs with (without Traktor). If using the CDJs to control Traktor (via HID or Timecode CDs), then you could conceivably use the Vestax as your mixer (it's all down to how you map the controller). If using as a standalone, then yeah, you'll need a mixer (the Vestax is a midi controller).

Saying that, you could even buy the CDJs, route the audio into traktor (I believe the VCI100 will allow you to do this) and then mix inside traktor using the "External Input" on 2 decks. You won't see any nice waveforms on the "Enternal Input" decks (which your CDJs run into), but you could then use decks A+B for traktor, and C+D for your CDJ's... half the fun is working out what you want to do and how to do it!!

escapemcp

I thought that price for the cdj-350 was a steal. But I just found a brand new cdj-900 for $850 so thats almost even more tempting...

I plan on using the cdj's to control traktor. I would like them to be the main focus of the setup and have the vci as another component...if the vci could act as my mixer thats even better. Any mappings using cdj's and the vci anyone can recommend?
Sulema Eshel
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by csmith5888
So i havent been dj'ing for too long....but i am fully obsessed. Its bad to say the least....

I have a VCI-100 Arcade with the NI audio 2 and I love it. I would like to add some CDJ's to the setup. I would love to find some CDJ-900's but i dont want to dive into something so expensive without even knowing if i will like them. I found some CDJ-350's for $250/each lightly used....Would love to hear some thoughts on both the gear and the price.

Also, im assuming that will mean i need at least a 2 channel mixer? Correct me if im wrong (which is very likely because I am very new to all this) but i cant use my vci-100 as the mixer for the cdj's right? With the assumption that i cant use the vci-100 as the mixer, i found a DJM-600 for like $500 used. Im going to try and buy it for like $300-$350 max. Thoughts on the pricing?? Is this mixer outdated?

Again, i apologize if some questions are stupid but im not trying to just throw away money without knowing what i am getting myself into. Any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks.
CDJ350 for $250 = cheap - too cheap... $250, really?
DJM600 for $500 = average

What U using the cdj's for?? To control traktor, or to play CDs with (without Traktor). If using the CDJs to control Traktor (via HID or Timecode CDs), then you could conceivably use the Vestax as your mixer (it's all down to how you map the controller). If using as a standalone, then yeah, you'll need a mixer (the Vestax is a midi controller).

Saying that, you could even buy the CDJs, route the audio into traktor (I believe the VCI100 will allow you to do this) and then mix inside traktor using the "External Input" on 2 decks. You won't see any nice waveforms on the "Enternal Input" decks (which your CDJs run into), but you could then use decks A+B for traktor, and C+D for your CDJ's... half the fun is working out what you want to do and how to do it!!

escapemcp
Jody Goman
02.12.2011		So i havent been dj'ing for too long....but i am fully obsessed. Its bad to say the least....

I have a VCI-100 Arcade with the NI audio 2 and I love it. I would like to add some CDJ's to the setup. I would love to find some CDJ-900's but i dont want to dive into something so expensive without even knowing if i will like them. I found some CDJ-350's for $250/each lightly used....Would love to hear some thoughts on both the gear and the price.

Also, im assuming that will mean i need at least a 2 channel mixer? Correct me if im wrong (which is very likely because I am very new to all this) but i cant use my vci-100 as the mixer for the cdj's right? With the assumption that i cant use the vci-100 as the mixer, i found a DJM-600 for like $500 used. Im going to try and buy it for like $300-$350 max. Thoughts on the pricing?? Is this mixer outdated?

Again, i apologize if some questions are stupid but im not trying to just throw away money without knowing what i am getting myself into. Any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Jody Goman
06.12.2011
Originally Posted by Conall
you dont need TSP to use cdj's with traktor.

also dont buy a DJM-600 they sound terrible
If i use cdj's in traktor dont i essentially lose scratching functionality and the cdjs are simply controllers?

Also i have ruled out the djm-600. Really want an s4 as i really want a controller still but want to have 4 channels.
Inez Marcinik
05.12.2011		you dont need TSP to use cdj's with traktor.

also dont buy a DJM-600 they sound terrible
Rhett Dysard
05.12.2011		Why are you buying CDJ's when you are using and or going to use a 2 channel controller?

Sofware with CDJ's is, well, I don't want to say pointless. But its kinda pointless. Unless you have that much money to spend on a single deck controller with most of its functionality removed.
Chandra Lean
05.12.2011		you can run them both together, for TSP control you would need timecode, but that comes with TSP
Jody Goman
05.12.2011		not sure what to do here...picked up a cdj-350 for a great price and now i may be getting a cdj-400 as well. Can i run the 2 together ? Also, do i need cd timecodes for these cdj's?
Jody Goman
03.12.2011		So i bought 1 cdj-350 for now for $270. Cant wait for it to deliver....believe im going to bite the bullet and pickup a s2 or s4 shortly and if i like the feel of the cdj-350 ill pickup another. Thanks for all the input guys. Im sure ill be back here asking for help setting up once it comes as ill be using it with the vci-100 for now.
Lynell Piechocinski
03.12.2011
Originally Posted by Nicadraus
I would rather use CDJs with traktor than use MIDI controllers. It's all down to personal preference because I still find MIDI controllers very toyish. Well that's me but I'm sure it's not just me.
+1
Yee Bedilion
03.12.2011		Buy em and then sell em to me I'd say.

IF you believe its a steal then get it.

Definitely not a bank breaker if you change your mind
Branden Wentler
03.12.2011		Numark NDX800 are great CDJs that are awesome midi controllers as well. just a thought if you really want to use a setup like that. You won't get set back too much either.
Audrey Pinda
02.12.2011		Honestly, just get what you'll believe you'll be happy with for a long time.

It really depends on your mixing style and what you want out of it. Using CDJ's solely as MIDI controllers is a bit of overkill... but that's what a lot of people do. It's solid practice for hooking up to a club's system I would imagine. Just using the CDJ's and your soundcard and laptop (maybe an additional controller like the X1 or whatever).

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I also believe you'd probably benefit much more from a mixer like the DDM-4000 rather than an older model pioneer mixer. The DDM4000 is pretty beast, and MIDI mappable as well. And within your price range. Otherwise, there's something to be said for keeping it simple with a well built 2 channel mixer (looking at Rane or Vestax here).
Osvaldo Newhall
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by login
IMO using cdj's with software is pointless, the whole price for cdj's is for the choice of not using a computer in my perspective.
I would rather use CDJs with traktor than use MIDI controllers. It's all down to personal preference because I still find MIDI controllers very toyish. Well that's me but I'm sure it's not just me.
Jody Goman
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by login
IMO using cdj's with software is pointless, the whole price for cdj's is for the choice of not using a computer in my perspective.

I am pretty sure you could use cdj's, for transport controls, and vci to control traktor internal mixer and too use its audio output. But at that point you will be using a very expensive controller (cdj's).

I would prefer to get cdj 350, 850 or 9000, which ever get your preference a long a very good mixer that offer you quite good posibilites like the xone db2, or the evo 4, or denon dx 1600, etc.

Cdj's now can read usb stick, you organize your music in record box and are ready to go.

And one of the main reasons i am getting the 350 is because it does have the usb stick capability. So you are probably right in regards to the traktor use being pointless for the cdj's. I believe escapemcp had the idea of what i need. I will use traktor to control deck A&B and cdj's for C&D or vice versa.
Randell Koper
03.12.2011		IMO using cdj's with software is pointless, the whole price for cdj's is for the choice of not using a computer in my perspective.

I am pretty sure you could use cdj's, for transport controls, and vci to control traktor internal mixer and too use its audio output. But at that point you will be using a very expensive controller (cdj's).

I would prefer to get cdj 350, 850 or 9000, which ever get your preference a long a very good mixer that offer you quite good posibilites like the xone db2, or the evo 4, or denon dx 1600, etc.

Cdj's now can read usb stick, you organize your music in record box and are ready to go.
Jody Goman
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by escapemcp
CDJ350 for $250 = cheap - too cheap... $250, really?
DJM600 for $500 = average

What U using the cdj's for?? To control traktor, or to play CDs with (without Traktor). If using the CDJs to control Traktor (via HID or Timecode CDs), then you could conceivably use the Vestax as your mixer (it's all down to how you map the controller). If using as a standalone, then yeah, you'll need a mixer (the Vestax is a midi controller).

Saying that, you could even buy the CDJs, route the audio into traktor (I believe the VCI100 will allow you to do this) and then mix inside traktor using the "External Input" on 2 decks. You won't see any nice waveforms on the "Enternal Input" decks (which your CDJs run into), but you could then use decks A+B for traktor, and C+D for your CDJ's... half the fun is working out what you want to do and how to do it!!

escapemcp

I thought that price for the cdj-350 was a steal. But I just found a brand new cdj-900 for $850 so thats almost even more tempting...

I plan on using the cdj's to control traktor. I would like them to be the main focus of the setup and have the vci as another component...if the vci could act as my mixer thats even better. Any mappings using cdj's and the vci anyone can recommend?
Sulema Eshel
02.12.2011
Originally Posted by csmith5888
So i havent been dj'ing for too long....but i am fully obsessed. Its bad to say the least....

I have a VCI-100 Arcade with the NI audio 2 and I love it. I would like to add some CDJ's to the setup. I would love to find some CDJ-900's but i dont want to dive into something so expensive without even knowing if i will like them. I found some CDJ-350's for $250/each lightly used....Would love to hear some thoughts on both the gear and the price.

Also, im assuming that will mean i need at least a 2 channel mixer? Correct me if im wrong (which is very likely because I am very new to all this) but i cant use my vci-100 as the mixer for the cdj's right? With the assumption that i cant use the vci-100 as the mixer, i found a DJM-600 for like $500 used. Im going to try and buy it for like $300-$350 max. Thoughts on the pricing?? Is this mixer outdated?

Again, i apologize if some questions are stupid but im not trying to just throw away money without knowing what i am getting myself into. Any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks.
CDJ350 for $250 = cheap - too cheap... $250, really?
DJM600 for $500 = average

What U using the cdj's for?? To control traktor, or to play CDs with (without Traktor). If using the CDJs to control Traktor (via HID or Timecode CDs), then you could conceivably use the Vestax as your mixer (it's all down to how you map the controller). If using as a standalone, then yeah, you'll need a mixer (the Vestax is a midi controller).

Saying that, you could even buy the CDJs, route the audio into traktor (I believe the VCI100 will allow you to do this) and then mix inside traktor using the "External Input" on 2 decks. You won't see any nice waveforms on the "Enternal Input" decks (which your CDJs run into), but you could then use decks A+B for traktor, and C+D for your CDJ's... half the fun is working out what you want to do and how to do it!!

escapemcp

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