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Posted on: 08.12.2011 by Candy Vardy
Hey guys, well yes its true, I'm believeing about selling my Pioneer HDJ 2000's.

Crazy right?

Well here's why....

I've had them for almost a year, and I do love them, but over these months I've started to notice a few things which is really starting to bother me..

1. They get very heavy after playing a few hours.
2. They hurt my ears from the inside of the cup after playing a few hours.

So these are the 2 issues that bother me, especially when I've been using them for a long time. They get heavy around my neck, and they also bother me when I use them for basic everyday use. They also start to hurt my ears, and after a few hours I actually can't wear them anymore, and take them off.

Now this is turning into a deal breaker for me. So I've been looking into other options and the TMA's and HD 25's came up. Now I've tried the TMA's and found them a little loose for my head. They sounded great and very comfortable but I was worried about them moving on my head when I'm playing. Now the HD 25's I've heard fit tighter than the TMA's which is good news for me, and we've all read about their quality etc...

So now I'm considering selling my HDJ 2000's and getting a pair of the HD 25's. The only thing I'm concerned about is their comfort. Are they very comfortable especially for long gigs? I've never had the chance to try them so I'll be going by reviews and opinions. Have any of you owned both cans, can you give any feedback about it?

If they will be a more comfortable fit, then maybe this is what I'll be doing. Good bye Pioneer hello Sennheiser!

Thanks in advance guys. Cheers.
Candy Vardy
13.12.2011
Originally Posted by ToS
Is it true that TMA1 headband is made of rubber coated steel? If that is the case, you could shape the headband to better fit your skull.
For example: I've bent my AKG K518DJ so that it fits better on my bit pointy skull (not perfectly round at the top).
I wouldn't ever dream of bending or changing my headphones! :eek:

Well maybeeeeeeee I'd consider modding them, but only cosmetically, and only by these guys!

customcans.co.uk
Candy Vardy
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by Conall
Iv heard the solid rubber bit on the headband of the tma-1's can get quite uncomfortable
Yeah I've seen that there isn't any leather padding as such and I've wondered about that but nobody that i know has said anything about it. I could imagine that it might get a bit uncomfortable for some people.
Candy Vardy
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
Anything over 4 hours of constant wear and the senns hurt my ears.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by Dustin V
You have both the TMA's and the Senn's if I'm not mistaken hey Chris?

Which ones fit more comfortably or tightly on your head? Not to say your head is the same size as mine, but just to give some more insight into their fit.

Have you ever tried out the Pioneer's?

I have a hint that maybe on ear headphones like the Senns might feel a lot more comfortable after long hours of use compared to the Pioneer's plus they much lighter.

I wish I knew someone close by that had a pair for me to try, and compare...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Photojojo incased you missed this question.....
Inez Marcinik
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by Liambo
If you buy the Senns you will never look back. Trust me.
This

They are a bit tight sometimes like some people say but imo that just means they wont come off. I have a massive head (lol) and they arnt uncomfortable, unless iv been wearing them like 6-7h solid in which case i should be taking them off anyway. They are uber light weight and ridiculously robust. hd-25's ftw
Candy Vardy
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
I had the HD25's for a while man and they just were too tight. Clamping pressure was too much for me. But a lot of other ppl love the feel and so I believe it totally depends on your head and what you like.

Honestly dude if you found the Pioneer's which are circumaural to hurt your ears, I don't believe the Senn's will be any better and actually believe it might be worse! But that's just my two cents bro.

I'm personally about to buy the Sony v6's :-)
Well I'm hoping that being a different size ear cup, and being much lighter, they will feel more comfortable for me.

I'm still undecided about it though..

Originally Posted by Gapout
Headphones are something that is totally personal. Person A might LOVE a certian headphone yet person B cant stand them.
Headphones are no different than a pair of pants or a jacket. If i wear size 32 jeans that fit me perfectly and styled the way i like mean that the person who is 230lbs should wear the same jeans?

At the end of the day its all about you and what you like.
Yeah you right man, I believe I need to try and find someone that has a pair to compare them, but here where I am, its gonna be very difficult.

The only exception to the rule here is if you wear any Dr. Dre Beats while Djing...you will look like the douche bag wearing the Ed Hardy shirt 2 sizes to small for him.
LMAO! Agreed!
Leeanna Ayla
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by Dustin V
I've also heard that the Senn's are very comfortable after long term use.
Anything over 4 hours of constant wear and the senns hurt my ears.
Candy Vardy
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJQA
I use HD-25 Mk IIs, and while I haven't tried the Pioneers, I assume they're supraural like the Senns? If your earlobes are sensitive to long-term pressure and start to hurt because of that, the HD-25s will be no better for you.

You should look for closed back circumaural headphones, where the cans won't put any pressure on your earlobe. And of course, circumaural cans are even bigger and even more old school.. I quite liked the AKG K271 Mk II for studio work, but they might not be to every DJ's liking for tonal balance.
Well as far as I know the Pioneer's are over ear and that Senn's are on ear. I'm not familiar with the correct terms, but thats the main difference. My believeing is if after long term use, and gigs, from over ear headphones then maybe on ear ones would be more comfortable.

I've also heard that the Senn's are very comfortable after long term use.
Leeanna Ayla
09.12.2011		My 7506's are more comfortable on my ears than my HD25's. I still prefer the HD25's mostly because of weight I believe.

Originally Posted by DJQA
I use HD-25 Mk IIs, and while I haven't tried the Pioneers, I assume they're supraural like the Senns? If your earlobes are sensitive to long-term pressure and start to hurt because of that, the HD-25s will be no better for you.
HD2000's are circumaural.
Melinda Wubben
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by Dustin V
So now I'm considering selling my HDJ 2000's and getting a pair of the HD 25's. The only thing I'm concerned about is their comfort. Are they very comfortable especially for long gigs? I've never had the chance to try them so I'll be going by reviews and opinions. Have any of you owned both cans, can you give any feedback about it?
I use HD-25 Mk IIs, and while I haven't tried the Pioneers, I assume they're supraural like the Senns? If your earlobes are sensitive to long-term pressure and start to hurt because of that, the HD-25s will be no better for you.

You should look for closed back circumaural headphones, where the cans won't put any pressure on your earlobe. And of course, circumaural cans are even bigger and even more old school.. I quite liked the AKG K271 Mk II for studio work, but they might not be to every DJ's liking for tonal balance.
Dorie Scelzo
08.12.2011		Yeah
DJ MENSAH
16.12.2011		I gather replacement headbands fro HD25 are not a big seller for Sennheiser. :-D
Candy Vardy
15.12.2011		Yeah I remember that pic. I don't know how I got it confused with being TMA's.

Silly me.

Thanks Chris for posting.
Leeanna Ayla
15.12.2011		My Senns



Baslinebrine posted pretty much the same pic with TMA's and they both were unaffected.
Candy Vardy
15.12.2011		Bump.
Candy Vardy
13.12.2011
Originally Posted by ToS
Is it true that TMA1 headband is made of rubber coated steel? If that is the case, you could shape the headband to better fit your skull.
For example: I've bent my AKG K518DJ so that it fits better on my bit pointy skull (not perfectly round at the top).
I wouldn't ever dream of bending or changing my headphones! :eek:

Well maybeeeeeeee I'd consider modding them, but only cosmetically, and only by these guys!

customcans.co.uk
DJ MENSAH
13.12.2011		Is it true that TMA1 headband is made of rubber coated steel? If that is the case, you could shape the headband to better fit your skull.
For example: I've bent my AKG K518DJ so that it fits better on my bit pointy skull (not perfectly round at the top).
Candy Vardy
12.12.2011
Originally Posted by Conall
Iv heard the solid rubber bit on the headband of the tma-1's can get quite uncomfortable
Yeah I've seen that there isn't any leather padding as such and I've wondered about that but nobody that i know has said anything about it. I could imagine that it might get a bit uncomfortable for some people.
Inez Marcinik
11.12.2011		Iv heard the solid rubber bit on the headband of the tma-1's can get quite uncomfortable
Candy Vardy
11.12.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
Anything over 4 hours of constant wear and the senns hurt my ears.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by Dustin V
You have both the TMA's and the Senn's if I'm not mistaken hey Chris?

Which ones fit more comfortably or tightly on your head? Not to say your head is the same size as mine, but just to give some more insight into their fit.

Have you ever tried out the Pioneer's?

I have a hint that maybe on ear headphones like the Senns might feel a lot more comfortable after long hours of use compared to the Pioneer's plus they much lighter.

I wish I knew someone close by that had a pair for me to try, and compare...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Photojojo incased you missed this question.....
Inez Marcinik
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by Liambo
If you buy the Senns you will never look back. Trust me.
This

They are a bit tight sometimes like some people say but imo that just means they wont come off. I have a massive head (lol) and they arnt uncomfortable, unless iv been wearing them like 6-7h solid in which case i should be taking them off anyway. They are uber light weight and ridiculously robust. hd-25's ftw
Candy Vardy
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
I had the HD25's for a while man and they just were too tight. Clamping pressure was too much for me. But a lot of other ppl love the feel and so I believe it totally depends on your head and what you like.

Honestly dude if you found the Pioneer's which are circumaural to hurt your ears, I don't believe the Senn's will be any better and actually believe it might be worse! But that's just my two cents bro.

I'm personally about to buy the Sony v6's :-)
Well I'm hoping that being a different size ear cup, and being much lighter, they will feel more comfortable for me.

I'm still undecided about it though..

Originally Posted by Gapout
Headphones are something that is totally personal. Person A might LOVE a certian headphone yet person B cant stand them.
Headphones are no different than a pair of pants or a jacket. If i wear size 32 jeans that fit me perfectly and styled the way i like mean that the person who is 230lbs should wear the same jeans?

At the end of the day its all about you and what you like.
Yeah you right man, I believe I need to try and find someone that has a pair to compare them, but here where I am, its gonna be very difficult.

The only exception to the rule here is if you wear any Dr. Dre Beats while Djing...you will look like the douche bag wearing the Ed Hardy shirt 2 sizes to small for him.
LMAO! Agreed!
Sarai Suchman
09.12.2011		Headphones are something that is totally personal. Person A might LOVE a certian headphone yet person B cant stand them.
Headphones are no different than a pair of pants or a jacket. If i wear size 32 jeans that fit me perfectly and styled the way i like mean that the person who is 230lbs should wear the same jeans?

At the end of the day its all about you and what you like.

The only exception to the rule here is if you wear any Dr. Dre Beats while Djing...you will look like the douche bag wearing the Ed Hardy shirt 2 sizes to small for him.
Barton Rigazio
09.12.2011		I had the HD25's for a while man and they just were too tight. Clamping pressure was too much for me. But a lot of other ppl love the feel and so I believe it totally depends on your head and what you like.

Honestly dude if you found the Pioneer's which are circumaural to hurt your ears, I don't believe the Senn's will be any better and actually believe it might be worse! But that's just my two cents bro.

I'm personally about to buy the Sony v6's :-)
Candy Vardy
09.12.2011		You have both the TMA's and the Senn's if I'm not mistaken hey Chris?

Which ones fit more comfortably or tightly on your head? Not to say your head is the same size as mine, but just to give some more insight into their fit.

Have you ever tried out the Pioneer's?

I have a hint that maybe on ear headphones like the Senns might feel a lot more comfortable after long hours of use compared to the Pioneer's plus they much lighter.

I wish I knew someone close by that had a pair for me to try, and compare...
Leeanna Ayla
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by Dustin V
I've also heard that the Senn's are very comfortable after long term use.
Anything over 4 hours of constant wear and the senns hurt my ears.
Candy Vardy
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by DJQA
I use HD-25 Mk IIs, and while I haven't tried the Pioneers, I assume they're supraural like the Senns? If your earlobes are sensitive to long-term pressure and start to hurt because of that, the HD-25s will be no better for you.

You should look for closed back circumaural headphones, where the cans won't put any pressure on your earlobe. And of course, circumaural cans are even bigger and even more old school.. I quite liked the AKG K271 Mk II for studio work, but they might not be to every DJ's liking for tonal balance.
Well as far as I know the Pioneer's are over ear and that Senn's are on ear. I'm not familiar with the correct terms, but thats the main difference. My believeing is if after long term use, and gigs, from over ear headphones then maybe on ear ones would be more comfortable.

I've also heard that the Senn's are very comfortable after long term use.
Leeanna Ayla
09.12.2011		My 7506's are more comfortable on my ears than my HD25's. I still prefer the HD25's mostly because of weight I believe.

Originally Posted by DJQA
I use HD-25 Mk IIs, and while I haven't tried the Pioneers, I assume they're supraural like the Senns? If your earlobes are sensitive to long-term pressure and start to hurt because of that, the HD-25s will be no better for you.
HD2000's are circumaural.
Melinda Wubben
09.12.2011
Originally Posted by Dustin V
So now I'm considering selling my HDJ 2000's and getting a pair of the HD 25's. The only thing I'm concerned about is their comfort. Are they very comfortable especially for long gigs? I've never had the chance to try them so I'll be going by reviews and opinions. Have any of you owned both cans, can you give any feedback about it?
I use HD-25 Mk IIs, and while I haven't tried the Pioneers, I assume they're supraural like the Senns? If your earlobes are sensitive to long-term pressure and start to hurt because of that, the HD-25s will be no better for you.

You should look for closed back circumaural headphones, where the cans won't put any pressure on your earlobe. And of course, circumaural cans are even bigger and even more old school.. I quite liked the AKG K271 Mk II for studio work, but they might not be to every DJ's liking for tonal balance.
Dorie Scelzo
08.12.2011		Yeah
Preston Wootton
08.12.2011		Going to believe I am funny but the most comfortable headphones are still the trusty Sony MDR 7506's studio monitors. They are cheap, light, sound great and most of all they are comfortable. I have tried others but can't find any others that feel the same. Can be bought for under $100.00
Candy Vardy
08.12.2011
Originally Posted by ToS
Someone somewhere, not here, mentioned that HD25 has a bit too rigid cussions but something can be done to the to make them softer. (if anone knows, I too would like to hear)
Apart from that, they should be quite comfy, especially if you find TMA1 to be a bit loose (which means your head is not very large/wide).
Event if HD25 are too grippy, you can still stretch them by leaving them stretched overevening or something similar.
Never heard about that before....

Originally Posted by Liambo
If you buy the Senns you will never look back. Trust me.
Heard that before!

Originally Posted by photojojo
If you weren't in South Africa I would offer to trade deal on some HD25's.
Well I'm not in SA at the moment, actually in Brazil, but yeah I know what you mean. It would be a good deal. Too bad Chris.

Originally Posted by Patch
Is there a market for 2nd hand headphones?

I wouldn't want to wear 'phones that someone else had used, and I DEFINITELY wouldn't want someone to wear my sweaty ass 'phones after me!
Lulz..

Originally Posted by padi_04
Odd, I find them incredibly comfortable for extended periods. The senns my get tight, depending on your head.
Well they are comfortable, but only for short periods of time, like quick mix sessions at home etc, but for long gigs, and long periods of time, they get heavy, and bulky, and hurt my ears from the inside of the cup pressing on my ear.
Verlene Geevarghese
08.12.2011
Originally Posted by Dustin V
Yeah I've considered them. I actually saw Laidback Luke wearing IEM at Ultra this last weekend.

I'm not sure though it I want to take that route as I'm more of a traditional DJ, and like the idea of a DJ using DJ headphones. But it is something I'll believe about. Thanks.
No problem! I understand completely.
Nedra Fresneda
08.12.2011		Odd, I find them incredibly comfortable for extended periods. The senns my get tight, depending on your head.
Brunilda Kora
08.12.2011		Is there a market for 2nd hand headphones?

I wouldn't want to wear 'phones that someone else had used, and I DEFINITELY wouldn't want someone to wear my sweaty ass 'phones after me!
Leeanna Ayla
08.12.2011		If you weren't in South Africa I would offer to trade deal on some HD25's.
Palma Hanslip
08.12.2011		If you buy the Senns you will never look back. Trust me.
DJ MENSAH
08.12.2011		Someone somewhere, not here, mentioned that HD25 has a bit too rigid cussions but something can be done to the to make them softer. (if anone knows, I too would like to hear)
Apart from that, they should be quite comfy, especially if you find TMA1 to be a bit loose (which means your head is not very large/wide).
Event if HD25 are too grippy, you can still stretch them by leaving them stretched overevening or something similar.
Candy Vardy
08.12.2011		Yeah I've considered them. I actually saw Laidback Luke wearing IEM at Ultra this last weekend.

I'm not sure though it I want to take that route as I'm more of a traditional DJ, and like the idea of a DJ using DJ headphones. But it is something I'll believe about. Thanks.
Verlene Geevarghese
08.12.2011		Have you considered in ear monitors? More than a few users here do, or are considering them (me being one of them). They're obviously lighter, in most cases isolate better so that you don't have to crank the db's and save your ears. I know it doesn't look as snazzy as rippin a choon with your monster cans, but it seems as though it may be right up your alley.

Amazon has klipsch x10's for 120 bucks or so right now.

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