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Pioneer CDJ spinback sound on Kontrol s4 Posted on: 05.03.2013 by Tosha Silvestri Hey does anyone know how id be able to get a closer sound to the spinback of a cdj on my kontrol s4? the S4 is a very short quick spin and i want it to be longer like the CDJ
Edwardo Rothenberger 16.03.2013	Originally Posted by AIDZ browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about I love this vid. Great comedy DJ set. Absolutely brilliant when he starts to bring in 'Lack of Love' at 26.41. He is bopping like a mentalist then it goes haywire and he restarts the wrong track. Love it.
Ashanti Andreacchio 15.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket You guys are right. I was wrong. Spinbacks are nice in the right spots. > Thats ther secret with anything music related "at the right spot/time"
Augustine Mitzen 15.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket That might be the best Boiler Room set I've seen. Music is good and the crowd is having a blast. > DJ EZ's or any of Oneman sets easily tops this imo Originally Posted by sicnarf033 maybe spin the jogwheel? this is where the thread should have ended, but... i believe people are getting confused here. Are we talking spinbacks or rewinds? to me spinback is spinning back a tune that's being mixed out, while rewind is... well rewind/reload/pullup
Jerica Salava 15.03.2013	Originally Posted by AIDZ browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about That might be the best Boiler Room set I've seen. Music is good and the crowd is having a blast. >
Addie Engbrecht 14.03.2013	Originally Posted by AIDZ browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about
Tosha Silvestri 14.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket Don't do spin backs.. please. Thank you. The spin back was invented on the SL-1200 because there was no other effects possible. Today it is the cheesiest effect out there. Don't do it. If you have to be a cheeseball. Download a sample and trigger it when you want in the sample decks. They always sound the same anyway... woobbooubbuulllooobbouuhhhblblbloouoooo browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about
Annalisa Shogren 10.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket I bet there are some good pull ups in this 4 hour video. The one you recommended was pretty weak though. lol. > I was on about crowd reaction demanding the wheel up on that one. But now you know. But that video brings up an interesting topic, Funtcase uses a short loop on the CDJ 800, then uses the outer jog wheel to shorten it giving a different take on the reload method.
Edwardo Rothenberger 09.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket The dubstep reggae sound is good. I can feel it. Different strokes. You guys are right. I was wrong. Spinbacks are nice in the right spots. > Ahhh, ROTFL smilies are as old hat as spin backs
Edwardo Rothenberger 16.03.2013	Originally Posted by AIDZ browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about I love this vid. Great comedy DJ set. Absolutely brilliant when he starts to bring in 'Lack of Love' at 26.41. He is bopping like a mentalist then it goes haywire and he restarts the wrong track. Love it.
Tosha Silvestri 15.03.2013	agreed, i cant count how many times ive watched this just out of pure enjoyment, so entertaining
Doreen Schurle 15.03.2013	Backspinning works when you're dropping a heavy beat/well-known track, otherwise it sounds messy.
Ashanti Andreacchio 15.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket You guys are right. I was wrong. Spinbacks are nice in the right spots. > Thats ther secret with anything music related "at the right spot/time"
Kathe Stump 15.03.2013	Guys, Loverocket has apologized and admitted fault several times. Also, when trying to claim legitimacy as DJs, maybe terrible brostep examples aren't the best way to go..... TL;DR: I'm not with them....
Augustine Mitzen 15.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket That might be the best Boiler Room set I've seen. Music is good and the crowd is having a blast. > DJ EZ's or any of Oneman sets easily tops this imo Originally Posted by sicnarf033 maybe spin the jogwheel? this is where the thread should have ended, but... i believe people are getting confused here. Are we talking spinbacks or rewinds? to me spinback is spinning back a tune that's being mixed out, while rewind is... well rewind/reload/pullup
Alphonso Deitchman 15.03.2013	Ouch, Skream's 1st two transitions kinda flopped... At least the Disclosure guys know how to mix
Jerica Salava 15.03.2013	Originally Posted by AIDZ browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about That might be the best Boiler Room set I've seen. Music is good and the crowd is having a blast. >
Addie Engbrecht 14.03.2013	Originally Posted by AIDZ browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about
Tosha Silvestri 14.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket Don't do spin backs.. please. Thank you. The spin back was invented on the SL-1200 because there was no other effects possible. Today it is the cheesiest effect out there. Don't do it. If you have to be a cheeseball. Download a sample and trigger it when you want in the sample decks. They always sound the same anyway... woobbooubbuulllooobbouuhhhblblbloouoooo browse through this set and watch the use of a spin back, ill be honest its used alot throughout, but its perfection, often spun once the fader is even around 25% just making it a faint spin, also its been mixed proper before the spin, i garuntee ur believeing of the amateur route of a big ol spin and switching tracks, clearly not what any of us are talking about
Annalisa Shogren 10.03.2013	http://youtu.be/jR42ZAyrbWQ?t=1h41m31s Another.
Alphonso Deitchman 10.03.2013	I believe he's apologised two or three times now for that comment... Read the thread guys?
Annalisa Shogren 10.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket I bet there are some good pull ups in this 4 hour video. The one you recommended was pretty weak though. lol. > I was on about crowd reaction demanding the wheel up on that one. But now you know. But that video brings up an interesting topic, Funtcase uses a short loop on the CDJ 800, then uses the outer jog wheel to shorten it giving a different take on the reload method.
Edwardo Rothenberger 09.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket The dubstep reggae sound is good. I can feel it. Different strokes. You guys are right. I was wrong. Spinbacks are nice in the right spots. > Ahhh, ROTFL smilies are as old hat as spin backs
Jerica Salava 09.03.2013	The dubstep reggae sound is good. I can feel it. Different strokes. I like this video a lot. It's about the love of music. I bet there are some good pull ups in this 4 hour video. The one you recommended was pretty weak though. lol. here is the direct link: http://youtu.be/jR42ZAyrbWQ?t=2h9m3s @ 2:09:03 You guys are right. I was wrong. Spinbacks are nice in the right spots. >
Annalisa Shogren 09.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket I am a rookie because I don't do spinbacks. I got it MFV. Thanks. > People aren't saying that, your views just seem very particular to the type of music you like. Broaden your horizons. Originally Posted by loverocket Give me a time code to punch up because I can't sit through 4 hours of dubstep. > 2:09:06
Jerica Salava 09.03.2013	Originally Posted by OmniRoss For the S4 you just need to do it manually by spinning with your hand for the duration of the spin back. I used to when I had an S4 and it sounded alright?!?! And yeah, Loverocket... Attend some events outside your comfort zone. There's no better feeling than hearing a mix that demands a reload (rewind, wheel up, pull up). OBSERVE: http://youtu.be/jR42ZAyrbWQ?t=2h9m6s Give me a time code to punch up because I can't sit through 4 hours of dubstep. >
Jerica Salava 09.03.2013	I am a rookie because I don't do spinbacks. I got it MFV. Thanks. >
Annalisa Shogren 09.03.2013	For the S4 you just need to do it manually by spinning with your hand for the duration of the spin back. I used to when I had an S4 and it sounded alright?!?! And yeah, Loverocket... Attend some events outside your comfort zone. There's no better feeling than hearing a mix that demands a reload (rewind, wheel up, pull up). OBSERVE: http://youtu.be/jR42ZAyrbWQ?t=2h9m6s
Joesph Kasian 09.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket Don't do spin backs.. please. Thank you. The spin back was invented on the SL-1200 because there was no other effects possible. Today it is the cheesiest effect out there. Don't do it. If you have to be a cheeseball. Download a sample and trigger it when you want in the sample decks. They always sound the same anyway... woobbooubbuulllooobbouuhhhblblbloouoooo Spoken like a true rookie...just be quiet. 'download a sample and play it'....says it all really, just leave this place to never return!
Ok Moroski 09.03.2013	Regarding spinbacks... Like any other DJ technique/effect, they can be overdone. If you spinback for every transition, it's going to sound bad. If you spinback for low energy transitions... it's probably going to sound bad. Taste is the key though, not an absolute rule one way or another. As for Traktor - the turntable FX spinback can be okay... and barring using a midi controller I haven't used yet, it's probably your best option. That said, if you REALLY want to do decent spinbacks with Traktor, go the DVS route (which I'd recommend for reasons other than just spinbacks, but that's a story for another day).
Doreen Schurle 08.03.2013	I did a couple of backspins toevening , for RnB tracks; was using a pair of 2000s, and I didn't realise there was a knob to adjust the platter resistance, so it sounded shite haha.
Birgit Gondal 08.03.2013	I use spinbacks a lot in my mixing, but IMO if you're gonna spinback it has to be done on vinyl, if you do it on CDJ it sounds so digital and annoying, with vinyl you can manipulate it how you want. I'd say sample it, or just keep spinning and lower the fader at the same time? I also suggest doing a short spinback with a delay on it! If you come to a garage/DnB/Bashment (or even a lot of house music) party in the UK wheel-ups happen occasionally, I love a good rewind at the exact right time, can sound so sick.
Dirk Veasman 08.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket Don't do spin backs.. please. Thank you. The spin back was invented on the SL-1200 because there was no other effects possible. Today it is the cheesiest effect out there. Don't do it. If you have to be a cheeseball. Download a sample and trigger it when you want in the sample decks. They always sound the same anyway... woobbooubbuulllooobbouuhhhblblbloouoooo Whatever dude, it's fun. People say the same thing about the sync button, but it's something that people are just gonna do anyway.
Emelina Chillson 08.03.2013	Ive never had the deck dieing problem with traktor......
Rachael Tureson 08.03.2013	Originally Posted by kryptonitekillz There is nothing better than a good rewind at a drum and bass party. I have done many myself to great effect. have you done it in traktor annnnd do you get that thing where right after you do the deck totally dies?
Dick Korus 08.03.2013	Maybe map the tt effect as a jog effect, and mess around with the parameters and invert the control so when you back spin it modulates the effect forward? And maybe a slight high and mid increase, with a slight low decrease.
Ellyn Zbranek 08.03.2013	There is nothing better than a good rewind at a drum and bass party. I have done many myself to great effect.
Jerica Salava 07.03.2013	Originally Posted by octostout Everything you say on this community is so incredibly uninformed... Do you know ANYTHING about any of the genres besides what you play? Backspin is an effect that sounds great in a lot of contexts. Have you ever heard a good DnB DJ? Sorry man. I guess I admit I was wrong. Backspins are quite harsh to my ear drums. I never been to a DnB party. I don't believe it would interest me. I need to hit up a dancehall party soon. I hope I am not disappointed. The mixtapes I've heard are quite annoying. Maybe it's something you have to experience live .. after a few Red Stripes and some second hand smoke. >
Kathe Stump 07.03.2013	Originally Posted by loverocket Don't do spin backs.. please. Thank you. The spin back was invented on the SL-1200 because there was no other effects possible. Today it is the cheesiest effect out there. Don't do it. If you have to be a cheeseball. Download a sample and trigger it when you want in the sample decks. They always sound the same anyway... woobbooubbuulllooobbouuhhhblblbloouoooo Everything you say on this community is so incredibly uninformed... Do you know ANYTHING about any of the genres besides what you play? Backspin is an effect that sounds great in a lot of contexts. Have you ever heard a good DnB DJ?
Emelina Chillson 06.03.2013	The s4's jog wheels are plasticy at best. Do it by hand. or use the tt effect in traktor. If i had an s4 handy, i could be more helpful mate. Im sure this can be completed somehow with intelligent mapping.
Danae Dumler 06.03.2013	It's true, in dancehall and reggae shows the spin back (or pull up or whatever) is routine, and somehow people love it. Drove me crazy when I was in Kingston; loved the sound clash parties I went to but I came away from there believeing nobody knows how to DJ down there....

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