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Posted on: 15.05.2012 by Cathi Bannasch
Whats up guys,
Im kind of bored right now and was just researching some upcoming controllers. After doing that I can only believe of one thing to say. Its going to be an awesome next couple of months. I just sold my VCI-400 and it freed some capital, so I am interested in obtaining a new controller.

Anyways, enough about me. I wanted to know about the gear you guys are most excited about. Here is my list.

1. CDMP-7000. I feel like this has a lot of promise. I have always wanted to CDJ, but being a poor ass college kid can't exactly afford CDJ2ks. I know Gemini isn't regarded as having that awesome build but its a cool idea for $1000. Link here. http://www.geminidj.com/cdmp-7000

2. VCI-380. No need to explain. We all know it will be the next controller. Its only potential downfall is that its 2 channels. Which to me is awesome cause I bought a VCI 100 a couple weeks back just cause it was 2 channel. This controllers potential is going to be crazy.

Those are the only two I have been anticipating. What are you all looking forward to in the next couple months.

P.S. anyone want to guess the dates of release for the two products mentioned above?
Toni Beechner
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
@crowd3control

the djx700 is the worst mixer in the history or consumer dj gear . and the ndx400 is not really a substitute for pioneer and definately a worse choice compared to the gemini, and you are restricted to not being able to use midi.
I can confirm this. Behringer DJX700 has been the worst mixer I've ever had/used, it was total crap. It got broken after 5 *minutes* of use (channels started leaking to cue/headphones, noise/crackling from the channel faders, etc), and after getting a new one from warranty it lasted around one day before the same symptoms started again.. also the curves of the faders/knobs were really bad. I don't even have to mention the effects.. All in all it was a really crappy mixer. 7+ year old Gemini was much better than DJX700.
Leota Dolney
23.05.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
And you though the Gemini's looked like toys ?
Gemini's CD players have always had pretty decent transports even down to the CDJ500 clone years back...sure I wouldn't use them for a club installation, but for home use (their intended market TBH) - 100% yes.
I agree. I want to have something at home to use to work on sets without having to shell out the massive $$$ for a set of Pioneers. Maybe these wouldn't hold up to the abuse of a club environment...but I don't care as I wouldn't be using them in a club anyway. I believe the home market, or possibly a mobile setup is the appropriate market for these. Now, resale value may be crap compared to Pioneer and that is something to consider...
Cathi Bannasch
19.05.2012
Originally Posted by DJWORX
There you go - a review.
Haha. Priceless. Im believeing im going to go the route of 2 700s right now. Im believeing of using the VCi 380 as a mixer if not a DJM 700. I will have to cross that route when the vci comes out.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by WhatsADJ?
I looked into the S1 pretty extensively. Its like i mentioned in my last post. Virtual Djing is getting kind of boring to me. I feel like when working with an audience I spend a lot of time watching the screen just to stay busy. I feel like with the CDj route I would occupy some time and really get a feel for the music.
it seems that you are looking for a scapegoat as to why you are getting bored, no one says you cant use your ears when mixing with a laptop, and no one says you have to use effects on every mix just because they are there. they are "tools" not "rules"... write that down lmao
Tonisha Rayman
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by WhatsADJ?
Like you said though man. Its all personal preference. I was just looking for a little feedback on the CDJ 700 I guess.
Personally I don't believe I'd ever buy a Gemini product hardly see them around when it comes to DJing. The CDJ 700 looks really toy like in my opinion. If you really wanna transition into cdjs & mixer. I'd say pick up some NDX400s and a second hand Behringer DJX700 from like ebay. It would be an affordable setup and you can test it out and see how you enjoy it. If you feel like that's a better setup then you know you would wanna spring for something better.
Toni Beechner
30.06.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
@crowd3control

the djx700 is the worst mixer in the history or consumer dj gear . and the ndx400 is not really a substitute for pioneer and definately a worse choice compared to the gemini, and you are restricted to not being able to use midi.
I can confirm this. Behringer DJX700 has been the worst mixer I've ever had/used, it was total crap. It got broken after 5 *minutes* of use (channels started leaking to cue/headphones, noise/crackling from the channel faders, etc), and after getting a new one from warranty it lasted around one day before the same symptoms started again.. also the curves of the faders/knobs were really bad. I don't even have to mention the effects.. All in all it was a really crappy mixer. 7+ year old Gemini was much better than DJX700.
Leota Dolney
23.05.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
And you though the Gemini's looked like toys ?
Gemini's CD players have always had pretty decent transports even down to the CDJ500 clone years back...sure I wouldn't use them for a club installation, but for home use (their intended market TBH) - 100% yes.
I agree. I want to have something at home to use to work on sets without having to shell out the massive $$$ for a set of Pioneers. Maybe these wouldn't hold up to the abuse of a club environment...but I don't care as I wouldn't be using them in a club anyway. I believe the home market, or possibly a mobile setup is the appropriate market for these. Now, resale value may be crap compared to Pioneer and that is something to consider...
Cathi Bannasch
19.05.2012
Originally Posted by DJWORX
There you go - a review.
Haha. Priceless. Im believeing im going to go the route of 2 700s right now. Im believeing of using the VCi 380 as a mixer if not a DJM 700. I will have to cross that route when the vci comes out.
Renaldo Chansky
17.05.2012		http://djworx.com/review-gemini-cdj-700-media-player/

There you go - a review.
Erich Vallabhaneni
17.05.2012		I believe the gemini 700 looks like a CDJ 2000 copy cat for a fraction of the price. Can't beat that, id wait and check reviews and stuff though when they have been out for a bit.
Rolanda Clodfelder
17.05.2012
I'd say pick up some NDX400s and a second hand Behringer DJX700 from like ebay.
And you though the Gemini's looked like toys ?

IMHO Honetly I can't say the 700 looks like a toy, in essence its got most of the good bits (apart from reckordbox/bigger screen) + few more toys added in from a CDJ900

Lets see its got:

Midi.
decent jog wheel
touchscreen FX/Waveforms/track selection.
slip mode
Quantized looping

Thats far cry from a NDX400 the 850's will be around $500 per pair more expensive and you'll lose features like quantize, and slip mode. The 900's closer to $1000 extra for the pair - thats quite a bit of cash.

Gemini's CD players have always had pretty decent transports even down to the CDJ500 clone years back...sure I wouldn't use them for a club installation, but for home use (their intended market TBH) - 100% yes.
Lang Abriel
16.05.2012		the vci 380 is making me believe about changing to serato. I'm believeing that with 2 TT's and a serato box may be my ideal setup. I mean you have an amazing analog mixer and known crossfader for scratching and it saves on space. Then i have a mobile setup for smaller gigs/parties and still get to use TT's.

But getting all that track information from traktor to serato could be a pain. Basically if I make the change I am going to be on serato for a long time.

I just don't see anyone making a mapping to compare to the vci-380...especially one that will work flawlessly out of the box like the itch mappings do.

I honestly believe the vci-380 out does 2 cdj 2000's for half the price and a mixer.
Nancey Inderlied
16.05.2012		If you save up a few quid, refurb CDJ-900s are ~$900, and 850s are around $750. It depends on how much you want to save, but they'll definitely provide a much tighter feeling all around.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
16.05.2012		@crowd3control

the djx700 is the worst mixer in the history or consumer dj gear . and the ndx400 is not really a substitute for pioneer and definately a worse choice compared to the gemini, and you are restricted to not being able to use midi.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by WhatsADJ?
I looked into the S1 pretty extensively. Its like i mentioned in my last post. Virtual Djing is getting kind of boring to me. I feel like when working with an audience I spend a lot of time watching the screen just to stay busy. I feel like with the CDj route I would occupy some time and really get a feel for the music.
it seems that you are looking for a scapegoat as to why you are getting bored, no one says you cant use your ears when mixing with a laptop, and no one says you have to use effects on every mix just because they are there. they are "tools" not "rules"... write that down lmao
Tonisha Rayman
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by WhatsADJ?
Like you said though man. Its all personal preference. I was just looking for a little feedback on the CDJ 700 I guess.
Personally I don't believe I'd ever buy a Gemini product hardly see them around when it comes to DJing. The CDJ 700 looks really toy like in my opinion. If you really wanna transition into cdjs & mixer. I'd say pick up some NDX400s and a second hand Behringer DJX700 from like ebay. It would be an affordable setup and you can test it out and see how you enjoy it. If you feel like that's a better setup then you know you would wanna spring for something better.
Cathi Bannasch
16.05.2012		Like you said though man. Its all personal preference. I was just looking for a little feedback on the CDJ 700 I guess.
Cathi Bannasch
16.05.2012		I looked into the S1 pretty extensively. Its like i mentioned in my last post. Virtual Djing is getting kind of boring to me. I feel like when working with an audience I spend a lot of time watching the screen just to stay busy. I feel like with the CDj route I would occupy some time and really get a feel for the music.
Tonisha Rayman
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by WhatsADJ?
Right. Ok so the past 3 hours or so I have been researching the stuff you guys have thrown down. Honestly I feel like the CDJ700 with a DJM-700(Second Hand most likely). Would be an intense set-up. It rivals club setups so I would get great practice. The effects panel is intense and the DJM could be mapped to traktor worst case scenario. I was also looking at a DJM-950, but its two deck, and I would like to be able to plug an ipod into the mixer just in case. However, what I am getting at is that for about $1800 I can get two CDjs and a solid mixer. One thing is keeping me worried though. The durability of the Gemini CDJ 700. I have never owned Gemini, but its rep is ehh... we all know. I really want to learn how to CDJ though. I am sick of these Kontrol S4, VCI, yadda yadda controllers. They are great dont get me wrong, but digital DJing is starting to bore me.

What would yall do. I believe the things you guys are mentioning are great. I am really taking each into consideration. Thanks

Have you looked into the pionner ddj-t1? It's a controller but it has most the same features as you would with two cdjs and a mixer.
Cathi Bannasch
16.05.2012		Right. Ok so the past 3 hours or so I have been researching the stuff you guys have thrown down. Honestly I feel like the CDJ700 with a DJM-700(Second Hand most likely). Would be an intense set-up. It rivals club setups so I would get great practice. The effects panel is intense and the DJM could be mapped to traktor worst case scenario. I was also looking at a DJM-950, but its two deck, and I would like to be able to plug an ipod into the mixer just in case. However, what I am getting at is that for about $1800 I can get two CDjs and a solid mixer. One thing is keeping me worried though. The durability of the Gemini CDJ 700. I have never owned Gemini, but its rep is ehh... we all know. I really want to learn how to CDJ though. I am sick of these Kontrol S4, VCI, yadda yadda controllers. They are great dont get me wrong, but digital DJing is starting to bore me.

What would yall do. I believe the things you guys are mentioning are great. I am really taking each into consideration. Thanks
Tonisha Rayman
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by WhatsADJ?
I really want to get away from huge controllers. I want to get serious in DJing and I do not feel like you can be seriously considered if you bring a VCI to a gig. Right now im considering a 900-Nexus mixer and 2 technics. I am stuck and dont know if I want TTs or CDJs.
It's not about being taken seriously it's about personal preference. If you notice a lot of the big time producers in the edm scence right now hardly actually spin on cdjs. Datsik has a launchpad and some other small controller. I mean it would be nice to have those to practice and see what you enjoy playing on more but really you will rarely have to take you stuff to a gig.
Cathi Bannasch
16.05.2012		I really want to get away from huge controllers. I want to get serious in DJing and I do not feel like you can be seriously considered if you bring a VCI to a gig. Right now im considering a 900-Nexus mixer and 2 technics. I am stuck and dont know if I want TTs or CDJs.
Leota Dolney
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
I would consider the Gemini CDJ700's separate versions over the CDMP all-in-one ..

At least you can use any mixer you want + if one breaks you aren't completely fucked or you could upgrade to one Pio at a time in the future.
I am considering acquiring a pair of these for home. A great alternative to the Pioneers as I don't need Pioneers at home...plus they have nice benefit of being a controller too!
Rolanda Clodfelder
16.05.2012		I would consider the Gemini CDJ700's separate versions over the CDMP all-in-one ..

At least you can use any mixer you want + if one breaks you aren't completely fucked or you could upgrade to one Pio at a time in the future.
Leota Dolney
17.05.2012		My list is simple:

1. Native Instruments Kontrol F1: I know some people have issues with the remix functionality being tied to the controller, but the remix decks should work well with my workflow

2. Behringer MM-1: I have a Xone:K2...but it just doesn't quite cut it for me as a stand-alone MIDI mixer...so I will likely use it for other stuff (e.g., control of 4 FX units + instant gratification mapping on the 4x4 button matrix). The MM-1 will be just that...just a MIDI mixer...nothing more and nothing less. I like that. I embrace the modular controller mindset because I want controllers that do One thing, but do it well. That way I can pick and choose which controllers work for my setup/workflow...and on that note...

3. Behringer PL-1: I don't really use jog-wheels for much, but I like the thought of an inexpensive controller that gives me that functionality. Will I use it all the time...NO. But I like the flexibility of having the option to use it when I want.
Ara Tima
15.05.2012		I read in at interview that James Holden was designing a controller. Haven't been able to find much/any information online about it so I'm guessing it won't be commercially available, but still I'm looking forward to seeing that.

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