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Midi FX Guitar
Posted on: 17.07.2012 by Kindra Brawand
This is still a work in progress, so no finished pictures yet, but I thought y'all might be interested in the working drawings anyway.

Basically we've taken an old electric guitar body, used a router to cut an MF Pro sized hole in the middle and a small sheet of acrylic to the back to run the wires too. At the edge of the guitar there is 2 female/female USB adaptors so the wires remain internal, but the MF itself can be removed from the front.

Currently in the process of reattaching the neck to the back of the body to allow space to attach a small Akai keyboard to it and then run the wires back to the other female/female USB.

The idea is to be more mobile and have a larger performance aspect to a set. A lot of the places I play I am on a stage and it has always been a bit awkward just standing still.

I'll post more pictures as we go, but let me know what you all believe!
FXGuitar.jpg
Tobi Rabuse
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Which is why you make sure you do it right and don't fiddle with things you don't understand. Exactly the same goes for mapping in Traktor.
Not true. Mapping in Traktor does not allow you to change elements of the scripting. It only allows you to specify what Controls on your Controller are mapped to in Traktor.
Kiyoko Wellisch
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Also customisation of a program only allows for it be messed with and therefore become possibly unstable.
Which is why you make sure you do it right and don't fiddle with things you don't understand. Exactly the same goes for mapping in Traktor.
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Visually customisable, but nowhere near as intuitive and thought-out.
Not just visually, you can do a hell of a lot of cool stuff under the bonnet and their mapping scripting thingy is sweet too.
Chasidy Heckenbach
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Did you seriously just say that... o.O
mapping in vdj7 already blows the pants off traktor - i'm sure that vdj8 with all it's new bells and whistles will be a lot more usable than traktor. so yep - i guess he did say that
Tobi Rabuse
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Traktor's pretty limited in comparison to VDJ. VDJ is really nicely customisable and will be even more so with the next major release.
Visually customisable, but nowhere near as intuitive and thought-out.
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Did you seriously just say that... o.O
Traktor's pretty limited in comparison to VDJ. VDJ is really nicely customisable and will be even more so with the next major release.
Kiyoko Wellisch
24.07.2012		Just like in VDJ. If you mess it up your controller isn't going to behave the way you want it to.

You can't alter the VDJ source code, you're not going to break the program itself. You can only change how it reacts to midi messages.
Tobi Rabuse
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Which is why you make sure you do it right and don't fiddle with things you don't understand. Exactly the same goes for mapping in Traktor.
Not true. Mapping in Traktor does not allow you to change elements of the scripting. It only allows you to specify what Controls on your Controller are mapped to in Traktor.
Kiyoko Wellisch
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Also customisation of a program only allows for it be messed with and therefore become possibly unstable.
Which is why you make sure you do it right and don't fiddle with things you don't understand. Exactly the same goes for mapping in Traktor.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
22.07.2012		I don't believe it's an even comparison either... neither of those two are capable of doing what VDJ can do The problem is the potential hasn't been unleashed yet... If you want to debate VDJ start another & thread I'll gladly take part but this one is about the op's midi fx guitar.

Also you are dealing with three of the most biased djtt members, Popinjay is the advocate for xwax, zestoi is a mixxx developer and you can guess my favorite LOL...

//offtopic

Here you go I started a thread for you.
Tobi Rabuse
22.07.2012		Also customisation of a program only allows for it be messed with and therefore become possibly unstable.
Tobi Rabuse
22.07.2012		Virtual DJ was the first thing I started out on using just a Computer Keyboard... When I started using Traktor, I realised how much better it was and started using it. At that point I had never even looked up what popular DJ's and Producers use to DJ, otherwise I would probably be DJing using Ableton or Serato.

EDIT: Therefore, IMHO, VDJ cannot be compared to Serato or Traktor and majority of people on this community and majority of the worlds best Digital DJ's will agree.
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.07.2012		I don't even slightly believe that. I believe people pick things because they are shiny and popular and someone they respect told them to.

Only geeks go for customisability.

edit: I love how you rate the software by the artists using it. I personally rate gear based upon features, not celebrity enforcement.
Tobi Rabuse
22.07.2012		I'm sorry but, you just cannot compare VDJ to Traktor or Serato. Especially with the names that they have using their software compared to VDJ's DJ List. Seriously, if it was better, you'd believe more people would use it no matter what it looked like or if it had a shitty name.
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.07.2012		I've always thought that if the VDJ guys sorted out the settings menus and shipped with a really slick default skin they would be taken a lot more seriously.
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
22.07.2012		Hells yeah! I said the shit out of it! I meant it too... when I was drawing them I was believeing of the mapping for it and traktor couldn't come close without midimasher or another middleware program Traktor is better presented yes, but the dev team at atomix have created something that the user base can modify to suit their needs, with almost no limitations.

It's really strange that no one ever really understood the potential it has all because of a toy like skin and a crap name, but VDJ8 should be exciting, although I'm pretty sure the two things everyone hates "skin & name" are staying. But that's cool the name doesn't bother me and I can make skins, so can anyone else!

/offtopic
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Visually customisable, but nowhere near as intuitive and thought-out.
Not just visually, you can do a hell of a lot of cool stuff under the bonnet and their mapping scripting thingy is sweet too.
Chasidy Heckenbach
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Did you seriously just say that... o.O
mapping in vdj7 already blows the pants off traktor - i'm sure that vdj8 with all it's new bells and whistles will be a lot more usable than traktor. so yep - i guess he did say that
Tobi Rabuse
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
Traktor's pretty limited in comparison to VDJ. VDJ is really nicely customisable and will be even more so with the next major release.
Visually customisable, but nowhere near as intuitive and thought-out.
Kiyoko Wellisch
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by FILTHZ
Did you seriously just say that... o.O
Traktor's pretty limited in comparison to VDJ. VDJ is really nicely customisable and will be even more so with the next major release.
Tobi Rabuse
22.07.2012
Originally Posted by synthet1c
Then use VDJ8 to run it cause traktor is too limited!
Did you seriously just say that... o.O
Chasidy Heckenbach
21.07.2012		awesome images! love the 80's one
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
20.07.2012		Cheers Bro!
Kiyoko Wellisch
20.07.2012		Nice mockups dude
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
18.07.2012		last one... this is actually pretty cool, the guitar ones are a bit too wanky, this is just wanky enough... I would never use any of 'em but there fun to draw


midislasher 80's edition - pin light - synthet1c.jpgmidislasher 80's edition new - synthet1c.jpg
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
18.07.2012		here's another version lol


midi slasher JOG copy.jpg
Jonathan Chiuchiolo
17.07.2012		If your going to ruin music with effects you may as well do it in style I guess! here is a photoshop mockup...

It would all be mapped to effects, the 3 sliders would ideally be spring loaded toward the center and on a slight angle so you get the action of strumming strings. Matt Bellamy style kaoss pad, midifighter 3d, led pots from the novation nocturn for eq volume and loop size. On the neck you would cannibalize the midifighters shift buttons and use 3 6 inch touch strips so you can use both hands. You could probably make a shift to activate the 3d's accelerometers but I wouldn't suggest they stay on. Then use VDJ8 to run it cause traktor is too limited!

Eloy Kiepke
17.07.2012		I can't decide if this is really awesome, or really really lame... but I'm leaning in your favor.

It would be perfect for that "plooping" effect that nobody should ever do ever.
robin loo
17.07.2012		cool idea.. keep us updated!

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