Traktor Kontrol S2 ghghg.jpg sss.jpg
Hey guys, my last thread I said i was switching my controllers. I've found one on from traktor called Kontrol S2 and i believe its really good. But, i want your opinions on if i should get it. It also comes with Traktor pro 2 which also would be really good for me.
Thanks again(: |
Selena Bacon
24.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
What is your latency at right now?
First off, customization. Just non-traditional ways of doing things, jog effects and such.
Then more importantly, mapping tricks that let you do things impossible otherwise... relooping/beatrepeat/slipmode-esque tricks, instant touch effects, effects combinations, expanded effects controls and presets, tools for visual feedback, control layers... I could go on...
So you don't like the s2 b/c they can't do all that. What midi controllers would you recommend? |
Natalia Bucko
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
i.e Stuff that 98% of DJs using a controller either in the bedroom or regularly at a club evening
or show will never really explore. The stuff that technerds get hard over, not the stuff that guys who want to creatively play records care about. I'm willing to bet that the majority of S2 buyers may never deviate from the default mapping.
At the end of the day, the S2 is a quality, decently built, portable alternative to a turntable/cdj/mixer setup and that is exactly what it is designed for.
I'll get back to you about my latency.
lol yeah those of us that do that stuff are total nerds. k.
Some day I hope to able to "creatively play records" like you lol. |
Johnetta Olewine
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
What is your latency at right now?
First off, customization. Just non-traditional ways of doing things, jog effects and such.
Then more importantly, mapping tricks that let you do things impossible otherwise... relooping/beatrepeat/slipmode-esque tricks, instant touch effects, effects combinations, expanded effects controls and presets, tools for visual feedback, control layers... I could go on...
i.e Stuff that 98% of DJs using a controller either in the bedroom or regularly at a club evening
or show will never really explore. The stuff that technerds get hard over, not the stuff that guys who want to creatively play records care about. I'm willing to bet that the majority of S2 buyers may never deviate from the default mapping.
At the end of the day, the S2 is a quality, decently built, portable alternative to a turntable/cdj/mixer setup and that is exactly what it is designed for.
I'll get back to you about my latency. |
Ricki Markman
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
Skrillex uses a M-audio triggerfinger and his laptop's internal soundcard.
First of all Skrillex has been using cdjs for like the last year, and secondly that's irrelevant because that picture's not even of him. It's clearly labeled Porter Robinson, and he clearly has an S4 in front of him. |
Natalia Bucko
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by slainbybeats
faderswagger: Don't know what you are talking about. I got one right next to me and the build quality is anything else but crap. You are also the first to mention a bad thing about the soundcard... And if you are too lazy to get a mapping running on it instead of the HD protocol...
I believe the S2 is a great thing if you dont need the 4 Trackchannel control the S4 gives you.
I've got an S4 right here. It's felt like cheap plastic crap since I got it. Got two broken faders, have to chase down the caps all the time at gigs when they fall off, have to recalibrate the faders and jogwheels all the damn time. And the soundcard? NI made the damn thing, you'd believe they'd have better latency than this shit.
Maybe if you don't pay close attention to this stuff, it's great...
Also I have an S4, and I'm anything but lazy, I've spend MANY hours making contradictory mappings to work around NI's horribly-made HD protocol, so that I'm not stuck with 7 bit midi messages in midi mode...
Originally Posted by attila
Which is why a large number of producers are using NI as their gear
of choice right?
Apparently that soundcard wasn't bad enough to power the main stage at EDC
porter-robinson-EDC.jpg
Skrillex uses a M-audio triggerfinger and his laptop's internal soundcard.
Originally Posted by oliosky
what utter horse shit. Its a well built controller with a quality soundcard and very good Traktor pro integration. As far as 2 channel all in 1 controllers, you can't get much better.
It is essentially an S4 with 2 less channels. And the product line seems to be good enough for techno guys like kaiserdsic
and acid stalwart A Guy Called Gerald
I told you dude, it's fine for traditional DJs who just need standard controls... Until it breaks... Or you want low-latency. |
Johnetta Olewine
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
so many of these posts.
The s2 is okay if you are a beginner, and are going to upgrade out of it quickly, or if you're a traditional cdj/vinyl guy, who wants something cheap with a sound card and you don't need to custom map anything.
This is because:
-the build quality is crap and the sound card is worse.
-the native instruments hd protocol is a bad joke and prevents you from remapping it without using midi mode, except for a couple of hacks, most of which end up with badly delayed controls.
what utter horse shit. Its a well built controller with a quality soundcard and very good Traktor pro integration. As far as 2 channel all in 1 controllers, you can't get much better.
It is essentially an S4 with 2 less channels. And the product line seems to be good enough for techno guys like kaiserdsico
and acid stalwart A Guy Called Gerald
|
Ricki Markman
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
So many of these posts.
-The build quality is crap and the sound card is worse.
Which is why a large number of producers are using NI as their gear
of choice right?
Apparently that soundcard wasn't bad enough to power the main stage at EDC
porter-robinson-EDC.jpg |
Maurita Jakaitis
18.06.2012 | ghghg.jpg sss.jpg
Hey guys, my last thread I said i was switching my controllers. I've found one on from traktor called Kontrol S2 and i believe its really good. But, i want your opinions on if i should get it. It also comes with Traktor pro 2 which also would be really good for me.
Thanks again(: |
Verdell Garic
25.08.2012 | Stanton DJC4. Get is, It's cheaper with more controls than the S2 |
Yong Aptekar
25.08.2012 | ^ dr meatpatty has it right, what controller do you suggest? The S2 feels great to me. Especially if you have a budget that's not allowing for a $1000+ controller. |
Selena Bacon
24.08.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
What is your latency at right now?
First off, customization. Just non-traditional ways of doing things, jog effects and such.
Then more importantly, mapping tricks that let you do things impossible otherwise... relooping/beatrepeat/slipmode-esque tricks, instant touch effects, effects combinations, expanded effects controls and presets, tools for visual feedback, control layers... I could go on...
So you don't like the s2 b/c they can't do all that. What midi controllers would you recommend? |
Johnetta Olewine
20.06.2012 | Oh I see, some mad passive aggressive inverted commas shit. Nice one bro.
To the op, the beaubryte s2 mapping is very good if you are into that stuff. |
Natalia Bucko
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
i.e Stuff that 98% of DJs using a controller either in the bedroom or regularly at a club evening
or show will never really explore. The stuff that technerds get hard over, not the stuff that guys who want to creatively play records care about. I'm willing to bet that the majority of S2 buyers may never deviate from the default mapping.
At the end of the day, the S2 is a quality, decently built, portable alternative to a turntable/cdj/mixer setup and that is exactly what it is designed for.
I'll get back to you about my latency.
lol yeah those of us that do that stuff are total nerds. k.
Some day I hope to able to "creatively play records" like you lol. |
Johnetta Olewine
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
What is your latency at right now?
First off, customization. Just non-traditional ways of doing things, jog effects and such.
Then more importantly, mapping tricks that let you do things impossible otherwise... relooping/beatrepeat/slipmode-esque tricks, instant touch effects, effects combinations, expanded effects controls and presets, tools for visual feedback, control layers... I could go on...
i.e Stuff that 98% of DJs using a controller either in the bedroom or regularly at a club evening
or show will never really explore. The stuff that technerds get hard over, not the stuff that guys who want to creatively play records care about. I'm willing to bet that the majority of S2 buyers may never deviate from the default mapping.
At the end of the day, the S2 is a quality, decently built, portable alternative to a turntable/cdj/mixer setup and that is exactly what it is designed for.
I'll get back to you about my latency. |
Ricki Markman
20.06.2012 | No, I'm saying you arguing that the sound card sucks is laughable. |
Natalia Bucko
20.06.2012 | I know it's porter robinson, I'm just pointing out how insanely irrelevant it is that it's used by some producer who got famous. What? when you get famous, all your gear becomes great? |
Ricki Markman
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
Skrillex uses a M-audio triggerfinger and his laptop's internal soundcard.
First of all Skrillex has been using cdjs for like the last year, and secondly that's irrelevant because that picture's not even of him. It's clearly labeled Porter Robinson, and he clearly has an S4 in front of him. |
Natalia Bucko
20.06.2012 | What is your latency at right now?
First off, customization. Just non-traditional ways of doing things, jog effects and such.
Then more importantly, mapping tricks that let you do things impossible otherwise... relooping/beatrepeat/slipmode-esque tricks, instant touch effects, effects combinations, expanded effects controls and presets, tools for visual feedback, control layers... I could go on... |
Johnetta Olewine
20.06.2012 | I have no latency issues at all. Both on my macbook and my ancient c2d 1.6 dell vostro. What exactly are the non-standard controls then? |
Natalia Bucko
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by slainbybeats
faderswagger: Don't know what you are talking about. I got one right next to me and the build quality is anything else but crap. You are also the first to mention a bad thing about the soundcard... And if you are too lazy to get a mapping running on it instead of the HD protocol...
I believe the S2 is a great thing if you dont need the 4 Trackchannel control the S4 gives you.
I've got an S4 right here. It's felt like cheap plastic crap since I got it. Got two broken faders, have to chase down the caps all the time at gigs when they fall off, have to recalibrate the faders and jogwheels all the damn time. And the soundcard? NI made the damn thing, you'd believe they'd have better latency than this shit.
Maybe if you don't pay close attention to this stuff, it's great...
Also I have an S4, and I'm anything but lazy, I've spend MANY hours making contradictory mappings to work around NI's horribly-made HD protocol, so that I'm not stuck with 7 bit midi messages in midi mode...
Originally Posted by attila
Which is why a large number of producers are using NI as their gear
of choice right?
Apparently that soundcard wasn't bad enough to power the main stage at EDC
porter-robinson-EDC.jpg
Skrillex uses a M-audio triggerfinger and his laptop's internal soundcard.
Originally Posted by oliosky
what utter horse shit. Its a well built controller with a quality soundcard and very good Traktor pro integration. As far as 2 channel all in 1 controllers, you can't get much better.
It is essentially an S4 with 2 less channels. And the product line seems to be good enough for techno guys like kaiserdsic
and acid stalwart A Guy Called Gerald
I told you dude, it's fine for traditional DJs who just need standard controls... Until it breaks... Or you want low-latency. |
Johnetta Olewine
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
so many of these posts.
The s2 is okay if you are a beginner, and are going to upgrade out of it quickly, or if you're a traditional cdj/vinyl guy, who wants something cheap with a sound card and you don't need to custom map anything.
This is because:
-the build quality is crap and the sound card is worse.
-the native instruments hd protocol is a bad joke and prevents you from remapping it without using midi mode, except for a couple of hacks, most of which end up with badly delayed controls.
what utter horse shit. Its a well built controller with a quality soundcard and very good Traktor pro integration. As far as 2 channel all in 1 controllers, you can't get much better.
It is essentially an S4 with 2 less channels. And the product line seems to be good enough for techno guys like kaiserdsico
and acid stalwart A Guy Called Gerald
|
Ricki Markman
20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
So many of these posts.
-The build quality is crap and the sound card is worse.
Which is why a large number of producers are using NI as their gear
of choice right?
Apparently that soundcard wasn't bad enough to power the main stage at EDC
porter-robinson-EDC.jpg |
Mariano Weigold
20.06.2012 | faderswagger: Don't know what you are talking about. I got one right next to me and the build quality is anything else but crap. You are also the first to mention a bad thing about the soundcard... And if you are too lazy to get a mapping running on it instead of the HD protocol...
I believe the S2 is a great thing if you dont need the 4 Trackchannel control the S4 gives you. |
Natalia Bucko
20.06.2012 | So many of these posts.
The S2 is okay if you are a beginner, and are going to upgrade out of it quickly, or if you're a traditional CDJ/vinyl guy, who wants something cheap with a sound card and you don't need to custom map anything.
This is because:
-The build quality is crap and the sound card is worse.
-The native instruments HD protocol is a bad joke and prevents you from remapping it without using midi mode, except for a couple of hacks, most of which end up with badly delayed controls. |
Genoveva Souvannasane
20.06.2012 | Get it. I've gotten the S2 and I have a ton of fun with it. Quality, well built gear and it's mapped perfectly to traktor so that's another winning point! |
