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Quneo - open source
Posted on: 19.11.2011 by Cliff Lohman
Since I missed the other thread on queneo.. figured id change the topic - anybody ever done something on kickstarter? Quneo seems successful based on kickstarter funding of $25k in a couple of days.

Good motivation if somebodys got a good idea that they want to try to bring to market..

Im very interested to see how this works out for Quneo.

Are there any past kickstarter funded dj projects that anybody is aware of?



http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nd-usb-pad-con

Thought u guys would be interested in this new controller.. Saw it on skratchworx
Chasidy Heckenbach
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by franekk
also all software and probably firmware will be open source so i believe it would be easy to implement different midi modes - absolute or relative
this is true - tho an odd omission given all the cool stuff they've already put into the firmware. there again... what u don't want is a midi controller constantly streaming out data that isn't any use to most people maybe.

the open firmware is very interesting - and for me may push that up my "maybe buy" list must admit i had forgotten it would be open source...
Chasidy Heckenbach
21.11.2011
Originally Posted by carson@kmi
Way to copy me, Matt.
the posts were only 2 mins apart to be fair so probably one posted while the other was being written.

edit: and very cool being fixed at 200$, i believe that's a pretty good price point. low enough to be cheaper than *most* tablets anyway and i appreciate there's a lot of stuff in there with all the led feedback and 16 xy drum pads.

i'd be very interested to hear what kind of midi they'll be sending out - tho i presume the firmware could be modded anyway being open source?
Rosita Bourdeaux
02.10.2012
So i'd like to bump this to see how everyone's been feeling about their quneo. I may just buy one next weekend to see if it can replace my launchpad. seems to have every feature the LP has plus velocity sensitivity, touch faders and those touch pot things (are they x/y pads or what?). Other than the fugly color scheme it looks solid.

BTW anyone else interested in what novation's response to this controller will be?
Rolanda Clodfelder
26.08.2012
I can see it being really useful for controlling Effects Parameters e.g.
Pressure amount = Beat Repeat amount
Using various corners of the pads for Sample Deck control e.g. Right = Record / Left = Stop

Technically its a 64 button grid - lotta controls to play with.

Where it really looks like it will shine though IMHO is for anything needing drum programming the likes of Ableton or similar, I'd love one to go with my APC
Cliff Lohman
26.08.2012
Its not the most useful traktor controller in the world tbh.. Wouldnt be my main choice for traktor unless there was something very specific about the pressure pads that i was looking to do

U could try mapping the pressure pads to multiple paramaters in traktor.. For example, make one pad do all these things:
1. Turn on fx unit 1 para 1 and use pressure to control fx level
2. Turn on fx unit 1 para 2 and use pressure to control fx level (make it go in some ratio to num 1)
3. Trigger a cue point

Something along the lines of a vci 380 pad pressure scenario..

Its a unique controller imo but again, if u just want a remix deck controller, midifighter or f1 are probably better choices tbh
Rosana Verity
25.08.2012
I got my Quneo today and I really don't know what to do with it. I'm a traktor user and those 16 pads really serve no purpose for me right now. If i could control my Remix Decks with it, that'd be amazing, but I can't. If anyone can hack this thing to give it HID, I'll be very happy.
Chasidy Heckenbach
19.04.2012
Originally Posted by franekk
also all software and probably firmware will be open source so i believe it would be easy to implement different midi modes - absolute or relative
this is true - tho an odd omission given all the cool stuff they've already put into the firmware. there again... what u don't want is a midi controller constantly streaming out data that isn't any use to most people maybe.

the open firmware is very interesting - and for me may push that up my "maybe buy" list must admit i had forgotten it would be open source...
Elfriede Osbourne
19.04.2012
here is little better video with visualization of touches on screen (1:30)


also all software and probably firmware will be open source so i believe it would be easy to implement different midi modes - absolute or relative
Chasidy Heckenbach
19.04.2012
they had said that the normal price would also be 200usd. i do like it but believe its a bit over priced. it is quite unique tho so im sure it'll have a big following. midi seems good tho odd no relative messages sent out for movements of faders like an encoder - that would have been very cool - esp for dj purposes. not sure how useful the after touch will be but could be pretty cool for controlling effects - as ofc is having a 4x4 grid of XY pads.

it would make a great general purpose controller for studio use - but i'm looking at the new K2, behringer series, MF3D and F1 for now as next purchases (not all of them ofc )
Elfriede Osbourne
19.04.2012
200 usd was price for preorders at kickstarter, normal price should be about 230-250 usd. usually price for europe is same amount but in eur, this sucks for us folks in europe (ipad in us 500usd, europe 500 eur...), so 222 is quite reasonable price, at least for me, because i can see tons of new possibilit from this baby
Just believe - each pad can record your begining XY possition and volocity, then record your pressure and movement, all this with 4 tricolor led feedback (sadly no rgb)

example - instant effects on pads: depending on corner you press it will assign it to different channel (or all in the center), then by reading your velocity, pressure, movement you coud control up to 3 parameter - all with one touch

another example lower 4x2 grid could act as two f1 with 8x4 pads, and you could still map pressure and movment of your finger when you play clip for example filter or volume

and those two circular controllers are ideal for deck control with led feedback, and you could use pressure to adjust seek speed
Chasidy Heckenbach
18.04.2012
i thought they were going to come in at 200usd which is more like 150eur. 222eur seems a bit expensive - tho it does have a lot of potential. would make for a great multi purpose midi controller but the only thing i really like on it over other controllers is being velocity sensitive and being able to turn the 4x4 pads into 8x8.
Elfriede Osbourne
18.04.2012
Look like they are cooming soon to stores, They are listed at Thomann with release date 30.04 and price 222 EUR
http://www.thomann.de/pl/keith_mcmillen_quneo.htm

I believe it will be killer controller, both for production and djing, one of them (or pair) and K2
Leeanna Ayla
07.12.2011
Merged.
Chasidy Heckenbach
21.11.2011
Originally Posted by carson@kmi
Way to copy me, Matt.
the posts were only 2 mins apart to be fair so probably one posted while the other was being written.

edit: and very cool being fixed at 200$, i believe that's a pretty good price point. low enough to be cheaper than *most* tablets anyway and i appreciate there's a lot of stuff in there with all the led feedback and 16 xy drum pads.

i'd be very interested to hear what kind of midi they'll be sending out - tho i presume the firmware could be modded anyway being open source?
Van Holod
21.11.2011
Way to copy me, Matt.
Caroline Mcgory
21.11.2011
Hi,
Wanted to address some issues/questions!

QuNeo will be $200. Both now and in the future. We're very committed to making sure this is not only the best controller, but the best for the money!

We're also committed to quality. The SoftStep (though small, light, and fairly inexpensive) is incredibly durable (carbon fiber, sealed components). QuNeo will be a high quality device!

Any and all questions can be e-mailed to me at [email protected]

Glad everyone is excited! We are too!
Thanks
Matt Hettich
Product Specialist @ KMI
Van Holod
21.11.2011
Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you all know that the QuNeo is happening. It is real, and it will be $200!
Era Roka
21.11.2011
Originally Posted by deathstarchris
I'm modding mine as soon as I get it! ALL WHITE.
It's going into the slide out of my DSC!

This piece of gear is just soo amazing
Adriana Bazzelle
21.11.2011
I'm modding mine as soon as I get it! ALL WHITE.
It's going into the slide out of my DSC!

Chasidy Heckenbach
21.11.2011
Originally Posted by kevz718
pretty hard to judge what the quality will feel like based on available info.. looks pretty good quality tho but who knows.. what would u believe a good target price would be? I mean you can pretty much buy one now for $200 but thats more of a pre-production price so I'd imagine it will be higher when it comes to market.. $250? $300?
must admit i was considering backing the project for 200$ to get one as soon as it comes out which does point to the normal price being over that. i don't believe it'd sell well tho if the price was over 200$. the scs.3d/3m's are very cheap these days 2nd hand and do most of what it does apart from the xy pads and then there's those new cubase (?) ones too.

i believe the best thing about this new device is the drum pads, i'm not too keen on the odd layout of the rest of the controls, but i'd certainly pay 200$ for a 4x4 grid of xy drum pads so long as they're nice and tactile - else a tablet pc would be better as while less tactile it's much more flexible.

edit: tho ofc a tablet pc is bugger all use for actual drumming on, no pressure sensitivity etc - but fine for effects controls which is what this new controller should be awesome for i reckon
Cliff Lohman
21.11.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
i'm curious about the target price... could be quite high i guess due to the x/y nature of each drum pad. hope not tho unless the pads are really nice like on an akai or something.
pretty hard to judge what the quality will feel like based on available info.. looks pretty good quality tho but who knows.. what would u believe a good target price would be? I mean you can pretty much buy one now for $200 but thats more of a pre-production price so I'd imagine it will be higher when it comes to market.. $250? $300?

At that point, your getting into ipad price territory so it has to be good quality and very functional.. I guess the fact that its USB + open source has a huge one-up on the ipad as far as controllers go.

Whats the quality like on the softstep? Id imagine you'd be looking at same build quality as that.. I feel like the softstep is slightly overpriced for what it does and the quality doesnt look that great. But looks are deceiving.. any owners care to comment?
Chasidy Heckenbach
21.11.2011
i'm curious about the target price... could be quite high i guess due to the x/y nature of each drum pad. hope not tho unless the pads are really nice like on an akai or something.
Cliff Lohman
21.11.2011
Up to 33k now.. I would love to hear the story behind the production of this thing from conception to kickstarter funding to how the money was used and the final outcome.. Keith, please consider sharing?
Ella Rick
21.11.2011
I'll be keeping my eye on this, interesting!
Adriana Bazzelle
20.11.2011
I have not had a project on Kickstarter, but I have considered it.
I picked up on this one and backed it and I also backed the Chip Maestro too.
I'm glad Kickstarter is around cause these projects would have not got off the ground so fast.
Chasidy Heckenbach
20.11.2011
Originally Posted by d.julius
It's Look pretty sweet , i would like to see the final version It's can be a good concept , but for me it's not realy accurate compared to ipad
probably will be at least as accurate as an ipad - as each drum pad is a mini X/Y pad with 128 resolution in each direction - plus is tactile unlike an ipad.
Chasidy Heckenbach
20.11.2011
thread started by the developer 4 days ago which oddly got hardly any interest: http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=40664
Micha Tollas
20.11.2011
It's Look pretty sweet , i would like to see the final version It's can be a good concept , but for me it's not realy accurate compared to ipad
Candy Vardy
20.11.2011
Hey guys I just spotted this off Richie Hawtin's FB page.

Its a new open source midi, USB pad controller from QuNeo, and IMO it looks fucking awesome. What do you guys believe?

Here's the link and video:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nd-usb-pad-con

EDIT: Dammit its a repost, mods please delete. kthanks.
Lorna Hagerty
20.11.2011
looks sick
Lawana Spratlen
20.11.2011
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nd-usb-pad-con
Cliff Lohman
19.11.2011
Originally Posted by zestoi
there's already a thread about it http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=40664

edit: must admit i thought more people would have commented on that thread about it tho - does look very cool
missed the orig thread.. thnx for pointing out.. will change the topic to something different

check out how well their kickstarter project is doing $25k in a few days. Seems like a good motivator for anybody whos got their own project in mind.

anybody ever try to fund a diy controller or other dj product via kickstarter?
Chasidy Heckenbach
19.11.2011
Originally Posted by kevz718
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nd-usb-pad-con

Thought u guys would be interested in this new controller.. Saw it on skratchworx
there's already a thread about it http://www.djranking s.com/community /showthread.php?t=40664

edit: must admit i thought more people would have commented on that thread about it tho - does look very cool

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