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Headphone recommendation with a weird twist...
Posted on: 06.12.2012 by Leota Dolney
So, I need some recommendations on headphones, but I have a weird requirement. I do Judo and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and as a result have developed some slight "cauliflower ear". Basically, parts of my ear have been flattened out and are a little "lumpy". It's not too noticeable, but the problem that I have is that some headphones put a lot of pressure on the ear itself and that causes me some discomfort.

I have the AIAIAI TMA-1s right now. I actually like them a lot for DJing: the sound is great...I only have them on both ears when I am cueing, otherwise they are around my neck or on one ear with the other earcup tucked behind my other ear. So they are pretty comfortable for that use...but I can't just sit and listen to music with them for a long time (e.g., a few hours) because they put too much pressure on my ears.

I was considering the V-MODA Crossfade LP2 and the Ultrasone DJ1 Pro as they seem to me to be more around the ear vs. on the ear. Any thoughts on either of these, or something else?

Also, I tried the Pioneer HDJ2000 and didn't like them...so they are out. And somehow, just on principle I don't want any of the Beats by Dre...
Leota Dolney
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Nebra
As far as isolation, they have 3 slits shaped like a V on the side so they aren't completely noise-canceling. but that's only really noticeable when you aren't playing music. Once there's music blasting through them they do a pretty good job isolating, maybe not the best, but good enough.

As for pressure I don't believe that will be an issue, they cover my ears completely and are very flexible. I have no problem wearing them for long periods of time. But again thats just my opinion and I'm sure your head isn't shaped the same as mine lol.
Thanks...I am still undecided...If I go with another pair, I am slightly leaning toward the V-Modas...but will probably wait for a good price on them before I decide to pull the trigger.

UPDATE: Don't know why I didn't try it before, but I switched the ear pads on the TMA-1s and and adjusted the headband slightly, and they are feeling much more comfortable for long-term listening. I may still get the V-Modas...but it is less pressing now...no pun intended.

Don't know how many people have cauliflower ear or other ear deformities in this community ...mine is admittedly only slight, but it still affects comfort when headphones are on long-term. I believe I will likely move toward headphones that are around-the-ear as in the V-MODAs...and if I ever figure out how to DJ with IEMs, I may try them as well. Actually...I was believeing of making a cheap prototype pair of IEMs with some Skull Candy earbuds and some Radians custom mold ear plugs just to see how that DJ workflow would work.
Catrina Mogle
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
I am leaning toward the the V-MODAs...so far what I have heard is good...I am just concerned with their coverage & pressure on the ear. I want isolation, but not too much pressure.
As far as isolation, they have 3 slits shaped like a V on the side so they aren't completely noise-canceling. but that's only really noticeable when you aren't playing music. Once there's music blasting through them they do a pretty good job isolating, maybe not the best, but good enough.

As for pressure I don't believe that will be an issue, they cover my ears completely and are very flexible. I have no problem wearing them for long periods of time. But again thats just my opinion and I'm sure your head isn't shaped the same as mine lol.
Leota Dolney
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by NewManSoon
How about a pair of in ear monitors? A good pair can be pricey, but they are nice. Plus you will look cool.
I am not opposed to IEMs...but three things stop me from going that direction.

1) I am not entirely sure how (if at all) they are suited for production as well as DJing.

2) Good ones are VERY expensive...You can get good DJ headphones for "reasonably" expensive...

3) and I hate to say admit it...I am not entirely sure I understand how DJing with IEMs actually works...how do you cue? how do you tell what's the main mix? how do you tell what the main mix sound is like? levels? etc.?

ok...there it is my secret is out...actually, that feels better to get that off my chest :-)
Leota Dolney
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Nebra
I can't speak for the ultrasone's as I've never used them but I have V-moda LP's and love them. The memory foam cups are great, I forget I have them on sometimes. And couldn't be happier with the sound quality and durability as well
I am leaning toward the the V-MODAs...so far what I have heard is good...I am just concerned with their coverage & pressure on the ear. I want isolation, but not too much pressure.
Leota Dolney
06.12.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
Weird .. I tried the studios and it felt like 2 big foam paper cups over my ears, felt horrible, great isolation though.
Likewise, I didn't like the TMA studios. The TMA-1s feel perfectly fine and the sound quality and isolation are great...they are just not comfortable for me for long extended wear...when DJing this isn't a problem as I am constantly taking them on/off, moving an earcup back off one ear etc. But for production on my laptop, or just listening to music they are just not comfortable for long-term use.
Leota Dolney
06.12.2012
So, I need some recommendations on headphones, but I have a weird requirement. I do Judo and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and as a result have developed some slight "cauliflower ear". Basically, parts of my ear have been flattened out and are a little "lumpy". It's not too noticeable, but the problem that I have is that some headphones put a lot of pressure on the ear itself and that causes me some discomfort.

I have the AIAIAI TMA-1s right now. I actually like them a lot for DJing: the sound is great...I only have them on both ears when I am cueing, otherwise they are around my neck or on one ear with the other earcup tucked behind my other ear. So they are pretty comfortable for that use...but I can't just sit and listen to music with them for a long time (e.g., a few hours) because they put too much pressure on my ears.

I was considering the V-MODA Crossfade LP2 and the Ultrasone DJ1 Pro as they seem to me to be more around the ear vs. on the ear. Any thoughts on either of these, or something else?

Also, I tried the Pioneer HDJ2000 and didn't like them...so they are out. And somehow, just on principle I don't want any of the Beats by Dre...
Rocco Fiveash
07.12.2012
I don't have a good pair of IEM's yet, but I tried a basic pair to see how they would work.. basically, I have both in my ears and have ONLY my cued track playing in them and I listen against the booth monitors. Once I get a new pair that can handle the bass, I believe I will be leaving the standard cup headphones at home. I love not having to cover my cueing ear, uncovering.. covering.. you get the idea.. I just turn off the cue on the mixer and back on when I need to. I have never been a fan of any split cue monitoring, I have always did the "one ear" method.

I am currently looking at the Shure SE 535 or SE 425 .. difference is 3 drivers or 2 drivers I believe.
Leota Dolney
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Nebra
As far as isolation, they have 3 slits shaped like a V on the side so they aren't completely noise-canceling. but that's only really noticeable when you aren't playing music. Once there's music blasting through them they do a pretty good job isolating, maybe not the best, but good enough.

As for pressure I don't believe that will be an issue, they cover my ears completely and are very flexible. I have no problem wearing them for long periods of time. But again thats just my opinion and I'm sure your head isn't shaped the same as mine lol.
Thanks...I am still undecided...If I go with another pair, I am slightly leaning toward the V-Modas...but will probably wait for a good price on them before I decide to pull the trigger.

UPDATE: Don't know why I didn't try it before, but I switched the ear pads on the TMA-1s and and adjusted the headband slightly, and they are feeling much more comfortable for long-term listening. I may still get the V-Modas...but it is less pressing now...no pun intended.

Don't know how many people have cauliflower ear or other ear deformities in this community ...mine is admittedly only slight, but it still affects comfort when headphones are on long-term. I believe I will likely move toward headphones that are around-the-ear as in the V-MODAs...and if I ever figure out how to DJ with IEMs, I may try them as well. Actually...I was believeing of making a cheap prototype pair of IEMs with some Skull Candy earbuds and some Radians custom mold ear plugs just to see how that DJ workflow would work.
Catrina Mogle
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by DirtyNerd
I am leaning toward the the V-MODAs...so far what I have heard is good...I am just concerned with their coverage & pressure on the ear. I want isolation, but not too much pressure.
As far as isolation, they have 3 slits shaped like a V on the side so they aren't completely noise-canceling. but that's only really noticeable when you aren't playing music. Once there's music blasting through them they do a pretty good job isolating, maybe not the best, but good enough.

As for pressure I don't believe that will be an issue, they cover my ears completely and are very flexible. I have no problem wearing them for long periods of time. But again thats just my opinion and I'm sure your head isn't shaped the same as mine lol.
Leota Dolney
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by NewManSoon
How about a pair of in ear monitors? A good pair can be pricey, but they are nice. Plus you will look cool.
I am not opposed to IEMs...but three things stop me from going that direction.

1) I am not entirely sure how (if at all) they are suited for production as well as DJing.

2) Good ones are VERY expensive...You can get good DJ headphones for "reasonably" expensive...

3) and I hate to say admit it...I am not entirely sure I understand how DJing with IEMs actually works...how do you cue? how do you tell what's the main mix? how do you tell what the main mix sound is like? levels? etc.?

ok...there it is my secret is out...actually, that feels better to get that off my chest :-)
Leota Dolney
07.12.2012
Originally Posted by Jay Nebra
I can't speak for the ultrasone's as I've never used them but I have V-moda LP's and love them. The memory foam cups are great, I forget I have them on sometimes. And couldn't be happier with the sound quality and durability as well
I am leaning toward the the V-MODAs...so far what I have heard is good...I am just concerned with their coverage & pressure on the ear. I want isolation, but not too much pressure.
Leota Dolney
06.12.2012
Originally Posted by deevey
Weird .. I tried the studios and it felt like 2 big foam paper cups over my ears, felt horrible, great isolation though.
Likewise, I didn't like the TMA studios. The TMA-1s feel perfectly fine and the sound quality and isolation are great...they are just not comfortable for me for long extended wear...when DJing this isn't a problem as I am constantly taking them on/off, moving an earcup back off one ear etc. But for production on my laptop, or just listening to music they are just not comfortable for long-term use.
Rocco Fiveash
06.12.2012
How about a pair of in ear monitors? A good pair can be pricey, but they are nice. Plus you will look cool.
Catrina Mogle
06.12.2012
I can't speak for the ultrasone's as I've never used them but I have V-moda LP's and love them. The memory foam cups are great, I forget I have them on sometimes. And couldn't be happier with the sound quality and durability as well
Rolanda Clodfelder
06.12.2012
Weird .. I tried the studios and it felt like 2 big foam paper cups over my ears, felt horrible, great isolation though.
Tatum Ansaldo
06.12.2012
If you like the sound of the TMAs, you could always try the studio edition. Big squishy ear cups but basically the same cans. http://www.aiaiai.dk/store/headphones/tma-1-studio
Rolanda Clodfelder
06.12.2012
Without a doubt I found the Vmoda's THE most comfortable headphones I have ever worn bar none, however they might put pressure on your ears if you have a bigger head or ears - the cushioning is gorgeous.

I spent some time in a headphone specialist shop a few weeks ago looking for a replacement for my V6's, they were the ONLY contender comfort wise, little heavier than the TMA's (which I really thought felt like crap TBH).

Sound was definitely on Par with the TMA's, however I'm settling on Marshall Majors which IMHO had a sound much closer to the V6's that I love, and a feel like HD25's on the head - really lightweight and very very portable, although not quite as comfortable as the Vmoda's (which feel like a plush pillow) - the marshalls are on-ear, but less "clampy" than the 25's.

I'd honestly say try before you buy though ... headphones IMHO are not a one-size-fits-all device, everyones need's and heads are different.

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