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Designing an all-in-one Traktor Controller
Posted on: 22.12.2012 by Valeri Millstein
The 0Kontrol:

A few weeks ago I started coming up with ideas for an ideal Traktor controller. Quickly I realized the things I needed in a perfect controller:

~ 4 Deck Mixer with EQs, Filters, Gains and Kills
~ High Quality sound card
~ High Performance grid for Instant FX, Cues and Looping (Arcade buttons...)
~ Intuitive LED Feedback
~ Transport Controls & Controls of all mundane tasks (Snap, Quantize, Loop Recorder, ect.)
~ New intuitive FX controls with multiple banks of kick ass fun stuff (Jog & Pitch FX, X/Y Pad)
~ High Quality Jogs and X Fader

With this gargantuan list of costly controls I feared this was an impossible controller; A dream.

Not being an artist my first mock ups looked like... poop. After awhile things started to just look like one totally pimped out S4. Here's a pic:

0Kontrol.jpg

The Mixer:

Noticeably a large X/Y pad is located in the center of the controller. With 4 banks of FX and deck assigns I believe this X/Y pad could easily contain bunches of fun. With a beatmasher and iceverb assigned on the fly buildups could make good use of its multiple midi messages. An S4 style loop recorder right above that. Browse encoder with all deck loading above that. Along with a Gain knob, Snap, Quantize and Browse buttons to top it off.

Each track would have headphone cue and X fader assigns, allowing for multiple decks on the X fade mix. Chunky Filter knobs and EQ with kills would make mixing comfortable. Top gain knobs and FX 1 and 2 assigns allow for more S4 resemblance.

The Decks

The arcade performance grid has four banks of functionality. One for Remix Decks, One for Cues, Two for instant grat FX. Simple SHIFT, SYNC, CUE, PLAY buttons mimic the S4. S4 style loopers directly above. A high quality Jog and pitch fader would allow for great mixing or Jog Pitch FX. Right on top would be FX unit one and encoder for FX selection.

Conclusion

Actually it seems everyone likes the concept. I might start working on making it actually happen once we have it finalized... Seems like it will be a mixer and a deck controller, or two deck controllers, or three, or FOUR!?!?! However many decks you need...
Valeri Millstein
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Would be great if firmware can switch full layer, not just arcade buttons. I'll made parameters for IG today and send you to add in Ultimate FX thread.
Thank you Stewe for all of your kick ass mapping help and info. Full layer could allow for Jog wheel Fx selection. In "Transport Mode" Jogs would act normal but in one of the Grat modes the Jog and Pitch fader would be for FX? Sounds smooth.
Kellie Myrum
27.12.2012
Originally Posted by 0Notice
Firmware probably. Yea like one one of the pages would have transports and the others would be performance.
Would be great if firmware can switch full layer, not just arcade buttons. I'll made parameters for IG today and send you to add in Ultimate FX thread.
Valeri Millstein
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Eight arcades should handle all primary transport controls but if you're planning to make performance mapping 12 is more like it. I like pages idea. Is there a firmware or mapping thing?
Firmware probably. Yea like one one of the pages would have transports and the others would be performance.
Valeri Millstein
25.12.2012
Originally Posted by B4YU
Made a 'Digital' version of your draft for fun lol... thought I might contribute something even though I don't use Traktor, I really like the concept

I could make a 3D model but it would probably take some time...

4XW8E.jpg
Super cool! Thanks so much! Going to work on the deck design a lot more. I am believeing about adding a 3rd row of arcade buttons and getting rid of the normal ones right above and adding 6 preset selectors instead of 4. Bringing the pitch-fader down and centering the platter. Oh and did I forget to mention how kick ass moving platers would be? He he he. Merry Christmas.
Kellie Myrum
25.12.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
I suspect you'll have to make the deck controller slightly larger, currently the pitch fader would get stuck on the jog wheel! :P
No it wont - It's a hill fader
Drew Beans
25.12.2012
Originally Posted by 0Notice
New Midi Mixer design!

Attachment 14384

Edit: Wow this was my 100th post!
Made a 'Digital' version of your draft for fun lol... thought I might contribute something even though I don't use Traktor, I really like the concept

I could make a 3D model but it would probably take some time...

4XW8E.jpg
Valeri Millstein
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by botstein
What happened to "An X1 and an F1 is all I need."?
Minimalism is great when something has very customized function, but large scale products... OH who am I kidding more is better... Editing my sig.
Ervin Calvery
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by 0Notice
better to have more than less!
What happened to "An X1 and an F1 is all I need."?
Valeri Millstein
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Layout for deck section could go great for modular controller. Would like to see DJTT made this

But with another row of arcades.
I almost made it a shift button, an encoder and two load buttons. Shift would allow encoder to go through Playlists and loading for C and D.
Valeri Millstein
26.12.2012
So far no clue on prices, but since they are just midi controllers cant be hugely expensive.
Kellie Myrum
26.12.2012
I'll keep them coming

This deck module got great mapping potential. Far as I see... Have any calculations on costs?
Valeri Millstein
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Would be great if firmware can switch full layer, not just arcade buttons. I'll made parameters for IG today and send you to add in Ultimate FX thread.
Thank you Stewe for all of your kick ass mapping help and info. Full layer could allow for Jog wheel Fx selection. In "Transport Mode" Jogs would act normal but in one of the Grat modes the Jog and Pitch fader would be for FX? Sounds smooth.
Kellie Myrum
27.12.2012
Originally Posted by 0Notice
Firmware probably. Yea like one one of the pages would have transports and the others would be performance.
Would be great if firmware can switch full layer, not just arcade buttons. I'll made parameters for IG today and send you to add in Ultimate FX thread.
Valeri Millstein
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Eight arcades should handle all primary transport controls but if you're planning to make performance mapping 12 is more like it. I like pages idea. Is there a firmware or mapping thing?
Firmware probably. Yea like one one of the pages would have transports and the others would be performance.
Kellie Myrum
25.12.2012
Eight arcades should handle all primary transport controls but if you're planning to make performance mapping 12 is more like it. I like pages idea. Is there a firmware or mapping thing?
Valeri Millstein
25.12.2012
Originally Posted by B4YU
Made a 'Digital' version of your draft for fun lol... thought I might contribute something even though I don't use Traktor, I really like the concept

I could make a 3D model but it would probably take some time...

4XW8E.jpg
Super cool! Thanks so much! Going to work on the deck design a lot more. I am believeing about adding a 3rd row of arcade buttons and getting rid of the normal ones right above and adding 6 preset selectors instead of 4. Bringing the pitch-fader down and centering the platter. Oh and did I forget to mention how kick ass moving platers would be? He he he. Merry Christmas.
Kellie Myrum
25.12.2012
Originally Posted by MrPopinjay
I suspect you'll have to make the deck controller slightly larger, currently the pitch fader would get stuck on the jog wheel! :P
No it wont - It's a hill fader
Era Roka
25.12.2012
Place the pitch fader at the bottom and build it, it's really not that hard.
Dottie Tabet
25.12.2012
The mixer-part reminds me slightly of the DJM-2000 layout
Kiyoko Wellisch
25.12.2012
I suspect you'll have to make the deck controller slightly larger, currently the pitch fader would get stuck on the jog wheel! :P
Drew Beans
25.12.2012
Originally Posted by 0Notice
New Midi Mixer design!

Attachment 14384

Edit: Wow this was my 100th post!
Made a 'Digital' version of your draft for fun lol... thought I might contribute something even though I don't use Traktor, I really like the concept

I could make a 3D model but it would probably take some time...

4XW8E.jpg
Valeri Millstein
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by botstein
What happened to "An X1 and an F1 is all I need."?
Minimalism is great when something has very customized function, but large scale products... OH who am I kidding more is better... Editing my sig.
Ervin Calvery
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by 0Notice
better to have more than less!
What happened to "An X1 and an F1 is all I need."?
Valeri Millstein
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Layout for deck section could go great for modular controller. Would like to see DJTT made this

But with another row of arcades.
I almost made it a shift button, an encoder and two load buttons. Shift would allow encoder to go through Playlists and loading for C and D.
Kellie Myrum
24.12.2012
Layout for deck section could go great for modular controller. Would like to see DJTT made this

But with another row of arcades.
Valeri Millstein
23.12.2012
Originally Posted by xs2man
Nice. Like that. Headphone input / controls on the front?
Yea probably 2 headphone outs. Along with independent headphone controls.
Tamela Batara
23.12.2012
Nice. Like that. Headphone input / controls on the front?
Kiyoko Wellisch
23.12.2012
Very nice! I'd certainly like something like this if I were a controller DJ.
Valeri Millstein
22.12.2012
New Midi Mixer design!

Mixer Design.jpg

Edit: Wow this was my 100th post!
Valeri Millstein
22.12.2012
Originally Posted by beaubryte
Great concept, maybe it's something you can achieve virtually on a tablet with TouchOSC or Lemur App?
I personally believe the VCI400 SE with a midi fighter has a lot of the same potential.
True a lot of this controller is kind of redundant on the FX side. But its still better to have more than less! I will be getting an iPad soon Lemur looks so lovely.
Valeri Millstein
22.12.2012
Originally Posted by xs2man
Phono in's for vinyl / timecode addition...
Sounds like a good idea! Ive always thought what if someone added transport functions and a midi fighter to a turntable... And an FX unit on top...
Claire Auyeung
22.12.2012
Great concept, maybe it's something you can achieve virtually on a tablet with TouchOSC or Lemur App?
I personally believe the VCI400 SE with a midi fighter has a lot of the same potential.
Tamela Batara
22.12.2012
Phono in's for vinyl / timecode addition...
Rose Schneeberg
22.12.2012
That looks totally awesome
I would definitely buy it

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