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Posted on: 30.03.2013 by Ana Butt
First of all, hi there, I have been believeing getting whole new different setup, at the moment I own, pair of Pioneer CDJ 2000 Nexus, DJM 700 and pair of traktor F1's, I dont like the feel of CDJ's , creativity is here, but feel so limited, so planning to sell everything except F1's and had ideas for new set -up, so here it goes, i was planning on getting Allen Heath Xone db4, Maschine, Pioneer rmx 1000 and pair of F1's that i currently own, so whole idea is this, use F1's as Deck A and B, use Maschine with Ableton but route to traktor pro, I know what is pioneer rmx 1000 capable of, so i believe it would be good to have it, so here it is, any general thoughts?

I know its kinda irrelevant using Maschine in ableton and route to traktor pro, but its my general ideas to combine both programs and have alot of control on your hands,i'm not looking to PRODUCE live or something like that, i'm looking just to have more control over tracks, there is good example - Richie Hawtin.
Ana Butt
31.03.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Argh, trying to watch that video above but it's driving me absolutely mad that his Maschine is 1 beat out of sync with the rest of the track :@
The legend he is, I believe he knows, and I believe he wants to be it that way!
Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Student
This is wrong. Sorry vriend, maar dit moet ik even rechtzetten

In The Netherlands there are big differences between the venues you play. But I'll guarantee you they won't book you purely on the music you bring.
Hehe, depending on the scene. Of course, you must produce good music. But my scene is mostly deeper techno (not that Drumcode techno house 'thing').
Trula Willadsen
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
You don't need a jog for Traktor. Just beatgrid everything right (preparation). I don't know where you live, but here in The Netherlands they'll hire you for the music you bring, not if you're spinning with Traktor or CDJ's. CDJ's for home are an expensive waste of limited capabilities, IMHO.
This is wrong. Sorry vriend, maar dit moet ik even rechtzetten

In The Netherlands there are big differences between the venues you play. But I'll guarantee you they won't book you purely on the music you bring.
Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
So how do you propose you hire a DJ? Sit down and listen to him for 5 hours and imagine how the crowd will react? You can't trust a recorded mix because there's no guarantee he made it. Believe me, you don't want to trial by fire and just throw them on, one bad evening can do almost irreparable damage to your clubs footfall. You hire based on reputation and image.

Look you asked for suggestions for your setup, I'm just suggesting you don't actually need anything. Replace the DJM with a Xone, or just get a RMX-1000 on top of your current, and your set up would be the envy of most DJs. You will want at least one jog with Traktor, the beatgrids are amazing, but they aren't perfect, and it's something only a jog/touchstrip can fix on the fly.

Have you considered the Twitch to control Traktors more mundane aspects? You don't have to use its sound card, and you can find them quite cheap now.



Could not agree more.
You don't need a jog for Traktor. Just beatgrid everything right (preparation). I don't know where you live, but here in The Netherlands they'll hire you for the music you bring, not if you're spinning with Traktor or CDJ's. CDJ's for home are an expensive waste of limited capabilities, IMHO.
Jetta Drenzek
30.03.2013
So how do you propose you hire a DJ? Sit down and listen to him for 5 hours and imagine how the crowd will react? You can't trust a recorded mix because there's no guarantee he made it. Believe me, you don't want to trial by fire and just throw them on, one bad evening can do almost irreparable damage to your clubs footfall. You hire based on reputation and image.

Look you asked for suggestions for your setup, I'm just suggesting you don't actually need anything. Replace the DJM with a Xone, or just get a RMX-1000 on top of your current, and your set up would be the envy of most DJs. You will want at least one jog with Traktor, the beatgrids are amazing, but they aren't perfect, and it's something only a jog/touchstrip can fix on the fly.

Have you considered the Twitch to control Traktors more mundane aspects? You don't have to use its sound card, and you can find them quite cheap now.

Originally Posted by makar1
Expensive gear is not necessary. Being able to mix on what's available is though.
Could not agree more.
Ana Butt
31.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
And that's fair enough, my point is if you owned a club, would you rather hire the guy using what all the big names use, or would you hire the guy in his bedroom with a load of sparkly space devices? I'm looking at it from the working DJ point of view as opposed to the hobbyist, by the way.
1ST and the most IMPORTANT! I believe, everyone would hire a guy whose MUSIC is good, the guy who would fill up space and customers would buy drinks and come back for 2nd 3rd 4th etc etc round, and would come back again because of the atmosphere, and in my opinion DJ makes atmosphere, gear will not fill up the club, and by the way any half decent club has top end gear anyways, but i would prefer using what I use and what I'm comfortable with, I would believe any club owner would know the basics of business specially Night Club business which doesn't take rocket science to understand, and would understand that hiring by what gear you use is big no no
Ana Butt
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
Well maybe they could, but that doesn't make them great DJs. In fact if you walk into a venue and whip out 2000's, you instantly come across as a professional, even if you have no idea how to use them.

But! As you said, you don't like the feel of them. I've never used a Xone, but I've never seen a bad review. Part of me wonders if that's because people are in denial that they just dropped the price of a second hand car on a mixer and it's shite, but for the price it HAS to be good, right?

If you're only running clip based, then yeah use A and B as remix decks, run Maschine into C and Ableton into D, assuming you're using a Macbook which if I recall makes interapp audio routing easy. Then route all of Traktor's outputs into the Xone. From experience, I wouldn't use a launchpad for Ableton, mine broke after not much use and it wasn't THAT good, it was exactly what you'd expect from a
Jetta Drenzek
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
Because at least with a Xone you'll get real filters and multiple FX units instead of shitty Color FX and one FX unit which comes with an 'Echo' (popularized term) which sound so... !@#$

I suggest you better try out a Xone, I was skeptical once I spinned for the first time on it, but afterwards I didn't want nothing else.
I really want to try one, and I know it will be absolutely amazing. But I cannot justify spending that much on a mixer I will never use! Same reason I don't have 2000's.
Jeffrey Akinsanya
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
Because at least with a Xone you'll get real filters and multiple FX units instead of shitty Color FX and one FX unit which comes with an 'Echo' (popularized term) which sound so... !@#$

I suggest you better try out a Xone, I was skeptical once I spinned for the first time on it, but afterwards I didn't want nothing else.
no doubt the xone db2 and db4 look amazing but with all this software running whats the point???

i want a db2
Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I've never used a Xone, but I've never seen a bad review. Part of me wonders if that's because people are in denial that they just dropped the price of a second hand car on a mixer and it's shite, but for the price it HAS to be good, right?
Because at least with a Xone you'll get real filters and multiple FX units instead of shitty Color FX and one FX unit which comes with an 'Echo' (popularized term) which sound so... !@#$

I suggest you better try out a Xone, I was skeptical once I spinned for the first time on it, but afterwards I didn't want nothing else.
Jetta Drenzek
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by MockusD
They are fantastic indeed, but I dont like the feel of them at all, cant stand them at all, and the point that Paris Hilton, Snooki, Jwoww and Justin Bieber could just hop onto CDJ 2000 Nexus'es to slip in USB/CD and go DJing, that would be the hardest thing probably, the USB/CD bit obviously.
Well maybe they could, but that doesn't make them great DJs. In fact if you walk into a venue and whip out 2000's, you instantly come across as a professional, even if you have no idea how to use them.

But! As you said, you don't like the feel of them. I've never used a Xone, but I've never seen a bad review. Part of me wonders if that's because people are in denial that they just dropped the price of a second hand car on a mixer and it's shite, but for the price it HAS to be good, right?

If you're only running clip based, then yeah use A and B as remix decks, run Maschine into C and Ableton into D, assuming you're using a Macbook which if I recall makes interapp audio routing easy. Then route all of Traktor's outputs into the Xone. From experience, I wouldn't use a launchpad for Ableton, mine broke after not much use and it wasn't THAT good, it was exactly what you'd expect from a
Ana Butt
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I you're complaining that the gear is limiting, why would you get rid of anything? Keep adding till you have everything you need, then trim the excess!

Also, two CDJ-2000N should not be limiting, they're a fantastic unit.
They are fantastic indeed, but I dont like the feel of them at all, cant stand them at all, and the point that Paris Hilton, Snooki, Jwoww and Justin Bieber could just hop onto CDJ 2000 Nexus'es to slip in USB/CD and go DJing, that would be the hardest thing probably, the USB/CD bit obviously.

Originally Posted by MRG12EG
Maschine a great deal because you get the software etc.. but i'd be tempted with Push!!!
Yes I could, but again I would feel more comfortable that I would have it at my finger tips, in this case Maschine, and I will have a look at Push too) thank you for opinions MRG12EG
Ana Butt
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
I know what you want, I kinda want the same, minus the RMX-1000 and second F1. You'll have two options here:

  1. Xone 92, RMX-1000, Kontrol F1's and Maschine plus a 5/6-channel soundcard (Traktor Audio 10). The RMX-1000 is a Send/Return FX unit, it gives feedback (Return) on the sound you're letting through from your mixer (Send). With the Xone 92, you'll have more control over the FX channel opposed to a Pioneer Mixer. That's where the 2 channels on the left of the Xone 92 come in handy. So by this setup you could have 4 Traktor Decks and 1 FX Send/Return channel and maybe route the output of Maschine (Ableton) to channel 3 or 4 on your Xone mixer. Would have been nice if Traktor brings out a Traktor Audio 12, so you'll have 6 separate channels, but unfortunately you'll have to get a 19 inch soundcard then (something like the Echo Audiofire 12).
  2. The other option would be a Xone DB4 with the Maschine and two F1's, without the RMX-1000. The FX units on the Xone DB4 are a couple of leagues above the FX on the RMX-1000, but they're more studio like FX. I'm talking out of my own experience here, I don't like the RMX-1000 that much - especially given the ridiculously high price. With this setup you can route each Traktor deck via USB (so no need for an external soundcard) and route the Maschine (Ableton) output to channel 3 or 4 on the mixer. Or you could buy a two-channel soundcard like the Traktor Audio 2 or purchase a Xone K2 (with build-in soundcard) and route the Maschine (Ableton) output to the MIC channel on the Xone DB4.
You are right, its what I want, so at this moment of time its not really possible, ok so option 2 it is,

MRG12EG,

I want to use Maschine to add samples to tracks that are played out, use with Ableton to produce, to DJ live with it, everything more or less, it sounds kinda weird, i know second to none about "sound engineering" or anyway you want to put it, so this is hard topic for me actually :X
Ana Butt
31.03.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Argh, trying to watch that video above but it's driving me absolutely mad that his Maschine is 1 beat out of sync with the rest of the track :@
The legend he is, I believe he knows, and I believe he wants to be it that way!
Doreen Schurle
30.03.2013
Argh, trying to watch that video above but it's driving me absolutely mad that his Maschine is 1 beat out of sync with the rest of the track :@
Judi Sissel
30.03.2013
I'd say start off with the mixer and build up from there. The capabilities of the DB series is ridiculous and the fact that it is a manufacturer supported, high end, digital mixer extends its life and value.

As far as adding in maschine, I'd say that you could possibly achieve most of what you want with the 2-F1's in Traktor. If you watch this set from Richie Hawtin, he is sparingly using it to make fills either by "note repeat" or "step sequencer" mode.

Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Student
This is wrong. Sorry vriend, maar dit moet ik even rechtzetten

In The Netherlands there are big differences between the venues you play. But I'll guarantee you they won't book you purely on the music you bring.
Hehe, depending on the scene. Of course, you must produce good music. But my scene is mostly deeper techno (not that Drumcode techno house 'thing').
Trula Willadsen
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
You don't need a jog for Traktor. Just beatgrid everything right (preparation). I don't know where you live, but here in The Netherlands they'll hire you for the music you bring, not if you're spinning with Traktor or CDJ's. CDJ's for home are an expensive waste of limited capabilities, IMHO.
This is wrong. Sorry vriend, maar dit moet ik even rechtzetten

In The Netherlands there are big differences between the venues you play. But I'll guarantee you they won't book you purely on the music you bring.
Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
So how do you propose you hire a DJ? Sit down and listen to him for 5 hours and imagine how the crowd will react? You can't trust a recorded mix because there's no guarantee he made it. Believe me, you don't want to trial by fire and just throw them on, one bad evening can do almost irreparable damage to your clubs footfall. You hire based on reputation and image.

Look you asked for suggestions for your setup, I'm just suggesting you don't actually need anything. Replace the DJM with a Xone, or just get a RMX-1000 on top of your current, and your set up would be the envy of most DJs. You will want at least one jog with Traktor, the beatgrids are amazing, but they aren't perfect, and it's something only a jog/touchstrip can fix on the fly.

Have you considered the Twitch to control Traktors more mundane aspects? You don't have to use its sound card, and you can find them quite cheap now.



Could not agree more.
You don't need a jog for Traktor. Just beatgrid everything right (preparation). I don't know where you live, but here in The Netherlands they'll hire you for the music you bring, not if you're spinning with Traktor or CDJ's. CDJ's for home are an expensive waste of limited capabilities, IMHO.
Jetta Drenzek
30.03.2013
So how do you propose you hire a DJ? Sit down and listen to him for 5 hours and imagine how the crowd will react? You can't trust a recorded mix because there's no guarantee he made it. Believe me, you don't want to trial by fire and just throw them on, one bad evening can do almost irreparable damage to your clubs footfall. You hire based on reputation and image.

Look you asked for suggestions for your setup, I'm just suggesting you don't actually need anything. Replace the DJM with a Xone, or just get a RMX-1000 on top of your current, and your set up would be the envy of most DJs. You will want at least one jog with Traktor, the beatgrids are amazing, but they aren't perfect, and it's something only a jog/touchstrip can fix on the fly.

Have you considered the Twitch to control Traktors more mundane aspects? You don't have to use its sound card, and you can find them quite cheap now.

Originally Posted by makar1
Expensive gear is not necessary. Being able to mix on what's available is though.
Could not agree more.
Alphonso Deitchman
30.03.2013
Expensive gear is not necessary. Being able to mix on what's available is though.
Ana Butt
31.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
And that's fair enough, my point is if you owned a club, would you rather hire the guy using what all the big names use, or would you hire the guy in his bedroom with a load of sparkly space devices? I'm looking at it from the working DJ point of view as opposed to the hobbyist, by the way.
1ST and the most IMPORTANT! I believe, everyone would hire a guy whose MUSIC is good, the guy who would fill up space and customers would buy drinks and come back for 2nd 3rd 4th etc etc round, and would come back again because of the atmosphere, and in my opinion DJ makes atmosphere, gear will not fill up the club, and by the way any half decent club has top end gear anyways, but i would prefer using what I use and what I'm comfortable with, I would believe any club owner would know the basics of business specially Night Club business which doesn't take rocket science to understand, and would understand that hiring by what gear you use is big no no
Jetta Drenzek
31.03.2013
And that's fair enough, my point is if you owned a club, would you rather hire the guy using what all the big names use, or would you hire the guy in his bedroom with a load of sparkly space devices? I'm looking at it from the working DJ point of view as opposed to the hobbyist, by the way.
Ana Butt
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
Well maybe they could, but that doesn't make them great DJs. In fact if you walk into a venue and whip out 2000's, you instantly come across as a professional, even if you have no idea how to use them.

But! As you said, you don't like the feel of them. I've never used a Xone, but I've never seen a bad review. Part of me wonders if that's because people are in denial that they just dropped the price of a second hand car on a mixer and it's shite, but for the price it HAS to be good, right?

If you're only running clip based, then yeah use A and B as remix decks, run Maschine into C and Ableton into D, assuming you're using a Macbook which if I recall makes interapp audio routing easy. Then route all of Traktor's outputs into the Xone. From experience, I wouldn't use a launchpad for Ableton, mine broke after not much use and it wasn't THAT good, it was exactly what you'd expect from a
Jetta Drenzek
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
Because at least with a Xone you'll get real filters and multiple FX units instead of shitty Color FX and one FX unit which comes with an 'Echo' (popularized term) which sound so... !@#$

I suggest you better try out a Xone, I was skeptical once I spinned for the first time on it, but afterwards I didn't want nothing else.
I really want to try one, and I know it will be absolutely amazing. But I cannot justify spending that much on a mixer I will never use! Same reason I don't have 2000's.
Jeffrey Akinsanya
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
Because at least with a Xone you'll get real filters and multiple FX units instead of shitty Color FX and one FX unit which comes with an 'Echo' (popularized term) which sound so... !@#$

I suggest you better try out a Xone, I was skeptical once I spinned for the first time on it, but afterwards I didn't want nothing else.
no doubt the xone db2 and db4 look amazing but with all this software running whats the point???

i want a db2
Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I've never used a Xone, but I've never seen a bad review. Part of me wonders if that's because people are in denial that they just dropped the price of a second hand car on a mixer and it's shite, but for the price it HAS to be good, right?
Because at least with a Xone you'll get real filters and multiple FX units instead of shitty Color FX and one FX unit which comes with an 'Echo' (popularized term) which sound so... !@#$

I suggest you better try out a Xone, I was skeptical once I spinned for the first time on it, but afterwards I didn't want nothing else.
Jetta Drenzek
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by MockusD
They are fantastic indeed, but I dont like the feel of them at all, cant stand them at all, and the point that Paris Hilton, Snooki, Jwoww and Justin Bieber could just hop onto CDJ 2000 Nexus'es to slip in USB/CD and go DJing, that would be the hardest thing probably, the USB/CD bit obviously.
Well maybe they could, but that doesn't make them great DJs. In fact if you walk into a venue and whip out 2000's, you instantly come across as a professional, even if you have no idea how to use them.

But! As you said, you don't like the feel of them. I've never used a Xone, but I've never seen a bad review. Part of me wonders if that's because people are in denial that they just dropped the price of a second hand car on a mixer and it's shite, but for the price it HAS to be good, right?

If you're only running clip based, then yeah use A and B as remix decks, run Maschine into C and Ableton into D, assuming you're using a Macbook which if I recall makes interapp audio routing easy. Then route all of Traktor's outputs into the Xone. From experience, I wouldn't use a launchpad for Ableton, mine broke after not much use and it wasn't THAT good, it was exactly what you'd expect from a
Ana Butt
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I you're complaining that the gear is limiting, why would you get rid of anything? Keep adding till you have everything you need, then trim the excess!

Also, two CDJ-2000N should not be limiting, they're a fantastic unit.
They are fantastic indeed, but I dont like the feel of them at all, cant stand them at all, and the point that Paris Hilton, Snooki, Jwoww and Justin Bieber could just hop onto CDJ 2000 Nexus'es to slip in USB/CD and go DJing, that would be the hardest thing probably, the USB/CD bit obviously.

Originally Posted by MRG12EG
Maschine a great deal because you get the software etc.. but i'd be tempted with Push!!!
Yes I could, but again I would feel more comfortable that I would have it at my finger tips, in this case Maschine, and I will have a look at Push too) thank you for opinions MRG12EG
Jetta Drenzek
30.03.2013
I you're complaining that the gear is limiting, why would you get rid of anything? Keep adding till you have everything you need, then trim the excess!

Also, two CDJ-2000N should not be limiting, they're a fantastic unit.
Jeffrey Akinsanya
30.03.2013
Maschine a great deal because you get the software etc.. but i'd be tempted with Push!!!
Jeffrey Akinsanya
30.03.2013
no not weird i do get you...
the only reason i question Maschine is because you can trigger samples in ableton anyways.
Ana Butt
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by JDFS
I know what you want, I kinda want the same, minus the RMX-1000 and second F1. You'll have two options here:

  1. Xone 92, RMX-1000, Kontrol F1's and Maschine plus a 5/6-channel soundcard (Traktor Audio 10). The RMX-1000 is a Send/Return FX unit, it gives feedback (Return) on the sound you're letting through from your mixer (Send). With the Xone 92, you'll have more control over the FX channel opposed to a Pioneer Mixer. That's where the 2 channels on the left of the Xone 92 come in handy. So by this setup you could have 4 Traktor Decks and 1 FX Send/Return channel and maybe route the output of Maschine (Ableton) to channel 3 or 4 on your Xone mixer. Would have been nice if Traktor brings out a Traktor Audio 12, so you'll have 6 separate channels, but unfortunately you'll have to get a 19 inch soundcard then (something like the Echo Audiofire 12).
  2. The other option would be a Xone DB4 with the Maschine and two F1's, without the RMX-1000. The FX units on the Xone DB4 are a couple of leagues above the FX on the RMX-1000, but they're more studio like FX. I'm talking out of my own experience here, I don't like the RMX-1000 that much - especially given the ridiculously high price. With this setup you can route each Traktor deck via USB (so no need for an external soundcard) and route the Maschine (Ableton) output to channel 3 or 4 on the mixer. Or you could buy a two-channel soundcard like the Traktor Audio 2 or purchase a Xone K2 (with build-in soundcard) and route the Maschine (Ableton) output to the MIC channel on the Xone DB4.
You are right, its what I want, so at this moment of time its not really possible, ok so option 2 it is,

MRG12EG,

I want to use Maschine to add samples to tracks that are played out, use with Ableton to produce, to DJ live with it, everything more or less, it sounds kinda weird, i know second to none about "sound engineering" or anyway you want to put it, so this is hard topic for me actually :X
Jeffrey Akinsanya
30.03.2013
ok educate me what you going use the Maschine for?
Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by MRG12EG
quite a weird setup in my opinion and overkill,

Xone db4 is a lovely mixer but might be overkill considering your going to be mixing in internal mode... same goes to machine if you only want it as midi controller rather than a production DAW - there are probably cheaper alternatives you could go for.

your DJM700 is midi map able so you could just map it with the 2 F1's you already have..

so you want to mix in ableton and traktor?

if you want more control over ableton way to go is a launch pad or apc20/40 or the lovely livid OhmRGB

or an ipad!!
You're not getting the idea here. Where did you read he wants to mix internally?
Basil Forshee
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by MockusD
First of all, hi there, I have been believeing getting whole new different setup, at the moment I own, pair of Pioneer CDJ 2000 Nexus, DJM 700 and pair of traktor F1's, I dont like the feel of CDJ's , creativity is here, but feel so limited, so planning to sell everything except F1's and had ideas for new set -up, so here it goes, i was planning on getting Allen Heath Xone db4, Maschine, Pioneer rmx 1000 and pair of F1's that i currently own, so whole idea is this, use F1's as Deck A and B, use Maschine with Ableton but route to traktor pro, I know what is pioneer rmx 1000 capable of, so i believe it would be good to have it, so here it is, any general thoughts?

I know its kinda irrelevant using Maschine in ableton and route to traktor pro, but its my general ideas to combine both programs and have alot of control on your hands,i'm not looking to PRODUCE live or something like that, i'm looking just to have more control over tracks, there is good example - Richie Hawtin.
I know what you want, I kinda want the same, minus the RMX-1000 and second F1. You'll have two options here:

  1. Xone 92, RMX-1000, Kontrol F1's and Maschine plus a 5/6-channel soundcard (Traktor Audio 10). The RMX-1000 is a Send/Return FX unit, it gives feedback (Return) on the sound you're letting through from your mixer (Send). With the Xone 92, you'll have more control over the FX channel opposed to a Pioneer Mixer. That's where the 2 channels on the left of the Xone 92 come in handy. So by this setup you could have 4 Traktor Decks and 1 FX Send/Return channel and maybe route the output of Maschine (Ableton) to channel 3 or 4 on your Xone mixer. Would have been nice if Traktor brings out a Traktor Audio 12, so you'll have 6 separate channels, but unfortunately you'll have to get a 19 inch soundcard then (something like the Echo Audiofire 12).
  2. The other option would be a Xone DB4 with the Maschine and two F1's, without the RMX-1000. The FX units on the Xone DB4 are a couple of leagues above the FX on the RMX-1000, but they're more studio like FX. I'm talking out of my own experience here, I don't like the RMX-1000 that much - especially given the ridiculously high price. With this setup you can route each Traktor deck via USB (so no need for an external soundcard) and route the Maschine (Ableton) output to channel 3 or 4 on the mixer. Or you could buy a two-channel soundcard like the Traktor Audio 2 or purchase a Xone K2 (with build-in soundcard) and route the Maschine (Ableton) output to the MIC channel on the Xone DB4.
Alphonso Deitchman
30.03.2013
If you're using Ableton I believe you can use the RMX 1000 entirely through software VSTs.
Nga Mcquarter
30.03.2013
You should know the XoneB4 doesn't have FX send/return (it has already 4 FX units, I believe). You can actually get the RMX1000 to work with the DB4, but it's a little bit difficult and dangerous for the unit, also it doesn't allow you to work with the 4 channels. However I like how your setup is going to be!
Ana Butt
30.03.2013
First of all would I be able to use db4 as external mixer in traktor? and get sound output and control decks with F1's?
Jeffrey Akinsanya
30.03.2013
Originally Posted by MockusD
Well, I don't want to mix internally, no no, big no
my fav type of setup is like James Zabiela (ignoring the actual hardware he uses) hes got a traditional cdj or 2 deck setup but runs it along side ableton for mashups.

i'm not 100% sure what your trying to achieve can you explain more on what you wanna do...

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