I am the 99 percent...
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| Ryan Micks 09.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJ ATX
I believe it's safe to say there was little to no "negotiation". Back then labels such as Columbia put a pen and paper in front of you and said "sign". If you didn't, they brought in the next person(s) who fit the same image they saw in you, and back to the ghetto you went. So while your points are valid, they are not in this context. I believe the ease at which we can produce and distribute today has generated such laissez-faire attitudes towards issues like this. You need to understand is this was the 1960s, and this was a major, major, major label. I don't really see how the hard work versus laziness argument you implied works here.. Good on him to expose an issue that and while presented rather crudely, DJ ATX made further light of it: Contract law. If you're in the position to move into music as a livelihood it's definitely worth the time to seek out counsel and ensure you've done your due diligence before distributing your music or better yet, producing it under a label. A few hundred bucks now might save you a lot later on, or better yet provide you better earnings. |
| Romelia Stankard 05.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
Lester Chambers |
| Joselyn Supina 06.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by xonetacular
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| Margie Pavell 05.03.2012 | (taken from reddit) link : http://imgur.com/HK3ER |
| Ryan Micks 09.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by DJ ATX
I believe it's safe to say there was little to no "negotiation". Back then labels such as Columbia put a pen and paper in front of you and said "sign". If you didn't, they brought in the next person(s) who fit the same image they saw in you, and back to the ghetto you went. So while your points are valid, they are not in this context. I believe the ease at which we can produce and distribute today has generated such laissez-faire attitudes towards issues like this. You need to understand is this was the 1960s, and this was a major, major, major label. I don't really see how the hard work versus laziness argument you implied works here.. Good on him to expose an issue that and while presented rather crudely, DJ ATX made further light of it: Contract law. If you're in the position to move into music as a livelihood it's definitely worth the time to seek out counsel and ensure you've done your due diligence before distributing your music or better yet, producing it under a label. A few hundred bucks now might save you a lot later on, or better yet provide you better earnings. |
| Joselyn Supina 09.03.2012 | I don't feel like getting in a political argument on a DJ community
, but I believe you're ignorant to what the 99% movement is all about...bringing income inequality to the forefront. The problem wasn't going to college to get a job, it was finding one when you got out. The problem wasn't having a house, the problem was paying on it because it was purchased at exorbitant prices during an inflated housing market. The problem wasn't working at McDonalds, there were no McDonalds jobs. But it's ok, Obama is getting things on track, no thanks to Congress. It's ok though, he has the highest sector private job growth in years. He saved the auto industry. The economy and housing market is turning around. And we're shaping up to another 4 years with a competent president as opposed to some right-winged nut job...so all is good. |
| Teodoro Woolever 09.03.2012 | What this is telling me is that he went into the entertainment business without knowledge of knowing how to negotiate a contract. Got blinded by the promise of fame and fortune and got screwed in the process. Why would you enter into something where you are unaware or ill informed and then blame it on other people. I fucking hate all the excuses these 99%'ers give. I GOT SCREWED AND ITS YOUR FAULT!! Stupidity goes on. Be responsible for your own actions. Can't get a job? Gee wonder why. Me personally, I've been laid off 4 times since 2003. Only collected unemployment once for about a month! Had to evacuate due to hurricane Katrina. Never once did I go to FEMA. I relocated back to Dallas and found my ass a job. McDonald is not beneath me although I have been a VP for an investment firm. I have sold cars for a living to make ends me. I have worked as a teller. I live comfortably now, yet I also started a DJ business again and teach kung fu part time even though I don't need the cash. How these people say they can't find a job and "poor me" attitude is beyond me. If you can't be bothered by a $5 an hour job and be able to adjust your lifestyle, then Fuck OFF, quit yer bitchin'!! People blame the lack of money to go to college. Hey asshole, the military will pay for your college. They did mine. Don't like the military? Again, why blame others cause you don't have a college education. It's your fucking choice. If the opportunity is there and you don't make the sacrifice to seize it. It's your own damn fault. Lack of motivation, self pity and not taking responsibility for your short comings MAKES YOU A 99%'er. Don't fucking blame others Quit asking for handouts and entitlements!! |
| Margie Pavell 05.03.2012 | you have to remember that this was the 60s...i am sure he couldn't afford an attorney to disect a recording contract... i am sure the artist acted in good faith... i am also sure the record company knew exactly what it was doing... let's not paint it any other way... Did you forget about the CD price fixing class action lawsuit? |
| Natasha Seich 05.03.2012 | It is always sad to hear stories like this. But unfortunately (even if he didn't realise at the time) it is his own fault. In US and UK and most other 'western' countries, someone who created or performed or recorded OWNS their work by default, without the need for any paperwork. And they can claim money for their work with very little cost and simple paperwork. If someone else has taken income from his work this can ONLY happen if a signed agreement is made that he has given his rights away. If he was pressured, or didn't know what he was signing, then that's bad but still his fault. If nothing was signed then income may have been stolen from him, and it should be trivial to prove without the opposing party producing the document. During the process any costs can be claimed from the other side so it won't cost him anything. |
| Romelia Stankard 05.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
Lester Chambers |
| Era Roka 05.03.2012 | Wgrr |
| Sylvia Greener 05.03.2012 | OK... Poor news. |
| Leeanna Ayla 06.03.2012 | Who is that? |
| Joselyn Supina 06.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 06.03.2012 | And now the RIAA is trying to fuck over the entire world again with PIPA/ACTA/whatever they are calling the current internet ruining fuck everyone over legislation of the week now. I have zero sympathy for major labels or issue with people pirating from them (small labels and dance music I buy are a different story), the real criminals and thiefs are the major labels stealing everything they can from the artists and trying to fuck everyone over in their path. |
| Brunilda Kora 06.03.2012 | Bad, bad news... Poor bugger. |
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