Pioneer DJM-909 Vs. Pioneer DJM-T1 for Traktor I'm stuck between the two. With the T-1 i wouldnt need to buy a soundcard or an X1 but the 909 is just all around better.. or is it?? help me out guys.. this is to build up my setup.. which do i get??? |
Tameka Haux
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
Clipping is when you input is too more signal for the mixer. So basically a channel is too load and it distorts the sound. Clipping can disort sound all the way to blow speakers if you are not careful. On VU meters you can tell cause the LEDs are in the red. Hence why people calling it red lining it.
I re-call a DJ in Chicago called DJ redline. IMO its such a stupid name cause it just means I'll screw your gear
over!
oh ok. i just knew it as redlining. thanks for informing me tho. im so confused on which on to get now. im not planning on getting any gigs anytime soon since im just starting out in the DVS scene. So what would be a good option to have for my house setup? i just want a mixer thats heavy duty and wont break on me after awhile and something i can have fun with. |
Alla Bluemke
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by BaDaZ
I'm new at all this. Can you explain to me what "clipping" is?
Clipping is when you input is too more signal for the mixer. So basically a channel is too load and it distorts the sound. Clipping can disort sound all the way to blow speakers if you are not careful. On VU meters you can tell cause the LEDs are in the red. Hence why people calling it red lining it.
I re-call a DJ in Chicago called DJ redline. IMO its such a stupid name cause it just means I'll screw your gear
over! |
Tameka Haux
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by djkidmt
i have owned the DJM-t1 and found it to be a great all round mixer with the bonus ability to scratch. It is definitly not a "scratch" mixer because ot its lack of fader controls. no curcve adjust on the up-faders inhibits a ton of traditional scratch techniques. the actuall cross fader is more adjustable than you believe, and you can actually adjust the cut and curve digitally! the midi controls on the t1 are soooo nice to use every control is pretty intuitive and has a good feel. i also found that my djm-900 has better sound that the T1 but i dont know which is better than the 909. if you are a dj who mixes as much as scratches get the T1 for sure! If you scratch a ton and only occasionally mix on dvs then definetly get the 909 and a copy of scratchy seal. i would personally love to own a 909 but no midi without a controller is pretty limiting now a days.
have you had any problems with the T-1. Someone mentioned it had some issues. Do you know anything about that or experienced any problems? I definitely will be doing a lot of scratching and mixing with the DVS. I'm getting into doing more live mashups with the DVS systems but I definitely love beat juggling and all those lil tricks also. So T-1?? AAhhh im so confused again !!! lol |
Tameka Haux
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by manchild
Those are 2 great mixers. I have a 909 and I know you'll like it. Getting a 909 , NI audio interface, and x1 is a good versatile set-up for scratching and FX. The 909 doesnt have much headroom, you shouldnt be clipping anyways, but if you do happen to clip (even jus a little) it sounds terrible. Just a warning
I'm new at all this. Can you explain to me what "clipping" is? |
Tameka Haux
22.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
909 is just basically an all around better mixer. better effects, totally proven, literally one of the best on the market.
t1 is nice but there are issues with it. Plus sure the sound card is built in but what are you going to do carry your t1 to every gig? If the place already has a mixer you are out of luck. You may want to modular approach of a audio 6 to allow you to play anywhere easily.
Thank you. You made some great points. Ill go with the 909 |
Tameka Haux
22.03.2012 | I'm stuck between the two. With the T-1 i wouldnt need to buy a soundcard or an X1 but the 909 is just all around better.. or is it?? help me out guys.. this is to build up my setup.. which do i get??? |
Ruthanne Heiman
23.03.2012 | i did not have a single issue with my T1 and it was purchased used. its a quality mixer. having midi controls opens a ton of doors as far as mixing goes. Using a plain mixer is tight but takes more skill to achieve the same level of mix quality as far as loops, quantized effect, and samples. the sample decks on the t1 are sooo easy to use and i actually preferred them to my midi-fighter pros. |
Wei Lebeaux
23.03.2012 | @Guiltyblade:
Got a problem with the name Redline huh? I earned that shit you know! But then again, I also learned how to back off the damn VU meters, and I NEVER blew anything up. |
Tameka Haux
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
Clipping is when you input is too more signal for the mixer. So basically a channel is too load and it distorts the sound. Clipping can disort sound all the way to blow speakers if you are not careful. On VU meters you can tell cause the LEDs are in the red. Hence why people calling it red lining it.
I re-call a DJ in Chicago called DJ redline. IMO its such a stupid name cause it just means I'll screw your gear
over!
oh ok. i just knew it as redlining. thanks for informing me tho. im so confused on which on to get now. im not planning on getting any gigs anytime soon since im just starting out in the DVS scene. So what would be a good option to have for my house setup? i just want a mixer thats heavy duty and wont break on me after awhile and something i can have fun with. |
Alla Bluemke
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by BaDaZ
I'm new at all this. Can you explain to me what "clipping" is?
Clipping is when you input is too more signal for the mixer. So basically a channel is too load and it distorts the sound. Clipping can disort sound all the way to blow speakers if you are not careful. On VU meters you can tell cause the LEDs are in the red. Hence why people calling it red lining it.
I re-call a DJ in Chicago called DJ redline. IMO its such a stupid name cause it just means I'll screw your gear
over! |
Tameka Haux
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by djkidmt
i have owned the DJM-t1 and found it to be a great all round mixer with the bonus ability to scratch. It is definitly not a "scratch" mixer because ot its lack of fader controls. no curcve adjust on the up-faders inhibits a ton of traditional scratch techniques. the actuall cross fader is more adjustable than you believe, and you can actually adjust the cut and curve digitally! the midi controls on the t1 are soooo nice to use every control is pretty intuitive and has a good feel. i also found that my djm-900 has better sound that the T1 but i dont know which is better than the 909. if you are a dj who mixes as much as scratches get the T1 for sure! If you scratch a ton and only occasionally mix on dvs then definetly get the 909 and a copy of scratchy seal. i would personally love to own a 909 but no midi without a controller is pretty limiting now a days.
have you had any problems with the T-1. Someone mentioned it had some issues. Do you know anything about that or experienced any problems? I definitely will be doing a lot of scratching and mixing with the DVS. I'm getting into doing more live mashups with the DVS systems but I definitely love beat juggling and all those lil tricks also. So T-1?? AAhhh im so confused again !!! lol |
Tameka Haux
23.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by manchild
Those are 2 great mixers. I have a 909 and I know you'll like it. Getting a 909 , NI audio interface, and x1 is a good versatile set-up for scratching and FX. The 909 doesnt have much headroom, you shouldnt be clipping anyways, but if you do happen to clip (even jus a little) it sounds terrible. Just a warning
I'm new at all this. Can you explain to me what "clipping" is? |
Ruthanne Heiman
23.03.2012 | i have owned the DJM-t1 and found it to be a great all round mixer with the bonus ability to scratch. It is definitly not a "scratch" mixer because ot its lack of fader controls. no curcve adjust on the up-faders inhibits a ton of traditional scratch techniques. the actuall cross fader is more adjustable than you believe, and you can actually adjust the cut and curve digitally! the midi controls on the t1 are soooo nice to use every control is pretty intuitive and has a good feel. i also found that my djm-900 has better sound that the T1 but i dont know which is better than the 909. if you are a dj who mixes as much as scratches get the T1 for sure! If you scratch a ton and only occasionally mix on dvs then definetly get the 909 and a copy of scratchy seal. i would personally love to own a 909 but no midi without a controller is pretty limiting now a days. |
Addie Engbrecht
24.03.2012 | Those are 2 great mixers. I have a 909 and I know you'll like it. Getting a 909 , NI audio interface, and x1 is a good versatile set-up for scratching and FX. The 909 doesnt have much headroom, you shouldnt be clipping anyways, but if you do happen to clip (even jus a little) it sounds terrible. Just a warning |
Tameka Haux
22.03.2012 |
Originally Posted by guiltyblade
909 is just basically an all around better mixer. better effects, totally proven, literally one of the best on the market.
t1 is nice but there are issues with it. Plus sure the sound card is built in but what are you going to do carry your t1 to every gig? If the place already has a mixer you are out of luck. You may want to modular approach of a audio 6 to allow you to play anywhere easily.
Thank you. You made some great points. Ill go with the 909 |
Alla Bluemke
22.03.2012 | 909 is just basically an all around better mixer. better effects, totally proven, literally one of the best on the market.
t1 is nice but there are issues with it. Plus sure the sound card is built in but what are you going to do carry your t1 to every gig? If the place already has a mixer you are out of luck. You may want to modular approach of a audio 6 to allow you to play anywhere easily. |
