More Craigslist amateurs...

More Craigslist amateurs...
Posted on: 03.06.2012 by Romelia Stankard
Listed a pretty much new behringer eurolive b212d I had got as backup and never used on craigslist for $150.

Get a couple emails from this kid this morning telling me to call him. I call him and he says he is really interested and "wants to come take a look at it" which is normally a big red flag and I told him I woud send him so more pictures and to let me know if he was interested in buying it and we could work something out. He says "oh no no I'll bring cash of course I just want to take a look and test it out first."

Ok, whatever, fine- he sounds young and not sketchy so I say to come over and change my plans to meet him later. He comes over in to my apartment, I turn it on, he starts messing with it and then opens his mouth. "Yeah this looks nice and all but I can get one new for $160 (bullshit). I'll tell you what, I can give you $100 cash for it". (He proceeds to put a $100 bill in front of my face).

I just stare and laugh at this kid. I told him if he wanted to negotiate price he should have done it by email or over the phone or I wouldn't have wasted my time with him. He starts going on about how he likes to see stuff in person first and "it's rude to negotiate over the phone" and I just walk him out the door shaking my head.

I never try to lowball in person- that's just slimy- you agree on a price beforehand and buy it, and if you ask someone the price on the phone and then you say ok when I tell you I'm going to assume you understand that that's what you're paying before you take both of our time to meet.

Damn amateurs, do they really believe that shit will work?
Romelia Stankard
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by sss18734
I don't understand why people call me and then ask me what my asking price is. If they are calling me, they are clearly looking at the page, where all prices are listed at least twice, usually RIGHT NEXT TO THE PHONE NUMBER AND IN THE TITLE! Are people really that dumb? Or are they hoping I forgot what my price was?
That and every person who emails me just asking "is it still available?" when I write in bold that "if the listing is still up then it is still available", twice.

It's particularly annoying since a lot of scammers and spammers will ask that to fish for emails so I don't know if they are a spammer or just can't read.
Romelia Stankard
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by djlotus
I can't wait to see how this turns out.
sold, he tried to hustle me a little bit but I don't tolerate that.

"yeah I looked right before I left and saw it for $163 on zzsounds or something like that, you can't give me a deal or anything?" I tell him I checked and lowest I saw was $229 and my price was firm and he bought it and but of course he asks "got any extra cables or stands or anything you can throw in?" Nope, just what it came with. I'm so sick of dealing with people for this speaker I'm not going to even throw in a damn cable even though I have a ton of them, he's lucky I even knocked $10 off my price.
Len Lukawski
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Haha please tell me you emailed him...
I might offer him $500 for just the knobs so I can replace the ones the dog ate on mine.
Romelia Stankard
03.06.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
I'm not sure I agree. It works both ways. There is a assload of dodgy sellers on craigslist and if I was buying a speaker from you I'd sure as shit want to make it was in good condition and working. If the speaker was in shitter condition than stated in the ad then I'd offer less money, its how selling second hand goods works IMO. Not straight up planned lowballing or anything, just fair negotiation.
Right- but that's not what happened here. He had pictures and never said anything when I told him the price on the phone. The speaker was completely flawless and he purposely came in with less money believeing he could tempt me with a $100 bill and feed me some bs about price. I go out of my way to be thorough and honest and make sure buyers know exactly what they are getting before meeting up.

I don't believe there is anything wrong with offering a little less if something is messed up and no one caught it until the sale but I've never had that happen and usually it is these planned lowballers who believe that if they put $80 in front of you and say it's all they've got when you agreed on $100 you will take it. I've had that happen and when I told them to get lost they pulled a $20 out of their other pocket and paid.

But you're right, both parties should be honest and I've dealt with some shady sellers too that I have walked out on who weren't honest and up front. I try to screen for both but I don't negotiate with assholes in person.
Romelia Stankard
03.06.2012
Listed a pretty much new behringer eurolive b212d I had got as backup and never used on craigslist for $150.

Get a couple emails from this kid this morning telling me to call him. I call him and he says he is really interested and "wants to come take a look at it" which is normally a big red flag and I told him I woud send him so more pictures and to let me know if he was interested in buying it and we could work something out. He says "oh no no I'll bring cash of course I just want to take a look and test it out first."

Ok, whatever, fine- he sounds young and not sketchy so I say to come over and change my plans to meet him later. He comes over in to my apartment, I turn it on, he starts messing with it and then opens his mouth. "Yeah this looks nice and all but I can get one new for $160 (bullshit). I'll tell you what, I can give you $100 cash for it". (He proceeds to put a $100 bill in front of my face).

I just stare and laugh at this kid. I told him if he wanted to negotiate price he should have done it by email or over the phone or I wouldn't have wasted my time with him. He starts going on about how he likes to see stuff in person first and "it's rude to negotiate over the phone" and I just walk him out the door shaking my head.

I never try to lowball in person- that's just slimy- you agree on a price beforehand and buy it, and if you ask someone the price on the phone and then you say ok when I tell you I'm going to assume you understand that that's what you're paying before you take both of our time to meet.

Damn amateurs, do they really believe that shit will work?
Joesph Kasian
14.06.2012
This topic is hilarious...I can't believe how people are trying to pull one whilst standing in your house haha!

Great that you stood firm dude, I bet they try stuff like all the time and people buckle under the pressure and regret it - good job.
Romelia Stankard
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by sss18734
I don't understand why people call me and then ask me what my asking price is. If they are calling me, they are clearly looking at the page, where all prices are listed at least twice, usually RIGHT NEXT TO THE PHONE NUMBER AND IN THE TITLE! Are people really that dumb? Or are they hoping I forgot what my price was?
That and every person who emails me just asking "is it still available?" when I write in bold that "if the listing is still up then it is still available", twice.

It's particularly annoying since a lot of scammers and spammers will ask that to fish for emails so I don't know if they are a spammer or just can't read.
Romelia Stankard
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by djlotus
I can't wait to see how this turns out.
sold, he tried to hustle me a little bit but I don't tolerate that.

"yeah I looked right before I left and saw it for $163 on zzsounds or something like that, you can't give me a deal or anything?" I tell him I checked and lowest I saw was $229 and my price was firm and he bought it and but of course he asks "got any extra cables or stands or anything you can throw in?" Nope, just what it came with. I'm so sick of dealing with people for this speaker I'm not going to even throw in a damn cable even though I have a ton of them, he's lucky I even knocked $10 off my price.
Cristian Carmona
13.06.2012
ill give you 160 for the speakers, meet you 1/2 ways, deal?
Erica Charvet
13.06.2012
I don't understand why people call me and then ask me what my asking price is. If they are calling me, they are clearly looking at the page, where all prices are listed at least twice, usually RIGHT NEXT TO THE PHONE NUMBER AND IN THE TITLE! Are people really that dumb? Or are they hoping I forgot what my price was?
Ira Alsadi
13.06.2012
I can't wait to see how this turns out.
Romelia Stankard
13.06.2012
haha please post the conversation


I love people who are bad at negotiating on craigslist and when I catch them lying through their teeth. It's all good fun

I just had a guy call me about this speaker since he wanted it and was asking about price. He's asking me questions about it then says "oh yeah well we picked up a behringer powered 12" speaker from guitar center for $159 over memorial day." (sure you did buddy). I tell him the lowest I'll take is $150 or I'm not interested in selling it for less. He then asks me questions about if it has EQ knobs on the back and then asks me how it sounds. I respond "well you know it sounds good you bought one the other day." He says "oh yeah yeah of course." lol.

He is coming by now we'll see if this one tries to lowball me too.
Len Lukawski
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Haha please tell me you emailed him...
I might offer him $500 for just the knobs so I can replace the ones the dog ate on mine.
Romelia Stankard
13.06.2012
Haha please tell me you emailed him...
Len Lukawski
13.06.2012
How about this for an absolute steal!

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/msg/3070797185.html

"I am selling a brand new native Instruments Maschine. I comes with everything you need to get started. I am selling it for $600.00 or trade for a Akai MPC 2500"

I can only assume that given the language and the absurd price that this chap genuinely accompanies the product and likely plays it for you at your leisure.
Johnetta Olewine
03.06.2012
yeah for sure. It does sound like he planned to low ball all along. It just comes with the territory though with craigslist. The perverts and wierdos that keep the craigslist personals section going is testament to that...
Romelia Stankard
03.06.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
I'm not sure I agree. It works both ways. There is a assload of dodgy sellers on craigslist and if I was buying a speaker from you I'd sure as shit want to make it was in good condition and working. If the speaker was in shitter condition than stated in the ad then I'd offer less money, its how selling second hand goods works IMO. Not straight up planned lowballing or anything, just fair negotiation.
Right- but that's not what happened here. He had pictures and never said anything when I told him the price on the phone. The speaker was completely flawless and he purposely came in with less money believeing he could tempt me with a $100 bill and feed me some bs about price. I go out of my way to be thorough and honest and make sure buyers know exactly what they are getting before meeting up.

I don't believe there is anything wrong with offering a little less if something is messed up and no one caught it until the sale but I've never had that happen and usually it is these planned lowballers who believe that if they put $80 in front of you and say it's all they've got when you agreed on $100 you will take it. I've had that happen and when I told them to get lost they pulled a $20 out of their other pocket and paid.

But you're right, both parties should be honest and I've dealt with some shady sellers too that I have walked out on who weren't honest and up front. I try to screen for both but I don't negotiate with assholes in person.
Johnetta Olewine
03.06.2012
I'm not sure I agree. It works both ways. There is a assload of dodgy sellers on craigslist and if I was buying a speaker from you I'd sure as shit want to make it was in good condition and working. If the speaker was in shitter condition than stated in the ad then I'd offer less money, its how selling second hand goods works IMO. Not straight up planned lowballing or anything, just fair negotiation.
Erica Charvet
03.06.2012
Yeah I've had that happen a few times. If they sound like tirekickers, I always let them know that they are of course welcome to test it, but they have to commit to buying it for my asking price upon testing.

I'm not a retailer and am not going to waste my time as such.

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