Just a little FU to NI. I love Maschine. When I was on Traktor, I liked it just fine.
But, seriously, Service Center is the worst Piece of Shit anit-piracy software I've ever seen, and it doesn't even work. There is not a damn thing you make that isn't cracked on [that site we all know about but can't mention], and their installers are way less of a pain in the ass. And the way you distribute installers is a joke.
Thank you for making me, a paying customer, seriously question the point of bothering to install a legal copy of Maschine because I decided to format my drive when I upgraded to Mountain Lion.
Installing Pro Tools, on the other hand, was simple. I just did it, with an installer they give away for free in an easy to find part of their website, plugged in my iLok, and it works. No muss, no fuss. No headaches. No screaming.
Just start building dongles into your hardware. How often to people really use Maschine or Traktor or any of your other crap without any NI hardware plugged in?
It's 2012. Stealing software happens. Deal with it. Ignore it. Whatever. But don't punish legitimate users because you believe your shit's worth it.
Every time I start up Service Center or have to install your software, I believe about ditching the lot and moving to something else. The next time it happens, I won't be coming back.
And unfortunately for you, your website is so damn slow, I've got plenty of time to believe about alternatives before I actually waste the disk space.
</rant> |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Romelia Stankard
25.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration……without the hardware, it's just a slower, more limited Live that happens to come with a lot of samples.
Frankly, if I were in their place, I'd seriously consider giving away the Maschine software and just charging for sample libraries and hardware, probably at the same prices they're charging now.
I've come to appreciate machine even from a software only perspective and never attempt to use maschine solely- the huge sample library and organization plus the expansions is great. I've started just dragging and dropping patterns in maschine to audio clips in live and it is really quick. Nothing in live really compares to the speed of maschine software and being able to sort drum sounds by type and easily scroll through a list of 100 ride cymbal samples auditioning each one to change out a slot then just dragging a pattern to audio- plus saving patterns and swapping out kits, and when you find something just drag and drop the pattern to audio in your daw. It's nice having the hardware to do some of it but even without it it is useful. |
Nedra Fresneda
25.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Forgive me, but what exactly do you do with Traktor without hardware of some kind plugged in?
I move a lot and don't carry my stuff everywhere with me (not saying I'm globetrotting) so: track preparation, mapping drafting, trying out stuff together, etc. I won't record or do a gig without hardware but that doesn't mean they should limit the hell out of a piece of software when nothing is plugged.
My only NI hardware atm is Maschine and I doubt if some kind of lock was implemented that would bypass it, it's like expecting scratch functionality from a KA6 box. |
Cole Maroto
25.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Forgive me, but what exactly do you do with Traktor without hardware of some kind plugged in?
I also do a lot of work in traktor without hardware plugged in. I prep tracks while its slow at work and when I'm lounging on my couch at home. I occasionally work on ideas in maschine without the hardware plugged in as well. |
Dorie Scelzo
24.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I really don't understand why anyone would want more DRM or to be limited to hardware dongles. If you don't like service center, fine-it would be nice if they got rid of it but hardware dongles are even more backwards.
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
It is nice to be able to use software with no hardware and I enjoyed being able to use maschine standalone on the plane today and get some ideas down.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration……without the hardware, it's just a slower, more limited Live that happens to come with a lot of samples.
Frankly, if I were in their place, I'd seriously consider giving away the Maschine software and just charging for sample libraries and hardware, probably at the same prices they're charging now.
Originally Posted by padi_04
TBH, if I had to keep gear hooked just to use Traktor or Maschine i'd probably sell them both. I agree that service center is a bit of a hit or miss but IMO moving to iLok or something similar isn't the solution.
Forgive me, but what exactly do you do with Traktor without hardware of some kind plugged in?
Originally Posted by sarasin
I never use Service Center. I just Download the updates.
Needed to reinstall the other day when I got my new MacBook, but I installed the base off the CD and then the update.
Never use Service Center....
Do you have to with Maschine?
You used Service Center to put in your license keys……unless, of course, your software is stolen and it doesn't take license keys. |
Ervin Calvery
23.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
I never use Service Center. I just Download the updates.
Needed to reinstall the other day when I got my new MacBook, but I installed the base off the CD and then the update.
Never use Service Center....
Do you have to with Maschine?
I believe that people take issue with service center registration. ALL NI products have to be registered through service center. |
Dorie Scelzo
22.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by botstein
It's also nice to be able to expand beyond just the 8 kits (which granted is a lot). It would be a sad day if it were suddenly a 1-1 deal.
There's no reason to believe it'd be 1:1……except that NI doesn't like doing things well for users. |
Johnetta Olewine
21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by botstein
Nah - part of the strength of Maschine is the ability to run multiple/many instances of the VST. When I play out, I run at least three per Maschine (hardware). Sort of the way it used to be reassuring to have more than one MPC (the standalone ones of days past, not the Ren of course (oh gawd)), it's really easy and a nice workflow to be able to keep playing on one and load up a new instance/kit/project/template on one unit while continuing to play on the other. It's also nice to be able to expand beyond just the 8 kits (which granted is a lot). It would be a sad day if it were suddenly a 1-1 deal.
Sure.
Thank you for teaching me the word 'gormless'!
I doesn't necessarily have to limit the maschine software to a 1:1 ratio, just that maschine hardware is connected to enable the first initiation of the software. With multiple instances allowable after the hardware/software initiation.
The term gormless is a perfect description of NI customer support workers. |
Ervin Calvery
21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Maschine hardware needs to be connected for maschine software to run.
Nah - part of the strength of Maschine is the ability to run multiple/many instances of the VST. When I play out, I run at least three per Maschine (hardware). Sort of the way it used to be reassuring to have more than one MPC (the standalone ones of days past, not the Ren of course (oh gawd)), it's really easy and a nice workflow to be able to keep playing on one and load up a new instance/kit/project/template on one unit while continuing to play on the other. It's also nice to be able to expand beyond just the 8 kits (which granted is a lot). It would be a sad day if it were suddenly a 1-1 deal.
Originally Posted by oliosky
Audio 6/8/10 or TS certified mixer for traktor scratch to run.
Sure.
Originally Posted by oliosky
Thats it. Fucking simple. I deplore having to contact some gormless fucking NI goon and wait for a week for him to get his hand off his dick to transfer the serial number that I OWN!
Thank you for teaching me the word 'gormless'! |
Lilliana Perris
26.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration |
Romelia Stankard
25.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration……without the hardware, it's just a slower, more limited Live that happens to come with a lot of samples.
Frankly, if I were in their place, I'd seriously consider giving away the Maschine software and just charging for sample libraries and hardware, probably at the same prices they're charging now.
I've come to appreciate machine even from a software only perspective and never attempt to use maschine solely- the huge sample library and organization plus the expansions is great. I've started just dragging and dropping patterns in maschine to audio clips in live and it is really quick. Nothing in live really compares to the speed of maschine software and being able to sort drum sounds by type and easily scroll through a list of 100 ride cymbal samples auditioning each one to change out a slot then just dragging a pattern to audio- plus saving patterns and swapping out kits, and when you find something just drag and drop the pattern to audio in your daw. It's nice having the hardware to do some of it but even without it it is useful. |
Nedra Fresneda
25.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Forgive me, but what exactly do you do with Traktor without hardware of some kind plugged in?
I move a lot and don't carry my stuff everywhere with me (not saying I'm globetrotting) so: track preparation, mapping drafting, trying out stuff together, etc. I won't record or do a gig without hardware but that doesn't mean they should limit the hell out of a piece of software when nothing is plugged.
My only NI hardware atm is Maschine and I doubt if some kind of lock was implemented that would bypass it, it's like expecting scratch functionality from a KA6 box. |
Cole Maroto
25.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
Forgive me, but what exactly do you do with Traktor without hardware of some kind plugged in?
I also do a lot of work in traktor without hardware plugged in. I prep tracks while its slow at work and when I'm lounging on my couch at home. I occasionally work on ideas in maschine without the hardware plugged in as well. |
Dorie Scelzo
24.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
I really don't understand why anyone would want more DRM or to be limited to hardware dongles. If you don't like service center, fine-it would be nice if they got rid of it but hardware dongles are even more backwards.
Frankly, I just can't figure out why I have to start another buggy, slow application (which seems to want updates at least as often as everything else) just to input my license keys as opposed to doing it during the install, when it makes sense.
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
It is nice to be able to use software with no hardware and I enjoyed being able to use maschine standalone on the plane today and get some ideas down.
Okay. That's a valid point. But would you have been any worse off just drawing notes in Ableton instead? Or Finale. Or any of a dozen other things that will export MIDI?
Maschine's only real selling point is its hardware integration……without the hardware, it's just a slower, more limited Live that happens to come with a lot of samples.
Frankly, if I were in their place, I'd seriously consider giving away the Maschine software and just charging for sample libraries and hardware, probably at the same prices they're charging now.
Originally Posted by padi_04
TBH, if I had to keep gear hooked just to use Traktor or Maschine i'd probably sell them both. I agree that service center is a bit of a hit or miss but IMO moving to iLok or something similar isn't the solution.
Forgive me, but what exactly do you do with Traktor without hardware of some kind plugged in?
Originally Posted by sarasin
I never use Service Center. I just Download the updates.
Needed to reinstall the other day when I got my new MacBook, but I installed the base off the CD and then the update.
Never use Service Center....
Do you have to with Maschine?
You used Service Center to put in your license keys……unless, of course, your software is stolen and it doesn't take license keys. |
Ervin Calvery
23.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by sarasin
I never use Service Center. I just Download the updates.
Needed to reinstall the other day when I got my new MacBook, but I installed the base off the CD and then the update.
Never use Service Center....
Do you have to with Maschine?
I believe that people take issue with service center registration. ALL NI products have to be registered through service center. |
Lilliana Perris
23.11.2012 | I never use Service Center. I just Download the updates.
Needed to reinstall the other day when I got my new MacBook, but I installed the base off the CD and then the update.
Never use Service Center....
Do you have to with Maschine? |
Jonas Hanway
23.11.2012 | My biggest FU to Traktor at the moment is HID for CDJ 850's.
Would make DJ'ing ideal for me! |
Nedra Fresneda
22.11.2012 | TBH, if I had to keep gear hooked just to use Traktor or Maschine i'd probably sell them both. I agree that service center is a bit of a hit or miss but IMO moving to iLok or something similar isn't the solution. |
Romelia Stankard
22.11.2012 | I really don't understand why anyone would want more DRM or to be limited to hardware dongles. If you don't like service center, fine-it would be nice if they got rid of it but hardware dongles are even more backwards.
It is nice to be able to use software with no hardware and I enjoyed being able to use maschine standalone on the plane today and get some ideas down. |
Dorie Scelzo
22.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by botstein
It's also nice to be able to expand beyond just the 8 kits (which granted is a lot). It would be a sad day if it were suddenly a 1-1 deal.
There's no reason to believe it'd be 1:1……except that NI doesn't like doing things well for users. |
Johnetta Olewine
21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by botstein
Nah - part of the strength of Maschine is the ability to run multiple/many instances of the VST. When I play out, I run at least three per Maschine (hardware). Sort of the way it used to be reassuring to have more than one MPC (the standalone ones of days past, not the Ren of course (oh gawd)), it's really easy and a nice workflow to be able to keep playing on one and load up a new instance/kit/project/template on one unit while continuing to play on the other. It's also nice to be able to expand beyond just the 8 kits (which granted is a lot). It would be a sad day if it were suddenly a 1-1 deal.
Sure.
Thank you for teaching me the word 'gormless'!
I doesn't necessarily have to limit the maschine software to a 1:1 ratio, just that maschine hardware is connected to enable the first initiation of the software. With multiple instances allowable after the hardware/software initiation.
The term gormless is a perfect description of NI customer support workers. |
Ervin Calvery
21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Maschine hardware needs to be connected for maschine software to run.
Nah - part of the strength of Maschine is the ability to run multiple/many instances of the VST. When I play out, I run at least three per Maschine (hardware). Sort of the way it used to be reassuring to have more than one MPC (the standalone ones of days past, not the Ren of course (oh gawd)), it's really easy and a nice workflow to be able to keep playing on one and load up a new instance/kit/project/template on one unit while continuing to play on the other. It's also nice to be able to expand beyond just the 8 kits (which granted is a lot). It would be a sad day if it were suddenly a 1-1 deal.
Originally Posted by oliosky
Audio 6/8/10 or TS certified mixer for traktor scratch to run.
Sure.
Originally Posted by oliosky
Thats it. Fucking simple. I deplore having to contact some gormless fucking NI goon and wait for a week for him to get his hand off his dick to transfer the serial number that I OWN!
Thank you for teaching me the word 'gormless'! |
Johnetta Olewine
21.11.2012 | I'm all for the hardware lock.
Maschine hardware needs to be connected for maschine software to run.
Audio 6/8/10 or TS certified mixer for traktor scratch to run.
Thats it. Fucking simple. I deplore having to contact some gormless fucking NI goon and wait for a week for him to get his hand off his dick to transfer the serial number that I OWN! |
Tesha Freudenstein
21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
That's why I suggested NI build dongles into their hardware. Yes, there are people using a lot of 3rd party controllers……but how many are using all of their USB ports (and not a hub) without some piece of NI hardware?
The way Serato does it is far more sane. Something like an iLok or an Ignition Key makes a great alternative if you don't use NI hardware. But even then, the worst case scenario is someone who wants to use multiple 3rd party controllers……like one of the reloop things + some number of those little A&H K2s.
true. serato provides an installer for the software for free but unless you have a rane interface you can't do jack shit with it. also saves the hassle with de-registering your stuff if you're trying to sell it. |
Dorie Scelzo
21.11.2012 | That's why I suggested NI build dongles into their hardware. Yes, there are people using a lot of 3rd party controllers……but how many are using all of their USB ports (and not a hub) without some piece of NI hardware?
The way Serato does it is far more sane. Something like an iLok or an Ignition Key makes a great alternative if you don't use NI hardware. But even then, the worst case scenario is someone who wants to use multiple 3rd party controllers……like one of the reloop things + some number of those little A&H K2s.
But, still, Serato just gives out what I presume are private keys to 3rd party controller makers for Itch and DJ. Yeah, it's cool that you can use Traktor without a controller or an audio interface………but it's not necessary. |
Romelia Stankard
22.11.2012 | NI Service Center sucks, but so does iLok- seriously. That's one way to guarantee I will never buy a piece of software. The only reason I bought any Waves stuff was because they finally ditched iLok. iLok especially sucks for a gigging DJ or producer- most laptops only have 2-3 USB ports- and if you are on a mac most likely 2, do you really want to use a usb hub just to plug in an iLok with a soundcard and controller? Screw that.
And like it or not Service Center does work pretty decently to stop piracy- yeah there are lots of cracked NI software releases out there but if you have ever tried to actually use any they are all crap and most will cause fatal errors and crash eventually or are severely gimped from the start and won't give you a complete installation. |
Ervin Calvery
21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
The iLok comes with Pro Tools if you buy it in a box. I bought it separate because it was the same price and I hate boxes.
Also, iLok's customer service is just plain faster. Transferring a license to a new iLok does take buying a new iLok, but it's also pretty painless compared to transferring NI licenses. And if it's actually your bread & butter (like…not a hobby), they offer zero down time (ZDT), which gives you temporarly licenses at the drop of a hat. Based on my experience with Avid customer service, I wouldn't expect it to take more than the 14 days iLok gives you to get a new license key.
The cost of ZDT plus having another one around is easily worth the cost if it's actually how you make your money.
I myself have ZDT, but it is very expensive given that that iLoks, etc, don't exist for any good reason. The fact that it costs just to speak to an Avid customer service person is abhorrent. Transferring an NI license is free.
Originally Posted by mostapha
Franky, if I were a working/touring DJ who used software as the core of my rig, I'd much rather keep my iLok on my keys or attached to my passport wallet and have the option of just buying a new laptop a few hours before a show, restoring my music and configs from an online backup, and not worrying about whether or not NI's customer support is awake and in the mood to be helpful.
I believe that the bottom line anyone who is relying on software needs to have multiple computers. This is what I do.
There are solutions that are better and worse- Ableton AG has done a very smart thing with their free, 30-day, full-version trials. If someone were to find their computer (and their other computer, and their other-other-computer) failing they could buy or borrow a computer with an internet connection and be held over for a month. They could also be Adobe (the horror - the horror). |
Dorie Scelzo
21.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by botstein
How is using an iLok better? A lost or stolen or broken iLok is a huge, huge pain in the ass. I also hate the idea that I need a $50 USB accessory for anything, let alone using Pro Tools ($700) on an rMBP ($4k).
The iLok comes with Pro Tools if you buy it in a box. I bought it separate because it was the same price and I hate boxes.
Also, iLok's customer service is just plain faster. Transferring a license to a new iLok does take buying a new iLok, but it's also pretty painless compared to transferring NI licenses. And if it's actually your bread & butter (like…not a hobby), they offer zero down time (ZDT), which gives you temporarly licenses at the drop of a hat. Based on my experience with Avid customer service, I wouldn't expect it to take more than the 14 days iLok gives you to get a new license key.
The cost of ZDT plus having another one around is easily worth the cost if it's actually how you make your money.
Franky, if I were a working/touring DJ who used software as the core of my rig, I'd much rather keep my iLok on my keys or attached to my passport wallet and have the option of just buying a new laptop a few hours before a show, restoring my music and configs from an online backup, and not worrying about whether or not NI's customer support is awake and in the mood to be helpful.
Originally Posted by dubyou
Not only is downloading a pain, but updating to traktor 2.6 took me 7 days and 3 emails with Native Instruments! I, a PAYING customer, did not have the update availible in service center, had to delete all of my Native Instruments software off of my computer (Including Maschine) and re download ALL of the files from the slow slow site (as you mentioned) in order to get it to work out.
Amen. When I sold my Traktor license, it was so much of a headache, I almost told the guy to use a crack until I got NI to take their heads out of their asses. It took like a week. |
Dick Korus
20.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by mostapha
I love Maschine. When I was on Traktor, I liked it just fine.
But, seriously, Service Center is the worst Piece of Shit anit-piracy software I've ever seen, and it doesn't even work. There is not a damn thing you make that isn't cracked on [that site we all know about but can't mention], and their installers are way less of a pain in the ass. And the way you distribute installers is a joke.
Thank you for making me, a paying customer, seriously question the point of bothering to install a legal copy of Maschine because I decided to format my drive when I upgraded to Mountain Lion.
Installing Pro Tools, on the other hand, was simple. I just did it, with an installer they give away for free in an easy to find part of their website, plugged in my iLok, and it works. No muss, no fuss. No headaches. No screaming.
Just start building dongles into your hardware. How often to people really use Maschine or Traktor or any of your other crap without any NI hardware plugged in?
It's 2012. Stealing software happens. Deal with it. Ignore it. Whatever. But don't punish legitimate users because you believe your shit's worth it.
Every time I start up Service Center or have to install your software, I believe about ditching the lot and moving to something else. The next time it happens, I won't be coming back.
And unfortunately for you, your website is so damn slow, I've got plenty of time to believe about alternatives before I actually waste the disk space.
</rant>
Not only is downloading a pain, but updating to traktor 2.6 took me 7 days and 3 emails with Native Instruments! I, a PAYING customer, did not have the update availible in service center, had to delete all of my Native Instruments software off of my computer (Including Maschine) and re download ALL of the files from the slow slow site (as you mentioned) in order to get it to work out. |
Ervin Calvery
20.11.2012 | How is using an iLok better? A lost or stolen or broken iLok is a huge, huge pain in the ass. I also hate the idea that I need a $50 USB accessory for anything, let alone using Pro Tools ($700) on an rMBP ($4k).
I will concede that I don't like that NI will tell you that downloading the installers from their site is more reliable than their proprietary DRM software. |
Lina Rawie
20.11.2012 | Amen! I agree 100% and have said the same thing on other sites. Anyone that wants to pirate their software can do so with little effort, so why make things more awkward for the people that do pay? |
