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The Audiophile Thread Posted on: 08.06.2013 by Dannie Dimora As suggested by a couple of members, instead of derailing threads all over the community
, let's have a dedicated thread to discuss all of the esoteric high-end beliefs and data we have about sound.From hardware, to software, to sound science itself | |
| Dannie Dimora 09.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Dannie Dimora 09.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
The video you linked is a very good watch. BUT while i honestly cannot tell the difference between 24/96 and 24/192, i CAN hear the difference and i can identify two sources, one 16/44.1 and the other either 24/96 or 24/192) in a blind ABX test. If i remember correctly, the guy in the video talks about a "vinyl demagnetizer" at some point. It actually makes sense as a device. TT needles are subsceptible to magnetic fields, because they are metallic. The paint that is used in vinyl contains iron, making it ferromagnetic too. Overtime a record can accumulate a little magnetic charge that is uneven accross the record itself, at some points repulsing, at some points attracting the needle. While i have never heard the effects a vinyl demagnetizer has, and i am sure they are minute, i do believe an extremely good friend (who by the way is one of the most prestigious manufacturers of turntables and tonearms in the world) who conducted an abx test with 2 records, sometimes faking to have demagnetized them, sometimes doing it, and almost everyone in the room agreed that there was a difference. They weren't able to quantify it tho, so no record sounded "better" than its magnetized counterpart, but they got the difference right 100% of the time. You a 'slut too? |
| Romelia Stankard 09.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
No blind ABX testing, just subjective nonsense and confirmation bias. 24/192 makes zero sense as a format and the human ear cant even hear the difference, and it is actually an inferior fidelity to 16/44. read here for some actual science: http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html It's easy to convince yourself you "hear the difference" between 24/96, 24/192, and all those other formats when you look at the file label. I would hardly call that a test. audiophiles and really everyone who deals with sound should watch this: funny side note- Ethan Winer actually got permabanned from gearslutz after that video came out since he pissed the site owner off and rustled so many people's jimmies over there. |
| Dannie Dimora 08.06.2013 | As suggested by a couple of members, instead of derailing threads all over the community
, let's have a dedicated thread to discuss all of the esoteric high-end beliefs and data we have about sound. From hardware, to software, to sound science itself |
| Dannie Dimora 09.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
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| Romelia Stankard 09.06.2013 | Yeah I am on gearslutz but I don't really browse or post there much anymore unless it's for something really specific- way too many absolute morons and trolls to make it really worthwhile. |
| Dannie Dimora 09.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
The video you linked is a very good watch. BUT while i honestly cannot tell the difference between 24/96 and 24/192, i CAN hear the difference and i can identify two sources, one 16/44.1 and the other either 24/96 or 24/192) in a blind ABX test. If i remember correctly, the guy in the video talks about a "vinyl demagnetizer" at some point. It actually makes sense as a device. TT needles are subsceptible to magnetic fields, because they are metallic. The paint that is used in vinyl contains iron, making it ferromagnetic too. Overtime a record can accumulate a little magnetic charge that is uneven accross the record itself, at some points repulsing, at some points attracting the needle. While i have never heard the effects a vinyl demagnetizer has, and i am sure they are minute, i do believe an extremely good friend (who by the way is one of the most prestigious manufacturers of turntables and tonearms in the world) who conducted an abx test with 2 records, sometimes faking to have demagnetized them, sometimes doing it, and almost everyone in the room agreed that there was a difference. They weren't able to quantify it tho, so no record sounded "better" than its magnetized counterpart, but they got the difference right 100% of the time. You a 'slut too? |
| Romelia Stankard 09.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Polygon
No blind ABX testing, just subjective nonsense and confirmation bias. 24/192 makes zero sense as a format and the human ear cant even hear the difference, and it is actually an inferior fidelity to 16/44. read here for some actual science: http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html It's easy to convince yourself you "hear the difference" between 24/96, 24/192, and all those other formats when you look at the file label. I would hardly call that a test. audiophiles and really everyone who deals with sound should watch this: funny side note- Ethan Winer actually got permabanned from gearslutz after that video came out since he pissed the site owner off and rustled so many people's jimmies over there. |
| Kristofer Krauel 09.06.2013 | http://community
.djranking
s.com/showthr...126#post474126 Decent discussion on mp3 vs wav. the page i've linked actually has a link to a blind test that was set up by community member Mostapha. Long story short..... you cant tell the difference. |
| Dannie Dimora 08.06.2013 | I'll start by linking a test between 16/44.1 and 24/196 http://www.audiostream.com/content/d...x-dsd-128x-dsd |
| Dannie Dimora 08.06.2013 | (this post is intentionally left blank) |
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