Serato DEMO ? I have heard a lot of DJ's on here stating "test out the free and/or lite versions of each DJ software and figure out which one is best for you personally."
Great advice. And I always pass that on to beginners.
I cannot find a FREE and/or LITE version of Serato to test out?
What's the deal here?
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Nancey Inderlied
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by johney
A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing?
lol m8 seriously
what you described as A-B mixing isn't even mixing
U wot m8? A->AA->B->A->BB+AA->B, with the beatmasher and lots of effects chains for transitions. Get with the times m8, its all about sick mashups now. Look out for my mad drop of Levels cut with Animal Rights I did with just my mouse, I just need to wait for my allowance to upgrade from my crack of TSP so I can record it.
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
How does this even make any sense..?
With the Traktor Demo you can load a few tracks. Set cue points, learn to do grids, loops. You can create playlists and you can physically DJ using hot keys. How is that remotely comparable to iTunes..?
I can't comprehend what the point of doing any of that is without any hardware. Unless you plan on standing over your laptop, clicking and dragging furiously like a Starcraft player while running a set, there really isn't any point to having a hardwareless "demo" of software without an automix script. |
Augustine Mitzen
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Uninformed post is uninformed.
A-B mixing is not the same thing as A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing.
A-B mixing is waiting for the outro of Track A to bring in Track B. It's pointless and dated. Anyway, use the other thread for that sort of trolling kthx.
A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing?
lol m8 seriously
what you described as A-B mixing isn't even mixing |
Doreen Schurle
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Thanks for the heads up sweetheart.
You're welcome. I'm always happy to educate the ignorant. |
Johnetta Olewine
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Uninformed post is uninformed.
A-B mixing is not the same thing as A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing.
A-B mixing is waiting for the outro of Track A to bring in Track B. It's pointless and dated. Anyway, use the other thread for that sort of trolling kthx.
Thanks for the heads up sweetheart. |
Doreen Schurle
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Fucking hell. Is mashup now the adopted term for mixing 2 songs together for more than 30 seconds?
News flash noobs. Your mad "mashups" are just the same as the A-B mixing you retards have been slating.
Uninformed post is uninformed.
A-B mixing is not the same thing as A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing.
A-B mixing is waiting for the outro of Track A to bring in Track B. It's pointless and dated. Anyway, use the other thread for that sort of trolling kthx. |
Kristofer Krauel
07.04.2013 | WTF!! So a-->b mixing is literally playing A and letting it run out then playing B and so on?!?! Who does that??!! I'm so fused!! A-->B mixing to me is play A then beatmatch B and play B over A until A finishes then play only B and repeat.
Are you saying that A-->B mixing involves no beatmatching at all? |
Ashanti Andreacchio
07.04.2013 | I don't understand anything about how Serato are believeing. Demo with only one deck. Full version you need to disconnect you controller to analizze new tracks,
My thoughts on the Demo with only one track is like test driving a car where only gerar is working. You have everything infront of you but you can only drive in revers.
I have the DDJ SX and realy tried to like Serato DJ but it just sucks so badly. |
Nancey Inderlied
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by johney
A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing?
lol m8 seriously
what you described as A-B mixing isn't even mixing
U wot m8? A->AA->B->A->BB+AA->B, with the beatmasher and lots of effects chains for transitions. Get with the times m8, its all about sick mashups now. Look out for my mad drop of Levels cut with Animal Rights I did with just my mouse, I just need to wait for my allowance to upgrade from my crack of TSP so I can record it.
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
How does this even make any sense..?
With the Traktor Demo you can load a few tracks. Set cue points, learn to do grids, loops. You can create playlists and you can physically DJ using hot keys. How is that remotely comparable to iTunes..?
I can't comprehend what the point of doing any of that is without any hardware. Unless you plan on standing over your laptop, clicking and dragging furiously like a Starcraft player while running a set, there really isn't any point to having a hardwareless "demo" of software without an automix script. |
Augustine Mitzen
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Uninformed post is uninformed.
A-B mixing is not the same thing as A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing.
A-B mixing is waiting for the outro of Track A to bring in Track B. It's pointless and dated. Anyway, use the other thread for that sort of trolling kthx.
A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing?
lol m8 seriously
what you described as A-B mixing isn't even mixing |
nayit ruiz jaramillo
07.04.2013 | Quit bickering FFS. |
Doreen Schurle
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Thanks for the heads up sweetheart.
You're welcome. I'm always happy to educate the ignorant. |
Johnetta Olewine
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Uninformed post is uninformed.
A-B mixing is not the same thing as A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing.
A-B mixing is waiting for the outro of Track A to bring in Track B. It's pointless and dated. Anyway, use the other thread for that sort of trolling kthx.
Thanks for the heads up sweetheart. |
Doreen Schurle
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Fucking hell. Is mashup now the adopted term for mixing 2 songs together for more than 30 seconds?
News flash noobs. Your mad "mashups" are just the same as the A-B mixing you retards have been slating.
Uninformed post is uninformed.
A-B mixing is not the same thing as A-->A+B-->B-->B+A-->A mixing.
A-B mixing is waiting for the outro of Track A to bring in Track B. It's pointless and dated. Anyway, use the other thread for that sort of trolling kthx. |
Emelina Chillson
07.04.2013 | Stop trying to stir drama. We are all grown ups here. |
Emelina Chillson
07.04.2013 | Im not a noob sir. Been at it since 2001. I play four decks switiching between vinyl and digital. Also produce a 3rd of my set as well for live shows. And I am not against A/B mixing. |
Johnetta Olewine
07.04.2013 | Fucking hell. Is mashup now the adopted term for mixing 2 songs together for more than 30 seconds?
News flash noobs. Your mad "mashups" are just the same as the A-B mixing you retards have been slating. |
Emelina Chillson
07.04.2013 | for internal mixing making sure two tracks are going to go well together harmonically for a mash up |
Johnetta Olewine
07.04.2013 | you can still set cue points and create crates with the serato demo. Why you would need 2 decks for prep is beyond me. |
Emelina Chillson
07.04.2013 | I would kill for a two track version of serato and would even pay for it just for set preperation for gigs that dont let me hook up my box since they have serato already there. I dont see why anyone would care demo wise tho. You get to see the basic functionality of serato through the single track, pictures, and videos. Yall need to stop arguing. Negativity slows down progression not increases it. |
Doreen Schurle
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by squidot
i was unaware the serato demo was a one deck only situation, but at least it gives you some idea.
i believe it's a good idea. you can see the software, how it looks, check out the features, see the workflow, and decide from there. sure, it's not optimal to dj with a mouse and keyboard, but it can be done and you will get the point and feeling of each brand.
It's not the same though. It's literally a browser with a Play/Pause button and a waveform. There's cuepoints as well but that's about it. You get basically the same functionality on Soundcloud for christsake. Any Serato user can see the "demo" by just starting the program without any hardware attached... it's ridiculous. |
Cherise Sleezer
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by squidot
i've heard the "try before you buy here as well," and i have told people to check out the available software demos to see what works best for them. as stated, traktor pro has a full demo (minus scratch) for 30 minutes at a time. virtual dj has a free home version that you can check out. ableton has a full demo you can use for 30 days (as long as you are connected to the internet). i was unaware the serato demo was a one deck only situation, but at least it gives you some idea.
i believe it's a good idea. you can see the software, how it looks, check out the features, see the workflow, and decide from there. sure, it's not optimal to dj with a mouse and keyboard, but it can be done and you will get the point and feeling of each brand.
This is the most neutral reply i've read...and i agree with it! |
Cole Maroto
06.04.2013 | i've heard the "try before you buy here as well," and i have told people to check out the available software demos to see what works best for them. as stated, traktor pro has a full demo (minus scratch) for 30 minutes at a time. virtual dj has a free home version that you can check out. ableton has a full demo you can use for 30 days (as long as you are connected to the internet). i was unaware the serato demo was a one deck only situation, but at least it gives you some idea.
i believe it's a good idea. you can see the software, how it looks, check out the features, see the workflow, and decide from there. sure, it's not optimal to dj with a mouse and keyboard, but it can be done and you will get the point and feeling of each brand. |
nayit ruiz jaramillo
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
I don't really consider software without hardware behind it a "demo," more like "Manual iTunes/Winamp." I have a feeling that trying to mix with a mouse would actually deter new users more than it would bring them in...
How does this even make any sense..?
With the Traktor Demo you can load a few tracks. Set cue points, learn to do grids, loops. You can create playlists and you can physically DJ using hot keys. How is that remotely comparable to iTunes..? |
Doreen Schurle
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
I don't really consider software without hardware behind it a "demo," more like "Manual iTunes/Winamp." I have a feeling that trying to mix with a mouse would actually deter new users more than it would bring them in...
Then clearly you just flat-out don't understand the OP's point. Or mine for that matter. |
Nancey Inderlied
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
The Traktor Pro demo has a totally unlimited feature set. It runs for 30 mins per session.
You cannot demo scratch functionality unless you have hardware but you can demo every other feature and DJ with it you can also prep tracks with beatgrids to see how the sync functionality works with tracks/fx etc.
It used to be 30 days but people were simply backing everything up and reinstalling it before the 30 day limit. Yes they really were.
You can't actually do the one thing that you need to do with the Serato demo which is DJ with it. I understand why, it's because it is tied to hardware but that doesn't make it a good demo. It renders it pretty useless.
When I started with digital I got all the demos I could and I distinctly remember being hacked off that I couldn't at least try Serato with a mouse and have 2 decks.
I don't know loverockets motive for this thread, I mean doesn't everyone know that the Serato demo is only one deck ? I thought everyone knew this so I'm unsure if he is being genuine or just looking having some fun but I have to say I agree with the premise of his thread (certainly not all his posts).
I don't really consider software without hardware behind it a "demo," more like "Manual iTunes/Winamp." I have a feeling that trying to mix with a mouse would actually deter new users more than it would bring them in... |
Doreen Schurle
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
You never hear that. None of the top 3 software packages actually allow you to "try it" without purchasing hardware. The only, marginal, exception is VDJ Home, which has nothing to do with an actual DVS due to not working with hardware. Traktor LE is only bundled with controllers, VDJ LE is only bundled with controllers, and Serato Intro is only bundled with controllers, in fact, it could be argued that Serato has one of the best "Demo" packages out there.
Whenever you hear "try before you buy" it refers to actually going to a retailer and putting hands on the hardware itself, not sitting there in your bedroom clicking the mouse, trying to crossfade and mix with onscreen controls. This thread is nothing more than a troll trying to vent about an issue that doesn't exist.
Bollocks. All the big DJ software packages apart from Serato come in a software-only format. You can buy Traktor Pro without owning a single piece of hardware, the same for VDJ, PCDJ, Torq, etc etc. Not to mention, you can always "borrow" a copy from a friend and try it out without first splashing out |
nayit ruiz jaramillo
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
You never hear that. None of the top 3 software packages actually allow you to "try it" without purchasing hardware. The only, marginal, exception is VDJ Home, which has nothing to do with an actual DVS due to not working with hardware. Traktor LE is only bundled with controllers, VDJ LE is only bundled with controllers, and Serato Intro is only bundled with controllers, in fact, it could be argued that Serato has one of the best "Demo" packages out there.
Whenever you hear "try before you buy" it refers to actually going to a retailer and putting hands on the hardware itself, not sitting there in your bedroom clicking the mouse, trying to crossfade and mix with onscreen controls. This thread is nothing more than a troll trying to vent about an issue that doesn't exist.
The Traktor Pro demo has a totally unlimited feature set. It runs for 30 mins per session.
You cannot demo scratch functionality unless you have hardware but you can demo every other feature and DJ with it you can also prep tracks with beatgrids to see how the sync functionality works with tracks/fx etc.
It used to be 30 days but people were simply backing everything up and reinstalling it before the 30 day limit. Yes they really were.
You can't actually do the one thing that you need to do with the Serato demo which is DJ with it. I understand why, it's because it is tied to hardware but that doesn't make it a good demo. It renders it pretty useless.
When I started with digital I got all the demos I could and I distinctly remember being hacked off that I couldn't at least try Serato with a mouse and have 2 decks.
I don't know loverockets motive for this thread, I mean doesn't everyone know that the Serato demo is only one deck ? I thought everyone knew this so I'm unsure if he is being genuine or just looking having some fun but I have to say I agree with the premise of his thread (certainly not all his posts). |
Nancey Inderlied
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Sorry. I just always hear "try before you buy" here on DJTT.
And with Serato, which is one of the TOP 3 DJ software programs out there, you cannot.
That's all I wanted to clarify. And IMO it's not good for the consumer.
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You never hear that. None of the top 3 software packages actually allow you to "try it" without purchasing hardware. The only, marginal, exception is VDJ Home, which has nothing to do with an actual DVS due to not working with hardware. Traktor LE is only bundled with controllers, VDJ LE is only bundled with controllers, and Serato Intro is only bundled with controllers, in fact, it could be argued that Serato has one of the best "Demo" packages out there.
Whenever you hear "try before you buy" it refers to actually going to a retailer and putting hands on the hardware itself, not sitting there in your bedroom clicking the mouse, trying to crossfade and mix with onscreen controls. This thread is nothing more than a troll trying to vent about an issue that doesn't exist. |
Jerica Salava
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Im sorry that stating that the professional audio world doesn't always have a "baby's first bedroom edition" is considered assholeish... Serato actually does have one of the best entry level software packages in Serato Intro, but no, you cant run a TPB crack of it with your mouse.
What's next? Complaining that JBL doesn't have cheap speakers? That Rane doesn't make cheap rack bits? That Pioneer doesn't make bargain bin CDJs? Won't someone please white kevening
on the internet about the bedroom consumer?!
Sorry. I just always hear "try before you buy" here on DJTT.
And with Serato, which is one of the TOP 3 DJ software programs out there, you cannot.
That's all I wanted to clarify. And IMO it's not good for the consumer.
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Nancey Inderlied
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Can you feel the asshole tone in there?
If you can't it's probably because you're one too.
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Im sorry that stating that the professional audio world doesn't always have a "baby's first bedroom edition" is considered assholeish... Serato actually does have one of the best entry level software packages in Serato Intro, but no, you cant run a TPB crack of it with your mouse.
What's next? Complaining that JBL doesn't have cheap speakers? That Rane doesn't make cheap rack bits? That Pioneer doesn't make bargain bin CDJs? Won't someone please white kevening
on the internet about the bedroom consumer?! |
Addie Engbrecht
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Can you feel the asshole tone in there?
If you can't it's probably because you're one too.
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Oh yea no doubt, but in all fairness, they're some stronger comments made beforehand by yourself that make this seem quite tame. I'm not sure if that Serato fanboy STFU comment was directed at him or in general as isnt blatantly clear, but it sure seemed like it was and maybe thats where we were mistaken. It is what it is though. |
Jerica Salava
06.04.2013 |
If you're not willing to make the investment, go elsewhere. It's a bar for the average customer for their products, and that, I can totally understand from a business perspective. It's also something that you know people using Serato products actually bought their shit, which to me, counts for a lot.
You get what you pay for, and it's not always a "try before you buy" situation.
Can you feel the asshole tone in there?
If you can't it's probably because you're one too.
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Addie Engbrecht
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Bassline Brine was stating that Serato is too good and/or professional for a demo. That's the Serato Fan Boy crap that people can't stand.
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Hate to comment on this and create the possibility of continuing an unneccesary pissing match between you two, but did he edit one of his posts? Cause I never read anything that even slightly suggests what you just stated. This community
is typically a friendly one, so I wouldnt try and read into comments and believe that there is some type of negative meaning behind what people say, not saying you do or did, just not sure what happened here |
Jerica Salava
06.04.2013 | I got my answer thank you. There is no demo.
So now we can tell the beginners that. Thanks again.
You guys are the ones that started with the hate.
Bassline Brine was stating that Serato is too good and/or professional for a demo. That's the Serato Fan Boy crap that people can't stand.
End of thread. Thanks again.
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Julissa Serrone
07.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
Jeez, is it time for another blatant troll thread already?
Yeah man. Give it a rest already |
Audrey Pinda
07.04.2013 | Honestly man, if you're posting a question and don't want answers, and just want to jump on people who enjoy Serato?
I'm sorry.
A demo doesn't exist. You can use one deck, or try out someone's setup. That's it.
I've been using these community
s for a long time as well, and it's not worth getting into a pissing contest about. If you're not willing to hear legit feedback without jumping on people who answer, don't bother asking the question in the first place. I'm bothered not by your question, but the attitude when responding to the answers given.
Grow up. |
Merilyn Eberline
06.04.2013 | I agree with him. Make the investment and get a nice midi controller. Check out that new one Pioneer came out with the DDJ-S1 - looks AWESOME. But really. The sooner you get some nice gear
, the sooner you'll be able to follow your dreams and make some money too! |
Jerica Salava
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by Bassline Brine
It's a demo. Shows you everything you can do. If you like the idea of it, buy the hardware. If you don't like it, you can sell it for damned near what you paid for it. Pretty simple. No you can't practice mixing with it, but it gives you a basic idea.
I use SSL and ITCH. Both are exactly what I want out of them. I guess I'm a fanboy who can STFU right?
If you're not willing to make the investment, go elsewhere. It's a bar for the average customer for their products, and that, I can totally understand from a business perspective. It's also something that you know people using Serato products actually bought their shit, which to me, counts for a lot.
You get what you pay for, and it's not always a "try before you buy" situation.
wow ! YOU are amazing. sorry bout that Serato Boy. I was wrong bout you.
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Jerica Salava
06.04.2013 | wow. I am a troll again? how about I ask good questions?
I have to buy a controller to demo your software?
who am I trolling?
This Is DJ Tech Tools right?
This is why we come here right?
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Kristofer Krauel
06.04.2013 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
nothing like DJing with one deck ! "Yo buddy check out these one deck moves!'This is the time for Serato fan boys to STFU. No excuses. This is not good for your software.
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So people aren't allowed to have opinions if they differ to yours??!! I saw you write in another thread that you liked healthy debate? People need to have differing opinions if thats the case. Have you even used Serato?
I also saw in another thread that someone said you sound like a bell end..... i'm tending to agree! No offence intended! |
