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Can you recommend me a 4 IN/4 OUT USB or FW soundcard
Posted on: 14.04.2013 by Nereida Jasnoch
Hi,

I'm really in need of a soundcard. My monitors are directly hooked up to my laptop at the moment.
(Yes I get crackling/static occasionally)

This is what the soundcard should be able to do:

In the studio:
-Something decent to hook my monitors up to (they use RCA)
-Easy to reach knobs for output volume/gain
-Need to be able to plug in a mic
-Headphone out would be nice

DJ setup:
-1 input for recording the mix
-1 input for a send/return
-1 output for a send/return
(send/return probably with Xone 92, but that's for the future)
-1 output to go to a mixer channel
-another output to route maschine on would be nice but not required.

I asked an ableton instructor what he would recommend and he said I was a fool if I didn't get FireWire, but I believe I'm going to go for a USB interface to keep the cost down.

I really have no idea what I should pick.
Doreen Schurle
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Ooh no the Audio 2 is excellent value for money. The outs are exactly what they say they are. I have used mine in internal and external mode and it's crystal clear.

You have to be very harsh to criticise the Audio 2 even if it is made of plastic and as small as pack of cards.

Is the 10th out yet? I can't find a price.
But it DOES use headphone out as a main output, was my point

I believe the 10tion is an old product, discontinued now.
Doreen Schurle
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Using the phones as an out is ridiculous as well.

I can see why you didnt recommend it
Tell that to Native Instruments with the ridiculous Audio 2 :P

With that said, the 10tion is pretty shit lol.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
There's only ever been the "Traktor Audio 6" I believe; the timecode package is now called Scratch A6 instead.
Very true. I should have said 'Audio 4'. He will find it easier to get an Audio 4 on it's own.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by fitzyp
offtopic, But Im looking to trade somebody my like new Komplete Audio 6 for their Traktor audio 6. Didn't figure out that the komplete audio 6 doesn't support timecode until it was too late. Dammit.
You should make a trade thread in the Buy & Sell community .
Although, you might struggle because the TA6 is sold as a package with software and they cannot be split. You should probably look for an 'Audio 6', the older version of the TA6. The Audio 6 was sold separately from software.
Janyce Henningson
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
That seems to defy logic
I know - I didn't try it in my hub for ages because I didn't believe it would help and had all sorts of problems, as have hundreds more according to Google, then I thought I'd give the hub a try and so far so good - macbook no problems at all.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
http://www.reloop.com/reloop-10tion


LOL??? You're sh*tting me right? Why is that brick is labelled 4 in / 4 out. I never include the mic input as a regular In. It doesn't even have a decent pre-amp on the mic channel.
Using the phones as an out is ridiculous as well.

I can see why you didnt recommend it
Nedra Fresneda
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Would it be a lot less risky on a MBP ?
Couldn't tell 100% on the Scarletts. I never had any issues with Saffires and my recommendation lies there.
Alphonso Deitchman
17.04.2013		USB 2.0 is perfectly fine for any typical DJ setup. Even with 4 stereo ins and outs at 24bit/96kHz you are still not even close to saturating the USB 2.0 port bandwidth.
Nereida Jasnoch
17.04.2013		Would the USB 2.0 on the komplete audio struggle with 4 things coming in on quarter inch and 4 things going out on quarter inch all at the same time ?

I've heard that 2.0 is just fine up until you start sending more than 2 or 3 things around.
Emelina Paglia
15.04.2013		American Audio Versaport
Doreen Schurle
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Ooh no the Audio 2 is excellent value for money. The outs are exactly what they say they are. I have used mine in internal and external mode and it's crystal clear.

You have to be very harsh to criticise the Audio 2 even if it is made of plastic and as small as pack of cards.

Is the 10th out yet? I can't find a price.
But it DOES use headphone out as a main output, was my point

I believe the 10tion is an old product, discontinued now.
Alphonso Deitchman
15.04.2013		The Audio 2 is a great little card. 2 hybrid line/headphone outs, gain dials for each, decent sound quality, and way more volume than you'd ever need.

And its name isn't based on how many mono outputs it has..
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.04.2013		Ooh no the Audio 2 is excellent value for money. The outs are exactly what they say they are. I have used mine in internal and external mode and it's crystal clear.

You have to be very harsh to criticise the Audio 2 even if it is made of plastic and as small as pack of cards.

Is the 10th out yet? I can't find a price.
Doreen Schurle
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Using the phones as an out is ridiculous as well.

I can see why you didnt recommend it
Tell that to Native Instruments with the ridiculous Audio 2 :P

With that said, the 10tion is pretty shit lol.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
There's only ever been the "Traktor Audio 6" I believe; the timecode package is now called Scratch A6 instead.
Very true. I should have said 'Audio 4'. He will find it easier to get an Audio 4 on it's own.
Alphonso Deitchman
15.04.2013		There's only ever been the "Traktor Audio 6" I believe; the timecode package is now called Scratch A6 instead.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by fitzyp
offtopic, But Im looking to trade somebody my like new Komplete Audio 6 for their Traktor audio 6. Didn't figure out that the komplete audio 6 doesn't support timecode until it was too late. Dammit.
You should make a trade thread in the Buy & Sell community .
Although, you might struggle because the TA6 is sold as a package with software and they cannot be split. You should probably look for an 'Audio 6', the older version of the TA6. The Audio 6 was sold separately from software.
Ned Somerset
15.04.2013		offtopic, But Im looking to trade somebody my like new Komplete Audio 6 for their Traktor audio 6. Didn't figure out that the komplete audio 6 doesn't support timecode until it was too late. Dammit.
Janyce Henningson
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
That seems to defy logic
I know - I didn't try it in my hub for ages because I didn't believe it would help and had all sorts of problems, as have hundreds more according to Google, then I thought I'd give the hub a try and so far so good - macbook no problems at all.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
http://www.reloop.com/reloop-10tion


LOL??? You're sh*tting me right? Why is that brick is labelled 4 in / 4 out. I never include the mic input as a regular In. It doesn't even have a decent pre-amp on the mic channel.
Using the phones as an out is ridiculous as well.

I can see why you didnt recommend it
Nedra Fresneda
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Would it be a lot less risky on a MBP ?
Couldn't tell 100% on the Scarletts. I never had any issues with Saffires and my recommendation lies there.
Alphonso Deitchman
16.04.2013		All audio is in general less "risky" on Macs if they are class-compliant.
Nereida Jasnoch
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by padi_04
Yeah that's the Scarlett line, bit of a hit and miss depending on the rig.
Would it be a lot less risky on a MBP ?
Wilton Keuning
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by padi_04
http://global.focusrite.com/firewire...saffire-pro-14
Came here to post this. DJTT you never disappoint.
Nereida Jasnoch
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Ahh yeah just re-read, mine is the USB version - which is dodgy on Windows - although since I put it into my USB hub seems better behaved.
That seems to defy logic
Nedra Fresneda
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Ahh yeah just re-read, mine is the USB version - which is dodgy on Windows - although since I put it into my USB hub seems better behaved.
Yeah that's the Scarlett line, bit of a hit and miss depending on the rig.
Janyce Henningson
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by padi_04
Saffire is pretty sturdy, we use 2 with the band on stage.
Ahh yeah just re-read, mine is the USB version - which is dodgy on Windows - although since I put it into my USB hub seems better behaved.
Hayden Raugh
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
http://www.reloop.com/reloop-10tion

Hahahaha Karlos i rest my case!
Merideth Garnder
15.04.2013		I currently use an Echo AudioFire 4.....very low latency with its FW setup and the price is very low online....
Nedra Fresneda
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Really impressed with the komplete audio and the focusrite so far. The price point and features are ideal.

The focusrite is pretty cool because it has a FW port and comes with FW to thunderbolt cable. And I like the complete audio because of it's sturdy case.
Saffire is pretty sturdy, we use 2 with the band on stage.
Doreen Schurle
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Maybe because Reloop don't make a soundcard that meets the O.P's requirements. The 'Play' hasn't got 'Ins' required and the iPhono is just weird.
http://www.reloop.com/reloop-10tion

Janyce Henningson
15.04.2013		What OS are you using?

If it's Windows, be careful with the Focusrite - I've had nothing but trouble with mine.
Works fine on my macbook though.
Nereida Jasnoch
15.04.2013		Really impressed with the komplete audio and the focusrite so far. The price point and features are ideal.

The focusrite is pretty cool because it has a FW port and comes with FW to thunderbolt cable. And I like the complete audio because of it's sturdy case.
Hayden Raugh
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Maybe because Reloop don't make a soundcard that meets the O.P's requirements. The 'Play' hasn't got 'Ins' required and the iPhono is just weird.
haha karlos i know that but i still wouldnt have been suprised if he plugged something reloop haha
Nedra Fresneda
15.04.2013		http://global.focusrite.com/firewire...saffire-pro-14
nayit ruiz jaramillo
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by city_boy07
MDC you just made me choke on my tea seeing you not promote anything Reloop!

Maybe because Reloop don't make a soundcard that meets the O.P's requirements. The 'Play' hasn't got 'Ins' required and the iPhono is just weird.
Hayden Raugh
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
In that case, I'd recommend a Komplete Audio 6 (NOT a Traktor Audio 6). Technically it's a 6-in/6-out, but meets all of your criteria perfectly
MDC you just made me choke on my tea seeing you not promote anything Reloop!
Alphonso Deitchman
14.04.2013		For your DJing setup, an Audio 8 DJ would be ideal as it gives plenty of inputs and outputs.

Since you're using a Xone 92 you cannot make use of the digital outs of the Komplete Audio 6, so that leaves you with only 2 stereo outputs. The Audio 8 DJ on the other hand has 4 stereo outputs, in addition to meeting all your studio requirements.

Only problem is it's discontinued so you'd have to buy one used.

Edit: The Saffire Pro 24 would also fit nicely; it has Firewire and a volume dial for your monitors.
Doreen Schurle
14.04.2013
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Whoops yea. I need 2 stereo channels in as well as out. So that would make it 4 in 4 out.
In that case, I'd recommend a Komplete Audio 6 (NOT a Traktor Audio 6). Technically it's a 6-in/6-out, but meets all of your criteria perfectly
Nereida Jasnoch
14.04.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Do you mean a 2 in / 2 out, or a 4 in / 4 out? Ie, do you need 1 stereo channel or 2?
Whoops yea. I need 2 stereo channels in as well as out. So that would make it 4 in 4 out.

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