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UK Bass/Bass music - what is it. How to produce?
Posted on: 15.04.2013 by Zulma Ramji
hey guys,

I've been listening to some so called 'bass music' but I honestly can't yet put a finger on what exactly it means. Seems like so much stuff is being grouped into it - from deep house to drum and bass too dubstep.

Especially I want to know because I want to try producing it. When I am told house music I know its usually 4 on the floor kick pattern. With bass music i cant seem to find any tutorials online.

Id appreciate any insight into what UK Bass and Bass Music is and how can I get producing it.

Thanks
Augustine Mitzen
18.04.2013
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
I always thought bass music was dubstep for producers embarrassed about the current state of dubstep.
pretty much how it started
Inez Marcinik
17.04.2013
Originally Posted by elliot1106
Yes!

Oh, don't get why people rip post-dubstep... you clearly don't get it, the stuffs brilliant.
I believe it's more the term that's getting ripped
Lashawn Maycock
17.04.2013
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
We've always pioneered and will continue to pioneer! London is the key.
Innit Omni
Elmer Kindinger
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
Lorenzo, Hannah Wants and the like.
Doesn't Lorenzo make like most of it then the others just add their name to it?

E.g. >Add name here< & Lorenzo
Doreen Schurle
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I remember when people called it that at school and I was like, what kind? Which usually received the response of "... Dance music." For a brief while, I thought all the scum kids took dance lessons, then I got home and on the old 56k, did a google, and thats when I discovered the umbrella term dance music. I also recall some chavs being into hardcore and I said "Yeah I like some hardcore too" and played them a gabber track. Turns out, they didn't like hardcore, they liked Scooter.
The term "hardcore" is just as stupid as "dance music". If people say they like hardcore, I say "hardcore what? Hardcore trance? Hardcore metal? Hardcore techno? Hardcore jungle?"
Annalisa Shogren
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by vpech013
There is just soo much cool shit coming out of UK. Here in Canada many-many musicians are really looking up to you guys across the pond
We've always pioneered and will continue to pioneer! London is the key.
Trista Karle
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I remember when people called it that at school and I was like, what kind? Which usually received the response of "... Dance music." For a brief while, I thought all the scum kids took dance lessons, then I got home and on the old 56k, did a google, and thats when I discovered the umbrella term dance music. I also recall some chavs being into hardcore and I said "Yeah I like some hardcore too" and played them a gabber track. Turns out, they didn't like hardcore, they liked Scooter.
Lol loved how people DIdnt knownthendifferent between hardcore and happy hardcore lol grabber ftw
Bernard Wieand
18.04.2013
Come on, you can do better.
Augustine Mitzen
18.04.2013
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
I always thought bass music was dubstep for producers embarrassed about the current state of dubstep.
pretty much how it started
Melinda Shick
17.04.2013
http://www.mixcloud.com/Maxted/maxte...e-garage-3413/

Check out tracklists on my other mixes, pretty much covers most of the deeper stuff.
Delfina Suedmeyer
17.04.2013
Inez Marcinik
17.04.2013
Originally Posted by elliot1106
Yes!

Oh, don't get why people rip post-dubstep... you clearly don't get it, the stuffs brilliant.
I believe it's more the term that's getting ripped
Linda Chavda
17.04.2013
Yes!

Oh, don't get why people rip post-dubstep... you clearly don't get it, the stuffs brilliant.
Sonja Roybal
17.04.2013
I always thought bass music was dubstep for producers embarrassed about the current state of dubstep.
Hipolito Scionti
17.04.2013
London 1992

Just some pioneering shit

Rana Rigling
18.04.2013
It's all these things. It's just another umbrella term coined by over zealous bloggers.
Rana Rigling
17.04.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
Implying that other genres didn't have bass. Bizarre isn't it!
That's not what it is at all. It refers to music that's bass-centric, there's more emphasis the way the bass sounds and how it works with the rest of the track.

Originally Posted by scooterADAM
also there is another kick ass thread on here with other DJTTers regularly laying out some good tunes
That'd be this one. Should give you enough material to go on!
Lashawn Maycock
17.04.2013
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
We've always pioneered and will continue to pioneer! London is the key.
Innit Omni
Elmer Kindinger
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
Lorenzo, Hannah Wants and the like.
Doesn't Lorenzo make like most of it then the others just add their name to it?

E.g. >Add name here< & Lorenzo
Doreen Schurle
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I remember when people called it that at school and I was like, what kind? Which usually received the response of "... Dance music." For a brief while, I thought all the scum kids took dance lessons, then I got home and on the old 56k, did a google, and thats when I discovered the umbrella term dance music. I also recall some chavs being into hardcore and I said "Yeah I like some hardcore too" and played them a gabber track. Turns out, they didn't like hardcore, they liked Scooter.
The term "hardcore" is just as stupid as "dance music". If people say they like hardcore, I say "hardcore what? Hardcore trance? Hardcore metal? Hardcore techno? Hardcore jungle?"
Annalisa Shogren
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by vpech013
There is just soo much cool shit coming out of UK. Here in Canada many-many musicians are really looking up to you guys across the pond
We've always pioneered and will continue to pioneer! London is the key.
Trista Karle
16.04.2013
Mind you seeing a grabber Dj go between hardcore and happy hardcore mid set was usually entertaining.
Trista Karle
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
I remember when people called it that at school and I was like, what kind? Which usually received the response of "... Dance music." For a brief while, I thought all the scum kids took dance lessons, then I got home and on the old 56k, did a google, and thats when I discovered the umbrella term dance music. I also recall some chavs being into hardcore and I said "Yeah I like some hardcore too" and played them a gabber track. Turns out, they didn't like hardcore, they liked Scooter.
Lol loved how people DIdnt knownthendifferent between hardcore and happy hardcore lol grabber ftw
Zulma Ramji
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by DubluW
''So what are brazil nuts called in brazil?........'' ''Nuts''


''Whats UK Bass Music?.........''
There is just soo much cool shit coming out of UK. Here in Canada many-many musicians are really looking up to you guys across the pond
Brunilda Kora
16.04.2013
I laughed at this:

Originally Posted by Sambo
Turns out, they didn't like hardcore, they liked Scooter.
While I was still laughing at this:

Originally Posted by Sambo
played them a gabber track.
Lillia Datson
16.04.2013
''So what are brazil nuts called in brazil?........'' ''Nuts''


''Whats UK Bass Music?.........''
Ming Devis
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by johney
'post-dubstep'
My point exactly
Augustine Mitzen
16.04.2013
'post-dubstep'
Ming Devis
16.04.2013
Originally Posted by scooterADAM
this is one of my fav genres of the moment, I really like how it covers a wide variety of genres from garage, uk funky, techno, deep house, trap, post dub step, juke/footwork etc etc

don't see the point in being all precious about the whole 'bass' tag, I mean if you wanted to be pendantic wouldn't the oldest definition of bass music be miami booty bass?

OP, suggest you check out juno's bass tag, it makes sense to me at least... also there is another kick ass thread on here with other DJTTers regularly laying out some good tunes

can be a bit confusing when darker dubstep/US brostep/drumstep and dark DnB get lumped in with it which I subjectively don't believe fits the vibe of it, gave up on beatports tagging a while ago for this reason, maybe it got better now, not sure...

re OPs question on defining characteristics to produce music from this fairly broad umbrella genre: (all my subjective take on it)
  • trap is fairly well known by now, loads of 808 kick/pitched snare and hi hats rolls
  • post dub step was the round 140ish dubstep minues the schreeching mid range and loads of pitch shifted singy vocals and reverb
  • on the more housey styles I notice that they lay off the side chain synth a bit, focus on getting clean sounding bass stabby sounds and often the whole up one semitone/down one semitone deep house thing, quite a lot of break downs with lush pads before going back to no pads at all
  • the jukey trap production seems a bit more sample based, slice/choke/replay mpc/maschine style and for the 160+ some chopped up drum loops, a lot of the footwork stuff seems to ironically have little bass at all, just lots of high pitched snares
  • the 'future garage' stuff seems just like garage with a bit more deep house feel
  • i'm at a loss to try to define the techno aspect of it, seems whenever some of it doesn't fit into the other sub sub genres...


ideally I would put a solid example of each but no time for that at the mo... maybe later on...
Well said mate. It makes more sense to me to label sub bass heavy music with dub/house/garage/2step whatever influence under one banner opposed to having an arguement about how much that tune isn't post dubstep/garage tech or some genre that was mentioned by some guy in an interview.
Maile Dekerlegand
16.04.2013
this is one of my fav genres of the moment, I really like how it covers a wide variety of genres from garage, uk funky, techno, deep house, trap, post dub step, juke/footwork etc etc

don't see the point in being all precious about the whole 'bass' tag, I mean if you wanted to be pendantic wouldn't the oldest definition of bass music be miami booty bass?

OP, suggest you check out juno's bass tag, it makes sense to me at least... also there is another kick ass thread on here with other DJTTers regularly laying out some good tunes

can be a bit confusing when darker dubstep/US brostep/drumstep and dark DnB get lumped in with it which I subjectively don't believe fits the vibe of it, gave up on beatports tagging a while ago for this reason, maybe it got better now, not sure...

re OPs question on defining characteristics to produce music from this fairly broad umbrella genre: (all my subjective take on it)
  • trap is fairly well known by now, loads of 808 kick/pitched snare and hi hats rolls
  • post dub step was the round 140ish dubstep minues the schreeching mid range and loads of pitch shifted singy vocals and reverb
  • on the more housey styles I notice that they lay off the side chain synth a bit, focus on getting clean sounding bass stabby sounds and often the whole up one semitone/down one semitone deep house thing, quite a lot of break downs with lush pads before going back to no pads at all
  • the jukey trap production seems a bit more sample based, slice/choke/replay mpc/maschine style and for the 160+ some chopped up drum loops, a lot of the footwork stuff seems to ironically have little bass at all, just lots of high pitched snares
  • the 'future garage' stuff seems just like garage with a bit more deep house feel
  • i'm at a loss to try to define the techno aspect of it, seems whenever some of it doesn't fit into the other sub sub genres...


ideally I would put a solid example of each but no time for that at the mo... maybe later on...
Jetta Drenzek
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Conall
Another one that's even weirder, "dance music"
I remember when people called it that at school and I was like, what kind? Which usually received the response of "... Dance music." For a brief while, I thought all the scum kids took dance lessons, then I got home and on the old 56k, did a google, and thats when I discovered the umbrella term dance music. I also recall some chavs being into hardcore and I said "Yeah I like some hardcore too" and played them a gabber track. Turns out, they didn't like hardcore, they liked Scooter.
Inez Marcinik
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Sambo
Implying that other genres didn't have bass. Bizarre isn't it!

I love garage, bassline. Also some of the jackin stuff is good, Lorenzo for example.
Another one that's even weirder, "dance music"
Jetta Drenzek
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by Conall
As if genres weren't confusing enough for people, the term "bass music" was coined.
Implying that other genres didn't have bass. Bizarre isn't it!

I love garage, bassline. Also some of the jackin stuff is good, Lorenzo for example.
Inez Marcinik
15.04.2013
As if genres weren't confusing enough for people, the term "bass music" was coined.
Lillia Datson
15.04.2013
Dont forget to also check out Huxley and LKiD. And you might like some of the Jackin house stuff from the North of the UK. Lorenzo, Hannah Wants and the like.
Augustine Mitzen
15.04.2013
+check Keysound label
Zulma Ramji
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
Well here's some artists to get you started...

Royal-T
T Williams
Zed Bias
Roska
Mosca
Azari & III
Shadow Child
Zinc
Leftwing
Jack Dixson
Dusky
Luciano Garofalo
Eats Everything
Hot City
Jam City
L-Vis 1990
Maelstrom
That's amazing, thanks man!
Annalisa Shogren
15.04.2013
Well here's some artists to get you started...

Royal-T
T Williams
Zed Bias
Roska
Mosca
Azari & III
Shadow Child
Zinc
Leftwing
Jack Dixson
Dusky
Luciano Garofalo
Eats Everything
Hot City
Jam City
L-Vis 1990
Maelstrom
Augustine Mitzen
15.04.2013
uk funky
Zulma Ramji
15.04.2013
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
Eugh, this term makes me sick to my stomach. 'UK Bass Music' is just a term that's been coined to cover all of the genres like drum & bass, dubstep, house, trap.
Gotcha.

So here is what I am talking about:
https://soundcloud.com/damn_kids/damn-kids-tyledon-b-traits-bbc

I like this sound but i cant figure out what this is about. It seems all over the place. is it just crazy swing on hi hats and bass drums that hide the four-on-the-floor beat?
Are there any resources out that that looks into this 'bass' music?

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