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Best controller available Posted on: 18.04.2013 by Tommy Thiner Just wondering what everyone's opinion is on the best controller out. It doesn't matter whether it's 2 deck or 4 deck traktor or serato. Id like to see people even go as far for instance to include standalone mixers like a Z2 that doesn't require tt's
Dannie Dimora 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by Hippie Nope you're all wrong NS7 mk2 We have neither price nor ETA...
Latoria Kavulich 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by jakeintox For me it's the Denon DN-MC6000, Though that Pio DDJ-SX is looking pretty good... Yes for me the MC6000 would be my top "all in one" however the traktor version of the DDJ-SX would be badass.
Kathe Stump 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Both of those "features" are just NI locking out the competition through software so they can actually get people to buy their average controllers The buttons on the X1 are much nicer than any of those on the S4 Edit: How is this any different from standard Filters? How many filters have you seen that use encoders? Exactly. To everything he just said. S4 is not even close to a contender. It has among the wost build-quality of any controller most of us have ever seen, and it's ONLY strengths come from NI locking down features to give them exclusively to their own.... A failure which actually makes the controller WORSE than others, because it means you can't effectively remap it.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by DJ Abide Considering NHL & MIDI modes, Timecode support, Both of those "features" are just NI locking out the competition through software so they can actually get people to buy their average controllers Originally Posted by DJ Abide and all of the same controls the X1 the piece the DJTT vets voted for. I've got mine spinnin' like a top. The buttons on the X1 are much nicer than any of those on the S4 Edit: Originally Posted by mdcdesign you want pots with center detents for the Macro ones (and HARD detents, because even 1/100th either side and the sound changes drastically) How is this any different from standard Filters? How many filters have you seen that use encoders?
Lashay Walchak 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by octostout Also, LMAO @ the couple silly kids that actually typed "S2" or "S4" as a serious response for the best controller on the market. There's a big difference between the two. I'd say the S4 is still a contender. Considering NHL & MIDI modes, Timecode support, and all of the same controls the X1 the piece the DJTT vets voted for. I've got mine spinnin' like a top.
Nedra Fresneda 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Yeah, they work well though. They're depress-capable encoders as well, so you can map them so pressing them resets the effect parameters; VERY useful for Macro FX as they'll reset instantly to the 50% mark (off). And the fact that you can have it update parameters as you scroll through regular fx is priceless IMO, no need to play catch up. non click encoders for the job or endless pots with led/screen feedback.
Doreen Schurle 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Tactile feedback from pots is much better IMO, you can reset them almost as easily, and are smooth apart from the detent. I read from one of the comments that the Jockey FX encoders have clicks? I guess that's why they added Dry/Wet functionality to the channel faders.. Also why did they put on a Cue/Master mix mini fader in the middle? A standard pot would be so much better. For EQing, definitely. Not so much for effects though; the fact that there are now TWO different types of effects (Normal and Macro) in Traktor confused the issue; you want pots with center detents for the Macro ones (and HARD detents, because even 1/100th either side and the sound changes drastically), and ones without for normal effects; encoders is a good alternative when neither type of pot is really ideal for every situation. But they have to be push encoders for that reset capability, otherwise they're a evening mare to use. As for the fader, no idea tbh. Probably a design choice for some sort of "symmetry" between the two channel faders and the crossfader. I'd have used a knob, personally. I suppose it's better visual feedback though.
Doreen Schurle 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Does that thing really have encoders for the FX section? Yeah, they work well though. They're depress-capable encoders as well, so you can map them so pressing them resets the effect parameters; VERY useful for Macro FX as they'll reset instantly to the 50% mark (off).
Peggie Mineros 21.04.2013	Are jog wheels a must for you? And what's your price range. If you can afford it, it's advisable to go get a pair of cdj's that have midi mapping features. My choice would be the Denon DNS3700 or 3900s, these cdjs have a real direct drive platter to control cds, usb sticks, or they can be put into "hybrid midi mode" and send midi over usb and timecode signals through audio at the same time. And a legit mixer that does midi as well. If you are anything like me, the more you use a program like Traktor, the more you long to ditch the laptop from time to time. It's nice to know that if you are playing live and your laptop goes down, you have a legit pair of decks and a mixer. But that will be pricy. I have a Stanton SCS.1m and 1.d. Legit direct drive turntable with a real piece of vinyl to control Traktor. And one deck controls 4 in Traktor. It's pretty awesome, but there is a very small community around it. If you want to get really geeky, an Electrix Tweaker is a good idea. It comes with a Traktor mapping as well as an Ableton Live mapping. Plus (and this is my favorite part) an editor software to build your own mappings and behaviors for buttons, knobs and faders. Also 8 velocity sensitive pads. It's a little pricy for a controller that has no audio interface, but all in all its a pretty open canvas of a controller. Honestly, I just got mine, and I'm overwhelmed with all the possibilities.
Dannie Dimora 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by Hippie Nope you're all wrong NS7 mk2 We have neither price nor ETA...
Latoria Kavulich 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by jakeintox For me it's the Denon DN-MC6000, Though that Pio DDJ-SX is looking pretty good... Yes for me the MC6000 would be my top "all in one" however the traktor version of the DDJ-SX would be badass.
Kathe Stump 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Both of those "features" are just NI locking out the competition through software so they can actually get people to buy their average controllers The buttons on the X1 are much nicer than any of those on the S4 Edit: How is this any different from standard Filters? How many filters have you seen that use encoders? Exactly. To everything he just said. S4 is not even close to a contender. It has among the wost build-quality of any controller most of us have ever seen, and it's ONLY strengths come from NI locking down features to give them exclusively to their own.... A failure which actually makes the controller WORSE than others, because it means you can't effectively remap it.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by DJ Abide Considering NHL & MIDI modes, Timecode support, Both of those "features" are just NI locking out the competition through software so they can actually get people to buy their average controllers Originally Posted by DJ Abide and all of the same controls the X1 the piece the DJTT vets voted for. I've got mine spinnin' like a top. The buttons on the X1 are much nicer than any of those on the S4 Edit: Originally Posted by mdcdesign you want pots with center detents for the Macro ones (and HARD detents, because even 1/100th either side and the sound changes drastically) How is this any different from standard Filters? How many filters have you seen that use encoders?
Lashay Walchak 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by octostout Also, LMAO @ the couple silly kids that actually typed "S2" or "S4" as a serious response for the best controller on the market. There's a big difference between the two. I'd say the S4 is still a contender. Considering NHL & MIDI modes, Timecode support, and all of the same controls the X1 the piece the DJTT vets voted for. I've got mine spinnin' like a top.
Nedra Fresneda 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Yeah, they work well though. They're depress-capable encoders as well, so you can map them so pressing them resets the effect parameters; VERY useful for Macro FX as they'll reset instantly to the 50% mark (off). And the fact that you can have it update parameters as you scroll through regular fx is priceless IMO, no need to play catch up. non click encoders for the job or endless pots with led/screen feedback.
Trista Karle 17.04.2013	Ps3 controller for size and portability
Doreen Schurle 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Tactile feedback from pots is much better IMO, you can reset them almost as easily, and are smooth apart from the detent. I read from one of the comments that the Jockey FX encoders have clicks? I guess that's why they added Dry/Wet functionality to the channel faders.. Also why did they put on a Cue/Master mix mini fader in the middle? A standard pot would be so much better. For EQing, definitely. Not so much for effects though; the fact that there are now TWO different types of effects (Normal and Macro) in Traktor confused the issue; you want pots with center detents for the Macro ones (and HARD detents, because even 1/100th either side and the sound changes drastically), and ones without for normal effects; encoders is a good alternative when neither type of pot is really ideal for every situation. But they have to be push encoders for that reset capability, otherwise they're a evening mare to use. As for the fader, no idea tbh. Probably a design choice for some sort of "symmetry" between the two channel faders and the crossfader. I'd have used a knob, personally. I suppose it's better visual feedback though.
Kathe Stump 17.04.2013	Actually, fuck it, as long as we're only talking about DJ controllers, technically speaking the CDJ-2000 nexus is the best controller ever made.
Kathe Stump 17.04.2013	What a silly question. Also how has nobody said BCR-2000? I'd also make a claim that the Xone K2 is up there. Midi fighter 3D deserves a spot as well. Also, LMAO @ the couple silly kids that actually typed "S2" or "S4" as a serious response for the best controller on the market.
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	Tactile feedback from pots is much better IMO, you can reset them almost as easily, and are smooth apart from the detent. I read from one of the comments that the Jockey FX encoders have clicks? I guess that's why they added Dry/Wet functionality to the channel faders.. Also why did they put on a Cue/Master mix mini fader in the middle? A standard pot would be so much better.
Doreen Schurle 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Does that thing really have encoders for the FX section? Yeah, they work well though. They're depress-capable encoders as well, so you can map them so pressing them resets the effect parameters; VERY useful for Macro FX as they'll reset instantly to the 50% mark (off).
Addie Engbrecht 17.04.2013	Standalone?? I never owned one, but the MC6000 has been around long enough for me to call it fairly well built, def believe it's gotta be one of the best built standalone controllers. Modular? I mean I really like my X1. Not much to it to go wrong, but at the same time I've never had a problem w/ it, and I dont recall seeing anyone writing about any malfunctions.
Ethel Feigum 17.04.2013	For me it's the Denon DN-MC6000, Though that Pio DDJ-SX is looking pretty good...
Alphonso Deitchman 17.04.2013	Does that thing really have encoders for the FX section?
Doreen Schurle 17.04.2013	As predictable as this response is, most review sites agree with me
Javier Rowinsky 17.04.2013	2 casette players and a 2 channel mixer BOSS
Kira Menichetti 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by 0Notice Personally I would love to be able to have a External Mixer and Two X1s Had this setup except only one X1, it was great until i moved to timecode.
Valeri Millstein 17.04.2013	Personally I would love to be able to have a External Mixer and Two X1s
Nedra Fresneda 17.04.2013	^what he said
Latoria Kavulich 17.04.2013	game over lolz
Matt Kane 17.04.2013	THIS!
Tania Somppi 17.04.2013	Nope you're all wrong NS7 mk2
Judi Sissel 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by photojojo X1 Originally Posted by Jester yep uh huh
Latoria Kavulich 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by photojojo X1 yep
Leeanna Ayla 17.04.2013	X1
Kellie Myrum 17.04.2013	Livid CNTRL:R. Probably the best quality peace out there.
Hipolito Scionti 17.04.2013	I like the S2 for sound quality, size portability, available mappings and the fact I use traktor. Wouldn't swap it for any other controller on the market... maybe a VCI 400 EGE but even then that feels a bit cluttered to me. But preferably i like to use X1, Audio 10, external mixer and, but not essential, TTs... So maybe the X1 is my favorite controller
Jetta Drenzek 17.04.2013	There's no such thing. It's like saying whats the best car ever made? It all depends on the situation. Sure, for a rockstar a Rolls Royce is an amazing tool, but if you're a farmer, you're going to need a Land Rover since the Rolls Royce won't do too well on your farm land. Pick the tool you need for the job. I have my member firmly jammed in Traktor's ass hole (Although sometimes it feels like the other way around) and after picking up an F1, the S4 was, to me a logical progression, and after three weeks of use it is indeed an absolutely phenomenal controller. For me.
Tommy Thiner 17.04.2013	Originally Posted by Audeo haha by all means if you can direct me to where this thread is already started then help a brother out
Venetta Cawyer 18.04.2013

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