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How Many Songs Are You Averaging per Set? Posted on: 19.04.2013 by Meaghan Machold Hey guys, Recently I've been going over my history section in Traktor after sets/gigs. Its pretty telling about how you played. Anyways, just curious if anyone else did the same. When DJing clubs, I've noticed I average just over 100 tracks in a 4 hour time span. (Mainly top 40/house/Hip-hop). Anyone else have any results? Curious as to what you guys might be averaging. If you're not doing 4 hour sets, include your timeslot/frame along with you're average.. also what style of music you're playing.
Trista Karle 18.04.2013	Sound cloud mix you posted sounds more like what I would call pop house IMO if that is prog house then this set I did is 1:20 of prog house and 1:30 of trance http://soundcloud.com/mosesgonzales/mainstream-to-trance Sorry man hate the way prog house genre has degraded itself to cheddar nd your mix is hardly a mix sounds more like cuts and jumps that are synced and quantized with off beat grids it's not shabby but the way you came Ito this thread I expected more. Where you are mixing your off its not spot on by any means and your killing your previous tracks not in phase or creating builds to kill them. Another edit in a what I call pop house set I will drop likely 12 to 18 tracks in an hour in a trance set I average around 7mins a track so maybe 8-10 tacks usually why I do on average a 2 to 3 hour set
Emelina Paglia 18.04.2013	15 tracks with as much mashups as possible, so about 25 different songs will play per hour. 100 for 4 hours sounds right. Also depends the genre. I play progressive house, that's why as little as 15 an hour, but if I'd play top 40s, it would go to 25 an hour and less mashups.
Trista Karle 18.04.2013	I'm sorry if you use sync and train wreck you need to get back to basic I can beat match manually and later 4 tracks on top of each other. Then again what people call mash ups now are by a true mash up in my mind
Meaghan Machold 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by MYE Mdcdesign You played levels by swedish house mafia! I haven't heard that song to many times in progressive house mixes. You've got some really good tracks you don't just pick the flavour of the month songs do you. You play purely underground prog house. You don't go near the beatport top 10 do you. cant tell if ur joking or sarcastic or ur trolling........ but lets not derail this thread plz?
Bunny Sockel 18.04.2013	Mdcdesign You played levels by swedish house mafia! I haven't heard that song to many times in progressive house mixes. You've got some really good tracks you don't just pick the flavour of the month songs do you. You play purely underground prog house. You don't go near the beatport top 10 do you.
Meaghan Machold 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Hope you don't mind the criticism, but many of the transitions in the mix you linked sounded a bit off to me too. Might want to polish up the EQing and phrasing a little if it's what you're giving to promoters and clubs. can u b more specific? it sounded be pretty legit to me. post ur time stamps where u believe the transition is off (im 10 min into it while posting..) EDIT: nvm i was 6 min in. and i can tell a few parts... still not too bad, but yea def make sure u keys aren't clashing...
Alphonso Deitchman 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign EDIT: By "trainwrecking" I assume you mean it basically just sounds a bit off, rather than things going COMPLETELY tits up. Mostly it's key issues, vocals clashing for a couple of bars, or accidentally hitting the wrong cuepoint (done that a fair few times). Hope you don't mind the criticism, but many of the transitions in the mix you linked sounded a bit off to me too. Might want to polish up the EQing and phrasing a little if it's what you're giving to promoters and clubs.
Latoria Kavulich 18.04.2013	for me as long as the mixing is good, the actual mix length isn't an issue for me. i do tend to hurl abuse when the dj has missed the best bit though
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by MYE How often a evening do you train wreck? Once or twice during an hour set. Probably about the same for a 5 hour one, but for a 5 hour set I play more... traditionally, like in that Soundcloud mix. And in that scenario, it's usually just me doing something stupid like hitting Play/Pause on the wrong deck lol. EDIT: By "trainwrecking" I assume you mean it basically just sounds a bit off, rather than things going COMPLETELY tits up. Mostly it's key issues, vocals clashing for a couple of bars, or accidentally hitting the wrong cuepoint (done that a fair few times).
Bunny Sockel 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign In that case, I'm sure there's plenty of pubs and bars who have an iPod on shuffle. Considering this is DJTT - a community specifically focussed on stretching the limitations of DJing and embracing the performance element - bashing people who do live performance-style DJing might not be the smartest of moves. How often a evening do you train wreck?
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Your Youtube mix isn't representative of yor typical mixing style then? Oh Christ no, that was just a conservative one for "normal" clubs. EDIT: The Fragma one's actually pretty old, this is my conservative prog house one: https://soundcloud.com/michael-tran-...gressive-house
Alphonso Deitchman 18.04.2013	Your Youtube mix isn't representative of yor typical mixing style then?
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 He's pretty big here in the UK, surprised you've never even heard the name? Tbh I don't really pay much attention to other DJs; I'm the same with pretty much everything I do, whether it's photography or graphic design or DJing. Occasionally I'll get linked to something cool on YouTube or on here and I'll believe, "yeah that's interesting", but I don't actively seek out what OTHER people are doing... I'd rather come up with ideas on my own. Not knocking anyone else who uses others for inspiration, mind you, I just find I work better with as little external input - artistically speaking - as possible. With that said, Bass Kleph and Shiftee's performances DID persuade me to go out and buy a pad controller (Korg padKONTROL, ordered it earlier today ).
Alphonso Deitchman 18.04.2013	He's pretty big here in the UK, surprised you've never even heard the name?
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by DJBife Stop making love to kissy sell out and watch some Richie Hawtin, Carl Cox, DJ Vibe, Jeff Mills, Fatboy Slim... Had never heard of Kissy Sell Out before (well actually, my mate mentioned him earlier today ironically) but I just YouTube'd him and that's the basic principle, just without the wank genres. EDIT: Originally Posted by DJBife It's all about creating a vibe, a groove, an environment, make people have fun... what vibe can you create when you are changing songs every 20 seconds? It's not EVERY 20 seconds; I probably average 1 track every 1:30-2 minutes, but sometimes two or three tracks will be layered for up to 5 or 6 minutes, with cuepoint jumps, loops and fading between the tracks etc. When you're playing Trance or Progressive House, as long as you don't clash the vocals (except in certain cases) and keep it harmonic it works perfectly well. I wouldn't do it with any other genres, but then again I wouldn't play any other genres, so it's irrelevant.
Leon Albornoz 18.04.2013	It's all about creating a vibe, a groove, an environment, make people have fun... what vibe can you create when you are changing songs every 20 seconds?
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Sample-based music can sound great, but it does take lots of practice to make a good routine that way. Don't suppose you have any recordings you'd be willing to share? Unfortunately not I'll put together some proper performance videos when I finish my Contour mapping; need to showcase the mapping anyway so I can kill 2 birds with one stone
Leon Albornoz 18.04.2013	Stop making love to kissy sell out and watch some Richie Hawtin, Carl Cox, DJ Vibe, Jeff Mills, Fatboy Slim...
Alphonso Deitchman 18.04.2013	Sample-based music can sound great, but it does take lots of practice to make a good routine that way. Don't suppose you have any recordings you'd be willing to share?
Leon Albornoz 18.04.2013	Also , the skills of triggering loops and samples using sync is world class.
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by DJBife Nope, I just enjoy going out to a club somewhere and actually LISTENING to MUSIC. In that case, I'm sure there's plenty of pubs and bars who have an iPod on shuffle. Considering this is DJTT - a community specifically focussed on stretching the limitations of DJing and embracing the performance element - bashing people who do live performance-style DJing might not be the smartest of moves.
Leon Albornoz 18.04.2013	Nope, I just enjoy going out to a club somewhere and actually LISTENING to MUSIC.
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by DJBife You are not mixing, you are not DJ'ing, you aren't playing songs. You are playing 4 beat loops and voice samples. And turning into a mess the earing and the fun of listening to music of everyone around you, nobody likes to hear 10 or 20 seconds from a track and then off to the next one. That's how my grandmother watches TV, changing channel every fucking second 'cause she can't decide what to view. DJ's are suppose to play DANCE music. Can you get a 1500 people crowd to make a different dance every 20 seconds? I can't imagine anyone mixing 40 songs in one hour and make it sound good except for Jeff Mills (even though I don't really dig his kind of music...) This is me after listening to a few minutes of "those kind" of "DJ Sets": exploding_head_.jpg Wow, closed minded much?
Leon Albornoz 18.04.2013	Btw, I mix around 15 an hour. Tops.
Leon Albornoz 18.04.2013	You are not mixing, you are not DJ'ing, you aren't playing songs. You are playing 4 beat loops and voice samples. And turning into a mess the earing and the fun of listening to music of everyone around you, nobody likes to hear 10 or 20 seconds from a track and then off to the next one. That's how my grandmother watches TV, changing channel every fucking second 'cause she can't decide what to view. DJ's are suppose to play DANCE music. Can you get a 1500 people crowd to make a different dance every 20 seconds? I can't imagine anyone mixing 40 songs in one hour and make it sound good except for Jeff Mills (even though I don't really dig his kind of music...) This is me after listening to a few minutes of "those kind" of "DJ Sets": exploding_head_.jpg
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Is 90 (or 20??) seconds really enough time to listen to a piece of music - specifically in that genre? Mixing fast isn't difficult, but it's not necessarily productive. Is 20 seconds long enough to listen to a phrase of one track? That's all I'm doing basically, creating new tracks by combining phrases from multiple ones.
Alphonso Deitchman 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Yeah, most other DJs are pretty shocked when they see me mix. They can't really get their head around the fact that someone can mix 3 tracks in the space of less than a minute, but then again most of them still beatmatch manually. Is 90 (or 20??) seconds really enough time to listen to a piece of music - specifically in that genre? Mixing fast isn't difficult, but it's not necessarily productive.
Hank Guidas 18.04.2013	Damn. 12-14 for me haha. I'm on vinyl and CDJs tho and usually play the track out
Neville Blackinton 18.04.2013	I generally prefer to play 2-3 mins per song.
Olin Easley 18.04.2013	17-22 songs per hour depending on the time slot.
Trula Willadsen 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by LoveBeat around 24 with encore maybe in 2 hours (prog/electro house) Wow, I'm averaging that per hour with probably partly the same music. Am I doing something wrong?
Yajaira Harang 18.04.2013	I believe i'm in the average of 20 maybe more ! Really depends if you are letting them go or if you get passed really fast ! Anyway, as bedroom deejay, i'd say in surely may depend if it's on stage !
Nga Mcquarter 18.04.2013	around 24 with encore maybe in 2 hours (prog/electro house)
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 40 an hour seems very fast for prog Yeah, most other DJs are pretty shocked when they see me mix. They can't really get their head around the fact that someone can mix 3 tracks in the space of less than a minute, but then again most of them still beatmatch manually.
Latoria Kavulich 18.04.2013	not a fan of megamixes ... around 5-6 minutes per track here, regardless of style
Neil Kenig 18.04.2013	Anywhere between 20-40 for an hour.
nayit ruiz jaramillo 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by DJ G-REG Where is the history section in Traktor? I was not aware you could see what tracks you played after a set. Are they in the order you played them as well? If you want to see your set after you have closed Traktor you need to check 'Archive' which is in the Explorer Node. History is only a record of the current session and is cleared when Traktor is closed.
Alphonso Deitchman 18.04.2013	40 an hour seems very fast for prog
Doreen Schurle 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by djmetalgear what kind of music are you playing? Progressive House / Trance.
Meaghan Machold 18.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign In an hour set? Probably like 30-40, depends on the mood of the room. what kind of music are you playing?

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