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Deckadance 2 Posted on: 26.03.2013 by Doreen Schurle Okay, so this has been touched on briefly over in the CMD thread, but this seems like SUCH an important thing it really deserves its own thread, especially since not everyone here on the community has been interested/maintained their interest in the CMD line. Is it just me, or does this look like it'll completely annihilate Traktor & Serato? The FX possibilities alone are just insane... native support for EQ-specific FX (Isolate FX), multi-FX (super knobs) with pre-programmable envelopes, transport/volume warps (Gross Beats - not sure about that name tbh :-\), and a whole bunch of other things that Traktor and Serato just simply don't have atm... Plus, they appear to have caught up to the major players on a few other points like 4-deck support, spectrum waveforms, etc. I just... argh, as a controllerist they're just aren't words tbh.
Dannie Dimora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by MRG12EG the fact it can be run as a vst is a massive plus over serato/traktor if your setup requires such a need Sure, i completely agree with that, some dj's relying heavily on effects will love this feature. However, i had just too many VST crashes in my daw to be sure of the reliability of its implementation... If deckadance had some kind of a redundant signal, not routed throught VSTs, kind of like a failsafe designed to switch back to just the basic functions with no dropouts when a VST crashes (
Libbie Orion 10.04.2013	Originally Posted by JDFS Does Deckadance 2 have something like a Metronome for gridding tracks? I would like to check it out, because it can run as a VST inside Ableton. But I must be sure that I can grid my tracks just the way I grid them in Traktor, so I don't have to pitch bend. dont have to pitch bend? i really need to ask.... what?! i might be reading into it incorrectly but, what do you mean (dont have to pitch bend) wouldnt that be necessary to mix two tracks together if they are off by even .23 BPM?
Dannie Dimora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by MRG12EG the fact it can be run as a vst is a massive plus over serato/traktor if your setup requires such a need Sure, i completely agree with that, some dj's relying heavily on effects will love this feature. However, i had just too many VST crashes in my daw to be sure of the reliability of its implementation... If deckadance had some kind of a redundant signal, not routed throught VSTs, kind of like a failsafe designed to switch back to just the basic functions with no dropouts when a VST crashes (
Dannie Dimora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by Patch None of this makes any sense??? Why is that?
Shawn Vanhaitsma 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by MRG12EG the fact it can be run as a vst is a massive plus over serato/traktor if your setup requires such a need I guess im missing the point of people still using a Virtual Vinyl system at all once they need to start importing the player as a VST... to... Logic, PRotools .. maybe? If you are insane? For Ableton? Yeah ill save myself some money and forgo all the kiddy looking interface to do the same thing with more control in ableton.
Shawn Vanhaitsma 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Okay, so this has been touched on briefly over in the CMD thread, but this seems like SUCH an important thing it really deserves its own thread, especially since not everyone here on the community has been interested/maintained their interest in the CMD line. Is it just me, or does this look like it'll completely annihilate Traktor & Serato? The FX possibilities alone are just insane... native support for EQ-specific FX (Isolate FX), multi-FX (super knobs) with pre-programmable envelopes, transport/volume warps (Gross Beats - not sure about that name tbh :-\), and a whole bunch of other things that Traktor and Serato just simply don't have atm... Plus, they appear to have caught up to the major players on a few other points like 4-deck support, spectrum waveforms, etc. I just... argh, as a controllerist they're just aren't words tbh. Looks like a gem for you FX junkies who like to saturate with four hours of flange and envelopes. Otherwise I see nothing else spectacular to make me abandon my already purchased software hardware setup
Jeffrey Akinsanya 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by Polygon No, it won't annihilate serato and (most of all) traktor, as fl studio didn't annihilate the DAW scene. BUT, it will become a beginner's favorite, it will probably surpass and destroy vdj. Also, it's FUCKING AWESOME. I just hope midi integration is as tight as serato's the fact it can be run as a vst is a massive plus over serato/traktor if your setup requires such a need
Dannie Dimora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Okay, so this has been touched on briefly over in the CMD thread, but this seems like SUCH an important thing it really deserves its own thread, especially since not everyone here on the community has been interested/maintained their interest in the CMD line. Is it just me, or does this look like it'll completely annihilate Traktor & Serato? The FX possibilities alone are just insane... native support for EQ-specific FX (Isolate FX), multi-FX (super knobs) with pre-programmable envelopes, transport/volume warps (Gross Beats - not sure about that name tbh :-\), and a whole bunch of other things that Traktor and Serato just simply don't have atm... Plus, they appear to have caught up to the major players on a few other points like 4-deck support, spectrum waveforms, etc. I just... argh, as a controllerist they're just aren't words tbh. No, it won't annihilate serato and (most of all) traktor, as fl studio didn't annihilate the DAW scene. BUT, it will become a beginner's favorite, it will probably surpass and destroy vdj. Also, it's FUCKING AWESOME. I just hope midi integration is as tight as serato's
Dirk Veasman 05.04.2013	Originally Posted by SlayForMoney downloaded the beta, will try it out with my SC2000 Any luck? It seems like Denon gear doesn't like to work well with Deckadance 2. I can't get my MC3000 working very much.
Jeffrey Akinsanya 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by skulpture Having a VST host & client feature is pretty sexy! i was just going to ask if it could be run as a vst...
Horacio Stranathan 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by Synaptic Flow I got it last evening and am having a hell of a horrible time getting it to work with the Denon MC3000. The Denon ASIO isn't even accepted by Deckadance, so I had to use ASIO4ALL. Many functions on the Denon are not working, even though they are MIDI mapped properly. I can't understand why I have been able to map controllers to every other software with no problem, but Deckadance versions have given me trouble and failure to map any controller I have ever owned. Having said that, I do really enjoy the software. I loved playing with the isolator effects (added to Deckadance 2 by communication from yours truly) and I love the new look of the software. I just wish I could get everything working and didn't have to rely on ASIO4ALL. Remember this is a beta version. They know it is buggy and have outlined the early findings from the start. They cannot possibly support every controller out there. I know it is supposed to be mapped but with the MC2000, MC3000 and MC6000, that is three controllers from Denon alone. I give IL a big thumbs up for releasing this for the masses to try even in a very buggy unfinished state. Everyone has to remember that refinement will come with time. This is a trial for people to get involved and excited. I know I am ready, even though I just bought a Z2. I know I won't have any problems selling either the Z2 or CMD controllers based on the direction I decide to take.
Horacio Stranathan 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by skulpture Having a VST host & client feature is pretty sexy! I personally don't like how you have pages though; one for mixer, one for effects, etc. However its nice to have another software to talk about. Hence the reason I inquired about the pieces of kit. I did not like the page idea either. Some of the pages seem rudimentary to me, like the mixer page. This should be a no brainer, so why you would need to view it is beyond me, seeing that you have a MM-1 mixer in front of you mapped with all the features. But what I found was, with different pieces, you can control all pages. I have confirmed the following: This is from the Behringer CMD thread: http://community .djranking s.com/showthr...51607&page=107 Quality Control - Okay so let me get some things straight as for setup with deck a dance 2. Mm-1 and two pl-1's for mixer control tab. Lc-1 is for the one shot or sampling tab. Dc-1 is for the gross beat tab. Dv-1 is for the fx tab. I know they can be used for many things but do I have the general design for each piece relating to this software correct? nem0nic - That's pretty much it qc. The DV-1 covers a lot of varied use cases, but pretty much you've nailed it.
Brittny Aich 23.04.2013	i downloaded the demo, when i test sound output, it rings just fine, but no music will actually play.. anyone know what could be up?
Kecia Wnukowski 11.04.2013	I've dowloaded the demo, and take my word on it the editor system for super knobs and gross beat is just fantastic (something the 'mapping' lovers - even if it's not mapping in the real sense, I'm believeing more about people who would go deep within this kind of stuff, would appreciate). The presets are really numerous on the gross beat and even by twisting this feature to your liking there are really many to choose from....it's even a bit scary actually to see the level of automation possible. I' quite snobbish usually considering the software I use but I admit I've been impressed by those features (and the isolator fx potential is great too, it's such a nice feature). So I'm not sure I'll switch sides in the long term (as not all is about FXs) but I surely would keep an eye on Deckadance.
Basil Forshee 10.04.2013	Sorry, forgot to mention I always use Sync. And I grid everything in Traktor with the Tick on, so everything is beatgridded correctly!
Libbie Orion 10.04.2013	Originally Posted by JDFS Does Deckadance 2 have something like a Metronome for gridding tracks? I would like to check it out, because it can run as a VST inside Ableton. But I must be sure that I can grid my tracks just the way I grid them in Traktor, so I don't have to pitch bend. dont have to pitch bend? i really need to ask.... what?! i might be reading into it incorrectly but, what do you mean (dont have to pitch bend) wouldnt that be necessary to mix two tracks together if they are off by even .23 BPM?
Kellie Myrum 10.04.2013	More input on Deckadance 2 here: http://www.djranking s.com/2013/04/0...adance-2-beta/
Basil Forshee 10.04.2013	Does Deckadance 2 have something like a Metronome for gridding tracks? I would like to check it out, because it can run as a VST inside Ableton. But I must be sure that I can grid my tracks just the way I grid them in Traktor, so I don't have to pitch bend.
Libbie Orion 07.04.2013	honestly i have been playing around with DD for quite a few years now. But this year i plan on really mapping it to my S4 and other devices to see what we can do around here. I had Traktor Scratch years ago and got DD when i was working with FL Studio quite a lot. I decided i was gonig to try live remixing and live small production while mixing live. I really wanted to open a massive door to my technique in doing live shows. And this would be it. This year... i plan on going forward with that. Unfortunately it means that at home and at home only will i be using TSPro 2.6 but when im at a gig, its going to be DD all the way
Dannie Dimora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by MRG12EG the fact it can be run as a vst is a massive plus over serato/traktor if your setup requires such a need Sure, i completely agree with that, some dj's relying heavily on effects will love this feature. However, i had just too many VST crashes in my daw to be sure of the reliability of its implementation... If deckadance had some kind of a redundant signal, not routed throught VSTs, kind of like a failsafe designed to switch back to just the basic functions with no dropouts when a VST crashes (
Dannie Dimora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by Patch None of this makes any sense??? Why is that?
Shawn Vanhaitsma 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by MRG12EG the fact it can be run as a vst is a massive plus over serato/traktor if your setup requires such a need I guess im missing the point of people still using a Virtual Vinyl system at all once they need to start importing the player as a VST... to... Logic, PRotools .. maybe? If you are insane? For Ableton? Yeah ill save myself some money and forgo all the kiddy looking interface to do the same thing with more control in ableton.
Shawn Vanhaitsma 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Okay, so this has been touched on briefly over in the CMD thread, but this seems like SUCH an important thing it really deserves its own thread, especially since not everyone here on the community has been interested/maintained their interest in the CMD line. Is it just me, or does this look like it'll completely annihilate Traktor & Serato? The FX possibilities alone are just insane... native support for EQ-specific FX (Isolate FX), multi-FX (super knobs) with pre-programmable envelopes, transport/volume warps (Gross Beats - not sure about that name tbh :-\), and a whole bunch of other things that Traktor and Serato just simply don't have atm... Plus, they appear to have caught up to the major players on a few other points like 4-deck support, spectrum waveforms, etc. I just... argh, as a controllerist they're just aren't words tbh. Looks like a gem for you FX junkies who like to saturate with four hours of flange and envelopes. Otherwise I see nothing else spectacular to make me abandon my already purchased software hardware setup
Jeffrey Akinsanya 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by Polygon No, it won't annihilate serato and (most of all) traktor, as fl studio didn't annihilate the DAW scene. BUT, it will become a beginner's favorite, it will probably surpass and destroy vdj. Also, it's FUCKING AWESOME. I just hope midi integration is as tight as serato's the fact it can be run as a vst is a massive plus over serato/traktor if your setup requires such a need
Brunilda Kora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by Polygon No, it won't annihilate serato and (most of all) traktor, as fl studio didn't annihilate the DAW scene. BUT, it will become a beginner's favorite, it will probably surpass and destroy vdj. Also, it's FUCKING AWESOME. I just hope midi integration is as tight as serato's None of this makes any sense???
Dannie Dimora 06.04.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign Okay, so this has been touched on briefly over in the CMD thread, but this seems like SUCH an important thing it really deserves its own thread, especially since not everyone here on the community has been interested/maintained their interest in the CMD line. Is it just me, or does this look like it'll completely annihilate Traktor & Serato? The FX possibilities alone are just insane... native support for EQ-specific FX (Isolate FX), multi-FX (super knobs) with pre-programmable envelopes, transport/volume warps (Gross Beats - not sure about that name tbh :-\), and a whole bunch of other things that Traktor and Serato just simply don't have atm... Plus, they appear to have caught up to the major players on a few other points like 4-deck support, spectrum waveforms, etc. I just... argh, as a controllerist they're just aren't words tbh. No, it won't annihilate serato and (most of all) traktor, as fl studio didn't annihilate the DAW scene. BUT, it will become a beginner's favorite, it will probably surpass and destroy vdj. Also, it's FUCKING AWESOME. I just hope midi integration is as tight as serato's
Dirk Veasman 05.04.2013	Originally Posted by SlayForMoney downloaded the beta, will try it out with my SC2000 Any luck? It seems like Denon gear doesn't like to work well with Deckadance 2. I can't get my MC3000 working very much.
Isa Erik 26.03.2013	downloaded the beta, will try it out with my SC2000
Jeffrey Akinsanya 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by skulpture Having a VST host & client feature is pretty sexy! i was just going to ask if it could be run as a vst...
Horacio Stranathan 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by Synaptic Flow I got it last evening and am having a hell of a horrible time getting it to work with the Denon MC3000. The Denon ASIO isn't even accepted by Deckadance, so I had to use ASIO4ALL. Many functions on the Denon are not working, even though they are MIDI mapped properly. I can't understand why I have been able to map controllers to every other software with no problem, but Deckadance versions have given me trouble and failure to map any controller I have ever owned. Having said that, I do really enjoy the software. I loved playing with the isolator effects (added to Deckadance 2 by communication from yours truly) and I love the new look of the software. I just wish I could get everything working and didn't have to rely on ASIO4ALL. Remember this is a beta version. They know it is buggy and have outlined the early findings from the start. They cannot possibly support every controller out there. I know it is supposed to be mapped but with the MC2000, MC3000 and MC6000, that is three controllers from Denon alone. I give IL a big thumbs up for releasing this for the masses to try even in a very buggy unfinished state. Everyone has to remember that refinement will come with time. This is a trial for people to get involved and excited. I know I am ready, even though I just bought a Z2. I know I won't have any problems selling either the Z2 or CMD controllers based on the direction I decide to take.
Horacio Stranathan 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by skulpture Having a VST host & client feature is pretty sexy! I personally don't like how you have pages though; one for mixer, one for effects, etc. However its nice to have another software to talk about. Hence the reason I inquired about the pieces of kit. I did not like the page idea either. Some of the pages seem rudimentary to me, like the mixer page. This should be a no brainer, so why you would need to view it is beyond me, seeing that you have a MM-1 mixer in front of you mapped with all the features. But what I found was, with different pieces, you can control all pages. I have confirmed the following: This is from the Behringer CMD thread: http://community .djranking s.com/showthr...51607&page=107 Quality Control - Okay so let me get some things straight as for setup with deck a dance 2. Mm-1 and two pl-1's for mixer control tab. Lc-1 is for the one shot or sampling tab. Dc-1 is for the gross beat tab. Dv-1 is for the fx tab. I know they can be used for many things but do I have the general design for each piece relating to this software correct? nem0nic - That's pretty much it qc. The DV-1 covers a lot of varied use cases, but pretty much you've nailed it.
Dirk Veasman 26.03.2013	I got it last evening and am having a hell of a horrible time getting it to work with the Denon MC3000. The Denon ASIO isn't even accepted by Deckadance, so I had to use ASIO4ALL. Many functions on the Denon are not working, even though they are MIDI mapped properly. I can't understand why I have been able to map controllers to every other software with no problem, but Deckadance versions have given me trouble and failure to map any controller I have ever owned. Having said that, I do really enjoy the software. I loved playing with the isolator effects (added to Deckadance 2 by communication from yours truly) and I love the new look of the software. I just wish I could get everything working and didn't have to rely on ASIO4ALL.
Kellie Myrum 26.03.2013	Yep, the PL-1 comes mapped out of the box and it seems they did pretty nice job on transport controls but effect controls comes limited to only one FX rack which is controlled by upper encoder row in each of the 4 pages. This needs some remapping for sure to get full access to all 4 units. Gross is basically a preset editor for beatjumping, scratching, gating patterns. Had a bit fun with it and it's really cool... Patterns can be saved and loaded but no MIDI command for this operations. Smart knob is impressive as I thought and I guess they will add more and more effects as time goes on (again no MIDI load preset)... Lastly they should definitely work on making them more organic. Traktor is big daddy for Deckadance when it comes to FX engine and capabilities in combination with modifier system. Looking forwards to see the effect updates here. Isolate FX is pretty easy to use and MIDI supported. Definitely a DJ friendly software and not so much for a controllerist person.
Mirian Gaura 26.03.2013	Having a VST host & client feature is pretty sexy! I personally don't like how you have pages though; one for mixer, one for effects, etc. However its nice to have another software to talk about.
Hayden Raugh 26.03.2013	assuming you can use timecode there should be i guess?
Kellie Myrum 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by Volpe is it possible to mix externally? Didn't try that out but there is an option in audio window.
Margaretta Hebenstreit 26.03.2013	looks nice just trying this out now and trying to map it to my x1. is it possible to mix externally?
Gaynell Rydberg 26.03.2013	It looks a whole lot more user friendly than Traktor FX. That's for sure.
Kellie Myrum 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign You set up your envelopes beforehand (and can save/load them) and then the knob itself is MIDI mapped. Oh cool.. I'm downloading it now and will report what I found
Doreen Schurle 26.03.2013	Originally Posted by Stewe Hey guys, Are those super knobs MIDI mappable or you're setting all effects and parameters manually? You set up your envelopes beforehand (and can save/load them) and then the knob itself is MIDI mapped.

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