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Alienware for music? Posted on: 16.12.2013 by Vikki Falkenrath Is the best macbook better in anything then an Alienware Intel i7 4800/3,7 GHz/1,5Tb HDD + 80Gb SSD ? For music purposes obviously. PS: I really prefer windows than mac.
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Lina Rawie 20.12.2013	Originally Posted by frankle You started off so well with your suggestion for parts ... A great list of some of the best bits ... Then you just reminded me of how little you actually know with the suggestion of the Xonar. If someone's going to blow thousands on a decent PC for music then they should at least grab an RME that has arguably the most solid driver set available for any platform and especially for Windows. I agree with this. I built a high end PC fairly recently and finding a good soundcard took me a while, mostly because I was taking punts on cards in the
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	Originally Posted by frankle You started off so well with your suggestion for parts ... A great list of some of the best bits ... Then you just reminded me of how little you actually know with the suggestion of the Xonar. If someone's going to blow thousands on a decent PC for music then they should at least grab an RME that has arguably the most solid driver set available for any platform and especially for Windows. RME is ridiculously good
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	Originally Posted by Daniboy Well, I would buy an Alienware, so maybe 5000 dollars. How much do I need to buy the pinnacle of computer performance? Dude you could build some fucking super computer with that... I'll help you
Alphonso Deitchman 22.12.2013	Originally Posted by frankle desktop Haswell actually have a higher max TPD Max TDP is irrelevant, there have been CPUs that require much higher power for years. Of course no groundbreaking higher power requirements have been introduced. You're clearly the one who hasn't been Googling enough if you're not aware of Haswell's new low power states that are not supported by all older PSUs.
Margareta Mogilevsky 22.12.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Haswell rendered many PSUs obsolete due to its low-power energy saving features. Once again you clearly haven't googled enough ... desktop Haswell actually have a higher max TPD than the Ivy Bridge products they replaced. i7-4770K = 84W Max TPD i7-3770K = 77W Max TPD The mobile processors are where the Haswell energy saving features shine. Haswell has certainly NOT rendered many desktop PSU's obsolete. Anyhow, I'm over this pointless banter as all it's doing is needlessly increasing my post count ... although I'm sure there are others here that believe post count correlates with knowledge, lol.
Alphonso Deitchman 21.12.2013	I never said it was for music production. You only need to take one look at the STX to know that it's not. I suggested it as a general listening card as it's one of the best cards on the market for that purpose. Again, I would have the STX as an internal card, and spend the real budget on a high end 19" interface for production. Plugging and patching through breakout cables hidden behind your computer is going to be a real chore. Going external also gives extra protection from all the EM interference you get within the computer case, as well as letting you connect other computers (laptops). Originally Posted by DJSigma A good PSU can be carried over to future builds Haswell rendered many PSUs obsolete due to its low-power energy saving features.
Margareta Mogilevsky 21.12.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Edit: the Xonar STX actually has a higher SNR than RME's 9632 card for example (124 vs 113dB). Once again you prove my point that you don't "know" what you're talking about by trawling the net for some random figure that makes the item you suggested seem somewhat superior when in reality there are other reasons why the RME product smashes the shit out of Xonar for music production.
Lina Rawie 20.12.2013	Originally Posted by frankle You started off so well with your suggestion for parts ... A great list of some of the best bits ... Then you just reminded me of how little you actually know with the suggestion of the Xonar. If someone's going to blow thousands on a decent PC for music then they should at least grab an RME that has arguably the most solid driver set available for any platform and especially for Windows. I agree with this. I built a high end PC fairly recently and finding a good soundcard took me a while, mostly because I was taking punts on cards in the
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	CPU - Intel i7 4960X Motherboard - ASUS Rampage IV Black RAM - Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Silver 32GB (4x8GB) HDD - Seagate 2TB SSD - Corsair Force 240GB PSU - Enermax Platimax 1.5kw CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Case - Corsair Obsidian 900D GPU - EVGA GTX780Ti DVD Drive - Pioneer DVR-221LBK Fans, monitor, mouse or keyboard and any other peripherals are not included! Everything comes to approximately
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	Originally Posted by frankle You started off so well with your suggestion for parts ... A great list of some of the best bits ... Then you just reminded me of how little you actually know with the suggestion of the Xonar. If someone's going to blow thousands on a decent PC for music then they should at least grab an RME that has arguably the most solid driver set available for any platform and especially for Windows. RME is ridiculously good
Alycia Niederriter 06.01.2014	Originally Posted by Daniboy Well, I would buy an Alienware, so maybe 5000 dollars. How much do I need to buy the pinnacle of computer performance? Dude you could build some fucking super computer with that... I'll help you
Alphonso Deitchman 22.12.2013	Originally Posted by frankle desktop Haswell actually have a higher max TPD Max TDP is irrelevant, there have been CPUs that require much higher power for years. Of course no groundbreaking higher power requirements have been introduced. You're clearly the one who hasn't been Googling enough if you're not aware of Haswell's new low power states that are not supported by all older PSUs.
Margareta Mogilevsky 22.12.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Haswell rendered many PSUs obsolete due to its low-power energy saving features. Once again you clearly haven't googled enough ... desktop Haswell actually have a higher max TPD than the Ivy Bridge products they replaced. i7-4770K = 84W Max TPD i7-3770K = 77W Max TPD The mobile processors are where the Haswell energy saving features shine. Haswell has certainly NOT rendered many desktop PSU's obsolete. Anyhow, I'm over this pointless banter as all it's doing is needlessly increasing my post count ... although I'm sure there are others here that believe post count correlates with knowledge, lol.
Alphonso Deitchman 21.12.2013	I never said it was for music production. You only need to take one look at the STX to know that it's not. I suggested it as a general listening card as it's one of the best cards on the market for that purpose. Again, I would have the STX as an internal card, and spend the real budget on a high end 19" interface for production. Plugging and patching through breakout cables hidden behind your computer is going to be a real chore. Going external also gives extra protection from all the EM interference you get within the computer case, as well as letting you connect other computers (laptops). Originally Posted by DJSigma A good PSU can be carried over to future builds Haswell rendered many PSUs obsolete due to its low-power energy saving features.
Margareta Mogilevsky 21.12.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Edit: the Xonar STX actually has a higher SNR than RME's 9632 card for example (124 vs 113dB). Once again you prove my point that you don't "know" what you're talking about by trawling the net for some random figure that makes the item you suggested seem somewhat superior when in reality there are other reasons why the RME product smashes the shit out of Xonar for music production.
Jon Raffi 21.12.2013	quite a good suggestion it is to go to your own built s it will give more sound option as per your desires not be made by engineers for the whole market
Lina Rawie 20.12.2013	For some reason, when I edit a post on here sometimes it shows up as totally blank so I can't edit it, but just to add to the above, when I said that with RME cards you have to control the volume with the RME mixer, I should have added that of course you can still control the volume from within individual applications as well - you just can't use the Windows volume controls. Regarding PC building in general, building your own isn't always cheapest due to economies of scale, plus, a pre-build will often come with a more "user friendly" warranty. The main reason to build your own is so that you can choose the exact combination of components that you need. I don't know if there are pre-built PCs aimed at producers, but most high end pre-built rigs are aimed more at gamers, even if they are also good for other things (such as video editing). If audio is your thing, you can make do with the on-board graphics built into the CPU and then you can spend the money you would have spent on a GPU on a good sound card. Another thing to bear in mind is how quickly certain components become obsolete. A good PSU can be carried over to future builds, but a GPU isn't something you'd typically carry over if you want to stay on the cutting edge of graphics performance. Regarding GPUs specifically, you really need to consider the resolution of the monitor(s) that you'll be using, because it's easy to go way overboard with a GPU (or multiple GPUs) if you have too much cash and not enough knowledge. A single 780 TI will be fine for high end gaming at 1440p resolutions and below, which covers pretty much every user. At 1080p, there is no good reason to go above a single 780 TI outside of bragging rights with benchmarks (i.e. there is no good reason, lol). In fact, a single 780 TI is overkill at 1080p really.
Lina Rawie 20.12.2013	Originally Posted by frankle You started off so well with your suggestion for parts ... A great list of some of the best bits ... Then you just reminded me of how little you actually know with the suggestion of the Xonar. If someone's going to blow thousands on a decent PC for music then they should at least grab an RME that has arguably the most solid driver set available for any platform and especially for Windows. I agree with this. I built a high end PC fairly recently and finding a good soundcard took me a while, mostly because I was taking punts on cards in the
Alphonso Deitchman 20.12.2013	Obviously for production if you have a large budget, a 19" rackmount audio interface makes much more sense than an internal PCI card with tons of breakout cables. The Xonar is just a compact solution with decent SNR. Edit: the Xonar STX actually has a higher SNR than RME's 9632 card for example (124 vs 113dB).
Margareta Mogilevsky 20.12.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Start off with an i7 ... Maybe a high quality sound card like a Xonar Essence STX for your music too? You started off so well with your suggestion for parts ... A great list of some of the best bits ... Then you just reminded me of how little you actually know with the suggestion of the Xonar. If someone's going to blow thousands on a decent PC for music then they should at least grab an RME that has arguably the most solid driver set available for any platform and especially for Windows.
Jetta Drenzek 19.12.2013	"pinnacle" of computer performance is a subjective term. The highest benchmarks aren't from the newest CPUs, since overclocking is such a diverse subject. Arguably, the pinnacle of PC Gaming WITHOUT overclocking would be this, but as you can see from the "How much did this cost video" then you better have $10k to spend on something that powerful. The main achievement of that computer is it can run 3 monitors at 4K, which at the moment is a pipe dream even for enthusiast rigs. This time next christmas 4K TV or "UltraHD" as they're marketing it is going to be the big thing tech-wise, even though there's very few 4K source material (The majority of it is gaming!) and not only that, the Oculus Rift will be out sometime in the next year and that's set to turn the gaming world on it's head if it lives up to its reviews. All I will suggest is, if you're going for the "Home PC", that does everything, gaming, production, etc, then get yourself a massive case, a massive good quality PSU and a huge mobo, like an XL-ATX one. Water cooling and all that stuff is only for the extreme end of performance and you probably won't need it straight away. The best part about building your own PC is you don't have to blow that 5k on straight off the bat, you can do it in bits. I'd personally recommend getting an XL-ATX with a 1155 socket and getting an i5-2500k, which is still one of the best gaming processors due to it's insane overclocking capabilities, and the XL-ATX is there so you will have room for expansion with your video cards and what not. EDIT: ALSO If you're looking to get a serious production rig going, then you'll probably need to look at a RAID set up for your hard drives. Again this is something you can build up and just keep adding to, but make sure your case has enough bays. (Most large high end cases come with "cages" to store all your HDDs)
Vikki Falkenrath 19.12.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Start off with an i7 4930K or 4960X along with a Socket 2011 motherboard. If you want to game, get as many GTX 780Ti's as you want (probably 2 to begin with). You'll need a power supply to match the number of GPUs you get though. Add in some PCIe SSDs, 16/32GB RAM, and a nice monitor. Maybe a high quality sound card like a Xonar Essence STX for your music too? YEAH! Now you talking my language hahaha
Alphonso Deitchman 19.12.2013	Start off with an i7 4930K or 4960X along with a Socket 2011 motherboard. If you want to game, get as many GTX 780Ti's as you want (probably 2 to begin with). You'll need a power supply to match the number of GPUs you get though. Add in some PCIe SSDs, 16/32GB RAM, and a nice monitor. Maybe a high quality sound card like a Xonar Essence STX for your music too?
Vikki Falkenrath 19.12.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 Yes, Alienware is not exactly the pinnacle of computer performance. They are just overpriced Dells with a different logo. What is your budget? Well, I would buy an Alienware, so maybe 5000 dollars. How much do I need to buy the pinnacle of computer performance?
Alphonso Deitchman 19.12.2013	Originally Posted by Daniboy like is it possible to build a PC with better performance than an Alienware? Yes, Alienware is not exactly the pinnacle of computer performance. They are just overpriced Dells with a different logo. What is your budget?
Vikki Falkenrath 19.12.2013	Originally Posted by Sambo Building your own system is ridiculously easy. You need the following: A case A PSU A motherboard a CPU a GPU a Hard drive RAM Network card for internet(I don;t have a wired modem port, my desktop has a WLAN PCI-E card). You screw the motherboard into the case (All motherboards are made in certain sizes, micro-ATX, Mini-ATX, ATX, E-ATX. An ATX will probably be what your after. Make sure you have a case that fits it, line up the screw holes, done. Then it's pretty much just plug and play, your CPU goes in the big square that says "CPU", and then the cooler supplied with it clicks on top, your HDD slots into a HDD bay then plugs into a SATA on the MOBO, Your GPU plugs into one of the PCI slots, your RAM plugs into the RAM slots, then you just screw in your PSU and connect power to the CPU, the GPU, the HDD and the motherboard. Also plug your case fans in if your case has any, and that's it. Once you've done it a few times it's so easy you can do it with your eyes closed, everything is designed to be idiot proof. Anyways, it's a different story for a different time, a quick search on instructables will open you to a wealth of guies and if you ask on a site like Tom's Hardware they can help you find the power your need for the budget you have. Thanks! Just being curious... what are the maximum performance stuff to buy? like is it possible to build a PC with better performance than an Alienware?
Camille Scillieri 19.12.2013	Look at MSI. Lot of bang for the buck.
Alycia Niederriter 19.12.2013	Originally Posted by VagabondZ http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc post there, give them a budget and what you intend to use the computer for, they'll post you a build fancy cooling systems are not needed unless you are overclocking and/or running multiple GPUs you don't need a discrete GPU for an audio computer Alienware computers are incredibly overpriced Nice. Didn't know there was a reddit for it.

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