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NEW Razer Blade Pro 14", the best mbp alternative for djing?
Posted on: 30.05.2013 by Dannie Dimora
What do you guys believe of this? Seems like one amazing product, especially in the build quality department.
Discuss
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/r...4-inch-models/
Dannie Dimora
04.06.2013
Originally Posted by sarasin
Faaaaaaak....so you not taking shaving gear?
Nope, that's what the macbook air is for
Dannie Dimora
04.06.2013
Originally Posted by sarasin
ffs....get back to argumentating about the damn razor already!

Fools!



told ya...the lulz!
it's razer gawddammit!!!!
Dannie Dimora
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
That is all Italian FYI. Latin is used in scientific names, for example.
This, medicine makes great use of latin, bones are all named in latin.
Curiously, arteries and veins' names' etymology is all arabic, probably because of the babilonian rising period.
Just a little food for thought
Alphonso Deitchman
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
Classically trained musicians.... Almost all Dynamic marks on Notated music is in Latin.

examples: Adagio, Crescendo, Decrescendo, Un poco, staccato, legato, Moderato

you get it just saying thats all
That is all Italian FYI. Latin is used in scientific names, for example.
Arnulfo Morten
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Latin what? Haha. Who speaks Latin still?
Classically trained musicians.... Almost all Dynamic marks on Notated music is in Latin.

examples: Adagio, Crescendo, Decrescendo, Un poco, staccato, legato, Moderato

you get it just saying thats all
Dannie Dimora
12.06.2013
UPDATE

The blade 14 has been thermally imaged, and it fares MUCH better than the rmbp in this category.



This is the mbp

and this is the razer:


Dannie Dimora
04.06.2013
Originally Posted by sarasin
Faaaaaaak....so you not taking shaving gear?
Nope, that's what the macbook air is for
Lilliana Perris
04.06.2013
Faaaaaaak....so you not taking shaving gear?
Dannie Dimora
04.06.2013
Originally Posted by sarasin
ffs....get back to argumentating about the damn razor already!

Fools!



told ya...the lulz!
it's razer gawddammit!!!!
Lilliana Perris
04.06.2013
FFS....Get back to argumentating about the damn Razor already!

FOOLS!



Told ya...the LULZ!
Arnulfo Morten
03.06.2013
haha the more you know. What a throw back

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossar...al_terminology
Dannie Dimora
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
That is all Italian FYI. Latin is used in scientific names, for example.
This, medicine makes great use of latin, bones are all named in latin.
Curiously, arteries and veins' names' etymology is all arabic, probably because of the babilonian rising period.
Just a little food for thought
Arnulfo Morten
03.06.2013
^ well if you wanna knit pick... it's technically Spanish as well which all derives from Latin. good call
Alphonso Deitchman
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by P4ULSON
Classically trained musicians.... Almost all Dynamic marks on Notated music is in Latin.

examples: Adagio, Crescendo, Decrescendo, Un poco, staccato, legato, Moderato

you get it just saying thats all
That is all Italian FYI. Latin is used in scientific names, for example.
Arnulfo Morten
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Latin what? Haha. Who speaks Latin still?
Classically trained musicians.... Almost all Dynamic marks on Notated music is in Latin.

examples: Adagio, Crescendo, Decrescendo, Un poco, staccato, legato, Moderato

you get it just saying thats all
Dannie Dimora
03.06.2013
latin/italian/spanish it's all the same :P
Gaynell Rydberg
03.06.2013
Latin what? Haha. Who speaks Latin still?
Dannie Dimora
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Just trying to what now???
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
Argumentate is a new word lol.
whoops, my english seems to be lacking.
Seems like i kinda transfered a latin word toenglish
It comes from the verb "to argument", of whose existence in english i'm not even entirely sure of, basically it means, to present facts when you are having a debate about something. Basically means to prove your point with facts.
Or at least that's what i thought it meant.
Sorry for the trainwreck :P
Gaynell Rydberg
03.06.2013
Argumentate is a new word lol.
Rosita Murchie
03.06.2013
The looks are really great and the finish seems to be awesome..i hope that it turns out to be as sturdy as it looks in the pictures.
Brunilda Kora
03.06.2013
argumentate
Just trying to what now???
Dannie Dimora
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by sarasin
All the bitching and banter...

Good lulz!
Heh, not bitching, just trying to argumentate my point.


EDIT: see below for necessary explanation of nonexisting word
Lilliana Perris
03.06.2013
All the bitching and banter...

Good lulz!
Dannie Dimora
03.06.2013
Originally Posted by sarasin
This thread is funny....good laugh...thanks guys!
How so?
Lilliana Perris
03.06.2013
This thread is funny....good laugh...thanks guys!
Rolanda Clodfelder
02.06.2013
To be fair, Its probably one of the best machines in non-mac market and its a few hundred less than a Macbook Retina. But it does highlight why Mac's are high priced especially when you start to consider the extras that go into the design and specs.

Like I said, a Macbook retina, with Windows installed is probably the best Windows machine you can get right now when you consider:

Better Screen
Thunderbolt option (for more ports if needed)
Better Battery life
Nicer Keyboard and Trackpad (personal preference I suppose)
Better Fully Milled Chassis Design with case lower tolerances.
Magsafe (which has saved my ass on many occasions!)
almost 20% higher PCmarkVantage benchmarks

Anyhows, its a near perfect machine for the Anti-Apple brigade
Dannie Dimora
01.06.2013
Ok, now you made me doubt. Still it's a very heavy duty machine when you pick it up.
Gaynell Rydberg
01.06.2013
Dunno. Build quality doesn't look all too great after seeing those pictures.

Agreed on not being milled aluminum.
Romelia Stankard
01.06.2013
Originally Posted by Polygon
It's milled aluminum and even tho the lid has just a little flex, the casing itself is killer tough and flexless
That absolutely isn't milled aluminum... Despite what Razer marketing wants you to believe, pressing a sheet of aluminum into a shell shape and then milling some vent holes into isn't the same thing as a body milled out of a solid block. You can see clearly where it is cut at the vents and how it is fastened that it is thinner pressed sheet and not originally a solid block. Just marketing using the term "milled" loosely here.
Dannie Dimora
01.06.2013
Originally Posted by deevey
Haha, the Pismo and Macbook Retina had a baby :P knockoff central.

I might say yes to your statement, however:

The hardware is really only one part of the issue, they do not as a company unfortunately control the core operating system - there lies the Achilles heel, reliance on third party software and drivers.

My honest opinion is I that a Macbook Pro with OSX removed running Windows is probably the best alternative you will get to a Macbook Pro running OSX.

The Finish looks really shoddy when compared to a Macbook IMHO (just saying)

I could be wrong but it appears that its not a milled but rather pressed aluminum (which would be more flexible and prone to creakies)

http://www.engadget.com/gallery/razer-blade-2-hands-on

Just as an example below, minor details like screws off center, peely sticky product details, etc don't generally exist when you buy an apple product.





I guess after a few years of no ugly vent holes, no creaky casings I'd find it very difficult to go back to another brand and not feel like I just lost the lottery.

Anyhoo one mans vinegar is another mans wine.

Its an alternative I guess if you really don't like Apple products and want something that you feel is just as good - and theres plenty of people like that out there.

Lets not even go near the resale price shall we :P
It's milled aluminum and even tho the lid has just a little flex, the casing itself is killer tough and flexless
Romelia Stankard
31.05.2013
^yeah fit and finish looks about as expected from razer (or most non- apple laptop brands). You can stamp sheet aluminum into the shape of a macbook but that doesn't mean it's going to have the rigidity and quality fit and finish of a macbook machine milled out of a solid block of aluminum.

another big reason I could never own a non-apple laptop is the magnetic power adapter. Usually the power socket where the cord connects is a major weak point on laptops and will easily break if it falls from a short distance on the connector or the cord gets yanked out at a bad angle. I've seen tons of laptops damaged like that, and so long as apple defends their patent on the magsafe power adapter you won't see other laptops with anything like that.
Rolanda Clodfelder
31.05.2013
This is why i see the blade as a valid alternative to a mbp for people who just don't like the osx ambient, because thanks to having only a couple of products, all the R&D can go straight into optimizing the hell outta them, which is exactly what apple is doing.

And from this comes the whole point of why i started this thread, will the blade be a valid alternative to the mbp?
Haha, the Pismo and Macbook Retina had a baby :P knockoff central.

I might say yes to your statement, however:

The hardware is really only one part of the issue, they do not as a company unfortunately control the core operating system - there lies the Achilles heel, reliance on third party software and drivers.

My honest opinion is I that a Macbook Pro with OSX removed running Windows is probably the best alternative you will get to a Macbook Pro running OSX.

The Finish looks really shoddy when compared to a Macbook IMHO (just saying)

I could be wrong but it appears that its not a milled but rather pressed aluminum (which would be more flexible and prone to creakies)

http://www.engadget.com/gallery/razer-blade-2-hands-on

Just as an example below, minor details like screws off center, peely sticky product details, etc don't generally exist when you buy an apple product.





I guess after a few years of no ugly vent holes, no creaky casings I'd find it very difficult to go back to another brand and not feel like I just lost the lottery.

Anyhoo one mans vinegar is another mans wine.

Its an alternative I guess if you really don't like Apple products and want something that you feel is just as good - and theres plenty of people like that out there.

Lets not even go near the resale price shall we :P
Alphonso Deitchman
31.05.2013
Nice to see that there are other Windows users here who can appreciate the benefits of a Mac. 99% of laptops out there are cheap plastic and budget-oriented, and only a handful of high end machines have decent build quality.

Macs are not used for DJing because of the logo. And there's absolutely no reason to criticise someone wanting to buy a cheaper used Macbook.
Dannie Dimora
31.05.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I don't really agree with that 100%

You see a lot of us here use Windows without problems, but every single newbie we get here asking what laptop they should get immediately flock to MBP just because that's what they see. They're buying blind.

Windows are just as sturdy as Macs as well. The only time I've had a laptop break on me is when I buy a budget 400 dollar Dell or something of the sort. All the other laptops are solid. I'd also take a Windows desktop over an Apple desktop any day.
I know, i use windows too. But tbh i've experienced more crashes on the windows partition of my production rig than on the mac one (hackintosh, did it just for fun)

I don't know about your experiences, i remember buying a quosmio (as a family notebook) for about 1600€ and it failing 2 years and 5 months after we bought it. And, even though i've only borrowed a MBA for a couple months once, i have only heard praises towards mbps' sturdiness.

I know my asus laptop ( a frickin' good one, qc i7, 8gb, 750gb 7200rpm and 2gb nvidia gt540m) never worked great with seratodj even when i bought a completely new hdd and installed a completely fresh copy of w7 with no bloatware on. It's always been choppy, and i see people running it on c2d mbps without a hiccup. So there is something to this.
Gaynell Rydberg
31.05.2013
I don't really agree with that 100%

You see a lot of us here use Windows without problems, but every single newbie we get here asking what laptop they should get immediately flock to MBP just because that's what they see. They're buying blind.

Windows are just as sturdy as Macs as well. The only time I've had a laptop break on me is when I buy a budget 400 dollar Dell or something of the sort. All the other laptops are solid. I'd also take a Windows desktop over an Apple desktop any day.
Dannie Dimora
31.05.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
That's part of my point :P A lot of the people who buy Macs are buying them just for status. They're glorified web surfers.
Sure they are, but you still mostly see macs on dj tables why? Not because of their status symbol (well, maybe for someone), but because they are sturdy, their hw/sw integration is impeccable, and they just work.

What razer is doing by not putting out millions of different laptops a myriad of hardware configs is standardizing their ecosystem, such as apple did with theirs.
This is why i see the blade as a valid alternative to a mbp for people who just don't like the osx ambient, because thanks to having only a couple of products, all the R&D can go straight into optimizing the hell outta them, which is exactly what apple is doing.

And from this comes the whole point of why i started this thread, will the blade be a valid alternative to the mbp?
Gaynell Rydberg
31.05.2013
Originally Posted by Polygon
Just to clarify. I'm not buying anything The retina 15" baseline model starts at 300 dollars more than the blade, so overpaying is relative. I know a lot of "hip" guys who bought their top-of-the-line-overspecced mbp just to update their 20-follower blog and to browse facebook. So this whole "status" thing is already present even without the blade
That's part of my point :P A lot of the people who buy Macs are buying them just for status. They're glorified web surfers.
Dannie Dimora
31.05.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
The Blade is lower resolution than then non-retina 15" with BTO screen, so you can't really compare it to the Retina.
But has a better gpu. None of those things is strictly needed to dj, is it?
How not? Can you compare the regular mbp and the rmbp even tho the rmbp has no optical drive and a higher res screen? 'Course you can!
Alphonso Deitchman
31.05.2013
The Blade is lower resolution than then non-retina 15" with BTO screen, so you can't really compare it to the Retina.
Dannie Dimora
31.05.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
I dunno. IMO, you're just blowing a ton of money on a laptop that has specs beyond what you need simply for 'status', to have something as a cool fashion accessory rather than function.

I don't believe you're going to see a lot of these Razer Blades except for people who don't know what they're buying and people who have too much money.
Just to clarify. I'm not buying anything The retina 15" baseline model starts at 300 dollars more than the blade, so overpaying is relative. I know a lot of "hip" guys who bought their top-of-the-line-overspecced mbp just to update their 20-follower blog and to browse facebook. So this whole "status" thing is already present even without the blade

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