Opinions on FX?

I blame the big orange button on the djm600 and excessive red wine consumption

I cannot believe of a single instance that a flanger sounds good on a track.

It is a guitar effect that should be used quite dry or with some added chorus to fatten the thinned out flanger. It is a beautiful guitar effect.

It sounds awful used by a DJ. (imho).

I blame the big orange button on the djm600 and excessive red wine consumption

Just catching up with this thread, I'm definitely in the 12-15 tracks an hour camp with subtle, careful use of FX throughout. I'm mainly working the EQ's and a little bit of filtering, trying to be as smooth as possible in the transition, getting the phrasing spot on etc etc.

My main style is Soulful & Deep House, along with some Breaks. The Soulful/Deep House, in the main, would sound awful and disjointed if you were mixing in/out every minute or so, it would just not flow at all. As has been said, producers have spent a long time putting these tracks together, to sound like they do for a reason; IMHO I tend to use this as a basis and work the tracks together in different ways whilst maintaining the general intention of the producer.

Of course it is very much each to his own and a lot depends on the genre of music, club setting etc, but to say it's lazy for not using more than 30 tracks in an hour is IMHO is ignorant. Some of the 10 mins mixes I've viewed/listened to, tearing through the tracks, lots of fx can sound good and done well I can fully appreciate. But I wouldn't want to be subjected to that for 6 hours on on evening out at a darkened, underground club. For me I want to become lost in the groove, I'm not interested in seeing the DJ raised up high, big flashing lights and fist pumping and all the showy side at the often detriment to the music itself.

Again we all have our own opinions and views and it's good we do, it would be dull otherwise, however my experience over the years of the underground scene in the UK, many definitely prefer the low key, lost in the music as opposed to these 'EDM' shows which have cropped up in the last few years.

We also just differ opinion. What you refer to mixing, to what I am questioning you on do not go hand in hand to me. You can mix any style you want.. But 12 songs.. its not really about you its about the crowd isnt it? There also isnt much "mixing" going on in an hour and 12 songs but again to each their own.

I just, wasnt sure based on all the past posts in this thread if you were being sarcastic or not. We dont have to like each others mixing style, but I surely am going to express what I may dislike :P Thats the beauty of a community or.. speech in general.

That doesn't ACTUALLY answer the question though does it?

That long wait between tracks is EXACTLY the reason why I usually dislike mixing Top 40 stuff (mostly R&B and Indie, at least with Dance and Dubwank you can do dropmixes and mashups etc).

... but what do you do for the 8-10 minutes that they're playing? Browse Facebook? Play Freecell? Fist pump?

I can't tell if you are trolling or not. What purpose do you serve as a DJ playing 12 tracks. Thats one CD of fully played songs. Im with MDC on this one. Proper cue point usage, and mixing technique, you can provide the full energy and essence, plus build up and drops if you want within 2 to 3 minutes, using the other part of the song to seamlessly transition.

There is no way Id ask you to come play at my club again if thats what you provided my patrons for an hour. Of course the UK and US are different. Its hard enough to not find an open format bottle service club now a days anyways.

he's letting the tunes express themselves, instead of stangling them

Seriously, 12 tracks at 8-10 minutes each allows for a decent amount of mixing within an hour.

Just because i mix differently to you, I'm in the wrong? I use loops and efx sparingly to. But hey why should I justify myself. If we all mixed the same, then what?

More the better! Layer em up, add some air horn to let everyone know this is a remix, drop in some serious flanger as well if you really wanna get the party bouncing.

On popular songs i believe they're good because it shows you're doing something but not after that. What do you believe?