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S4 price cut... Something's coming
Posted on: 20.06.2013 by Hipolito Scionti
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Lashawn Maycock
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by KieranSmith
How about this... It's the end of the financial year and every single company is trying to sell as much stock as they possibly can before the start of the new financial year.
Nah I much prefer the whole Holly and her rack...

Anyway saw an impromptu set from a band headlining the BBC introducing stage, in a local pub.... This of many, is why Glastonbury is the greatest of all time fests
Maile Dekerlegand
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
A better jog wheel setup with something giving you an idea of needlpoint (similar to the ddj sx), lcd number display for loops, better flux integration, multi color cue point buttons, split cue, built in mixer with phono preamps and rca inputs for each channel, seperate mic input, innofader compatability (without modification), replaceable channel faders, a smooth surface (similar to the z1), and a riser to bring it up to standard level (same height as cdj, djm, and technics) are all features Id have to see before purchasing a standalone controller from NI.
+1

basically the vci380 for traktor, other than the riser it has almost everything you mentioned
Jeffrey Akinsanya
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by backtothefront

Just seen it on the 'Holly Willoughby displaying her shelving show'....

hehehe
Doreen Schurle
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
I said needlepoint indicators and I dont like staring at my laptop screen... especially while scratching. It is way more ergonomic to have a point near your hands to look at when working with your hands.
I assume you meant the screen in the center of CDJ platters; in which case that's a simulation of the sticker, not "needle point" - the needle point is the track stripe on the main LCD, which you also have in Traktor.
Emelina Chillson
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
You don't need sticker indicators when you've got waveforms dude lol.
I said needlepoint indicators and I dont like staring at my laptop screen... especially while scratching. It is way more ergonomic to have a point near your hands to look at when working with your hands.
Valeri Millstein
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
It's controllerism. Way to use controller techniques to improve your performance. I'd like more people that talk about their Traktor techniques generally.
As cool as it can be when used in a traditional DJing environment stuff can get... bad. Thats why in some ways the Ean Goldenish people are kind of shunned with their S4s.
Doreen Schurle
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
A better jog wheel setup with something giving you an idea of needlpoint (similar to the ddj sx), lcd number display for loops, better flux integration, multi color cue point buttons, split cue, built in mixer with phono preamps and rca inputs for each channel, seperate mic input, innofader compatability (without modification), replaceable channel faders, a smooth surface (similar to the z1), and a riser to bring it up to standard level (same height as cdj, djm, and technics) are all features Id have to see before purchasing a standalone controller from NI.
You don't need sticker indicators when you've got waveforms dude lol.
Kellie Myrum
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by 0Notice
Moldover type stuff is in my opinion something different than DJing.
It's controllerism. Way to use controller techniques to improve your performance. I'd like more people that talk about their Traktor techniques generally.
Valeri Millstein
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
6 decks is easy. Check out Tom Cosm or Moldover. Both use Ableton Live and easily run between 4 and 20 channels.,,
Moldover type stuff is in my opinion something different than DJing.
Armanda Yankauskas
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
6 decks is easy. Check out Tom Cosm or Moldover. Both use Ableton Live and easily run between 4 and 20 channels.,,

But comparing ableton to traktor? That a little much don't ya believe? Actually spinning six decks the "traditional" way in traktor just reallgy makes no sense to me... I understand how with the remix decks you technically have 16 decks but you're not beat matching/tempo matching them the same and I'm not here trying to start up that age old debate bout sync and blah blah blah. But what I'm saying is sometimes really believe things through. 6 decks that are all capable of being remix decks, there wouldn't even be enough room on the screen in traktor. If yiu can do it more power to you but I doubt you'd have something worth playing or sharing of you need that much.
Doreen Schurle
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
The 2nd two aren't features to be added, they are merely restrictions you want lifted.
I don't see how the second is a restriction? There's no functionality in the software whatsoever for two separate PFL channels...
Lashawn Maycock
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by KieranSmith
How about this... It's the end of the financial year and every single company is trying to sell as much stock as they possibly can before the start of the new financial year.
Nah I much prefer the whole Holly and her rack...

Anyway saw an impromptu set from a band headlining the BBC introducing stage, in a local pub.... This of many, is why Glastonbury is the greatest of all time fests
Johanna Eggerson
22.06.2013
How about this... It's the end of the financial year and every single company is trying to sell as much stock as they possibly can before the start of the new financial year.
Maile Dekerlegand
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
A better jog wheel setup with something giving you an idea of needlpoint (similar to the ddj sx), lcd number display for loops, better flux integration, multi color cue point buttons, split cue, built in mixer with phono preamps and rca inputs for each channel, seperate mic input, innofader compatability (without modification), replaceable channel faders, a smooth surface (similar to the z1), and a riser to bring it up to standard level (same height as cdj, djm, and technics) are all features Id have to see before purchasing a standalone controller from NI.
+1

basically the vci380 for traktor, other than the riser it has almost everything you mentioned
Jeffrey Akinsanya
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by backtothefront

Just seen it on the 'Holly Willoughby displaying her shelving show'....

hehehe
Lashawn Maycock
22.06.2013
STOP PRESS!!! Mystery Solved!!!!

.... William (full stop) I (full stop) Am is using one...

Just seen it on the 'Holly Willoughby displaying her shelving show'....

hehehe
Emelina Chillson
22.06.2013
which i also dont want to look at my screen.
Doreen Schurle
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
I said needlepoint indicators and I dont like staring at my laptop screen... especially while scratching. It is way more ergonomic to have a point near your hands to look at when working with your hands.
I assume you meant the screen in the center of CDJ platters; in which case that's a simulation of the sticker, not "needle point" - the needle point is the track stripe on the main LCD, which you also have in Traktor.
Emelina Chillson
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
You don't need sticker indicators when you've got waveforms dude lol.
I said needlepoint indicators and I dont like staring at my laptop screen... especially while scratching. It is way more ergonomic to have a point near your hands to look at when working with your hands.
Valeri Millstein
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
It's controllerism. Way to use controller techniques to improve your performance. I'd like more people that talk about their Traktor techniques generally.
As cool as it can be when used in a traditional DJing environment stuff can get... bad. Thats why in some ways the Ean Goldenish people are kind of shunned with their S4s.
Doreen Schurle
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
A better jog wheel setup with something giving you an idea of needlpoint (similar to the ddj sx), lcd number display for loops, better flux integration, multi color cue point buttons, split cue, built in mixer with phono preamps and rca inputs for each channel, seperate mic input, innofader compatability (without modification), replaceable channel faders, a smooth surface (similar to the z1), and a riser to bring it up to standard level (same height as cdj, djm, and technics) are all features Id have to see before purchasing a standalone controller from NI.
You don't need sticker indicators when you've got waveforms dude lol.
Kellie Myrum
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by 0Notice
Moldover type stuff is in my opinion something different than DJing.
It's controllerism. Way to use controller techniques to improve your performance. I'd like more people that talk about their Traktor techniques generally.
Valeri Millstein
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
6 decks is easy. Check out Tom Cosm or Moldover. Both use Ableton Live and easily run between 4 and 20 channels.,,
Moldover type stuff is in my opinion something different than DJing.
Emelina Chillson
21.06.2013
A better jog wheel setup with something giving you an idea of needlpoint (similar to the ddj sx), lcd number display for loops, better flux integration, multi color cue point buttons, split cue, built in mixer with phono preamps and rca inputs for each channel, seperate mic input, innofader compatability (without modification), replaceable channel faders, a smooth surface (similar to the z1), and a riser to bring it up to standard level (same height as cdj, djm, and technics) are all features Id have to see before purchasing a standalone controller from NI.
Kellie Myrum
21.06.2013
I know that Chris Liebing and Speedy J would love to see more than four decks in Traktor
Armanda Yankauskas
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
6 decks is easy. Check out Tom Cosm or Moldover. Both use Ableton Live and easily run between 4 and 20 channels.,,

But comparing ableton to traktor? That a little much don't ya believe? Actually spinning six decks the "traditional" way in traktor just reallgy makes no sense to me... I understand how with the remix decks you technically have 16 decks but you're not beat matching/tempo matching them the same and I'm not here trying to start up that age old debate bout sync and blah blah blah. But what I'm saying is sometimes really believe things through. 6 decks that are all capable of being remix decks, there wouldn't even be enough room on the screen in traktor. If yiu can do it more power to you but I doubt you'd have something worth playing or sharing of you need that much.
Alphonso Deitchman
21.06.2013
Sorry, didn't read that properly at all. You could easily do that with 2 mixers in external mode.
Doreen Schurle
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
The 2nd two aren't features to be added, they are merely restrictions you want lifted.
I don't see how the second is a restriction? There's no functionality in the software whatsoever for two separate PFL channels...
Kellie Myrum
21.06.2013
Hey makar, you had like 1,700 post the other day.. Holy shit dude
Alphonso Deitchman
21.06.2013
The 2nd two aren't features to be added, they are merely restrictions you want lifted.
Doreen Schurle
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
I'd care for TP3 with more damn modifiers and new FX engine. I don't expect much from new controllers anyways - hopefully the better build and mapping support.
Motorized platter support, control of remix decks with ANY controller, and multiple simultaneous PFL support (ie, with an Audio 6 you could output your master and have TWO people cueing separate decks). That's what I want.
Kellie Myrum
21.06.2013
I'd care for TP3 with more damn modifiers and new FX engine. I don't expect much from new controllers anyways - hopefully the better build and mapping support.
Sonja Roybal
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
6 decks is easy. Check out Tom Cosm or Moldover. Both use Ableton Live and easily run between 4 and 20 channels.,,
Are they playing their own stuff though? That's the difference. Doing a live show of your own work is great. Playing 6 decks of other people's work is kind of lame IMO, of course.
Brunilda Kora
21.06.2013
And each Remix Deck is essentially 4 decks/channels, so Traktor is capable of running 16 decks...

Right?
Brunilda Kora
21.06.2013
6 decks is easy. Check out Tom Cosm or Moldover. Both use Ableton Live and easily run between 4 and 20 channels.,,
Tonita Mujanovic
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by JesusJuice
6decks? Wouldn't even be possible with traktor mah dude.... and 4decks regularly running is enough to keep a dj on his toesgenerally speaking. Now adding 2more additional remix decks? That's just absurd IMO...
it would be for a big routine, 2 with actual vinyl, 2 with timecode, and 2 remix decks. iunno, i believe itd be neat

Originally Posted by b1sh0p
If you need 6 decks to make music sound good, you're playing some boring ass tunes.
it would be for a large scratch routine, not for shows lol, and the way i play is i use little pieces of multiple songs to create a new song, and as DJBife said richie hawtin, dubfire, and many others use 4 decks in traktor + maschine + external effects.
Sonja Roybal
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
That's the point of multiple decks. To add and subtract multiple sounds to create a new song..
There's a drum and bass producer named Paradox whose live set is him running his own stems off a 20 year old Amiga and a tracker. He plays the stems and talks shit about DJ's and other producers the whole time. It's pretty hilarious. If he wasn't such a good producer, I'd hate him.
Doreen Schurle
21.06.2013
I'll wager they'll call their single platter controller the "S1", not the "P1", purely to keep with current naming conventions.
Milda Poucher
21.06.2013
Oh god damn it. I wanted to sell my S4 and flight case and was at least hoping for something in the
Marcelina Hanaway
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by b1sh0p
If you need 6 decks to make music sound good, you're playing some boring ass tunes.
Amen to that!

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